After I did the Ambassador Korlack sidequest on ME3, I thought of something... Did Cerberus use Shepard and Co. as PR to gain a better image?
It was interesting seeing an anti-Human volus from ME1 helping Cerberus in 3, albeit any interaction with Korlack is never mentioned in this side quest... So I thought that your brief interaction with Cerberus in 1 is that of a nutty/creepy group with bizarre interests and you go from that to 2, it's very Cerberus focused. Opinion is very negative on Cerberus from anyone who knows of you from 1 (Garrus, Tali, etc.) . So it makes me wonder if this was the Illusive Man's idea. Use a guy with a good reputation (whether you are Renegade/Paragon, seems to make NO difference) to better the view of their shady organization.
The answer's kinda obvious, but I figured it would be an interesting discussion...
Thought of something (References/Spoilers to 1, 2 and 3 inside).
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, sept. 15 2012 08:11
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Posté 16 septembre 2012 - 12:31
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After replays, I think Tim really wanted to stop the collectors and believed shepard was the only one to do it. In a way, he treats shepard like his child using tough love. For a while, I thought he was just a manipulative tool, but in retrospect, I see it as him really wanting to stop the collectors and save the humans and really seeing that Shepard was worth saving having propelled humanity in a way noone had in the 26 years since they joined the rest of the galaxy.
It's easy to discount Tim as how you have, especially if you've played ME3, but I think at the end of ME2 there's a turning point where he becomes darker as he sees this amazing opportunity to take control of that base and that partially built reaper and use it to HIS advantage. He was always about power, having it and using it. That's why he was so great with information which is pointed out in questions you ask him in those meetings. He's a power and control man. It was always there, but I think his motives with shepard were mainly just with a sidebar of using shepard to gain power and control long term. I don't think he thought shepard would leave him or betray him. I think he also felt betrayed like a father because he gave shepard life and tried to mentor shepard in small ways through the game in their few chats.
Plus, there's Jack's mission. The first thing you hear is how he wanted operational laws, implying he wanted it to be run well and not how it was whereas it seemed to have gone rogue. I've wondered if Jack's evolution into the master biotic she became from that rogue facility which he did not want to be that way led him to what we saw in ME1 because Jack was much much earlier, and Jack would have not evolved the way she did had it not been for the extreme treatment, but jack was the goal in a way, what Tim wanted for humanity, that kind of superior power to compete with asari and turians (guessing here, but humanity was small and seemed inferior compared to other races). So I think Jack's mission and the very first recording you hear are very telling about the evolution of Tim and of cerberus and how it came to be what it was in ME1 and how he lost it in ME2 at the end to become what he was in ME3. I think even the kai leng bit ties in with this theory I have based on timelines between jack's development and kai's evolution. A path was chosen because it gave more power and control. Jack was really the key to this path but not by Tim's doing.
It's easy to discount Tim as how you have, especially if you've played ME3, but I think at the end of ME2 there's a turning point where he becomes darker as he sees this amazing opportunity to take control of that base and that partially built reaper and use it to HIS advantage. He was always about power, having it and using it. That's why he was so great with information which is pointed out in questions you ask him in those meetings. He's a power and control man. It was always there, but I think his motives with shepard were mainly just with a sidebar of using shepard to gain power and control long term. I don't think he thought shepard would leave him or betray him. I think he also felt betrayed like a father because he gave shepard life and tried to mentor shepard in small ways through the game in their few chats.
Plus, there's Jack's mission. The first thing you hear is how he wanted operational laws, implying he wanted it to be run well and not how it was whereas it seemed to have gone rogue. I've wondered if Jack's evolution into the master biotic she became from that rogue facility which he did not want to be that way led him to what we saw in ME1 because Jack was much much earlier, and Jack would have not evolved the way she did had it not been for the extreme treatment, but jack was the goal in a way, what Tim wanted for humanity, that kind of superior power to compete with asari and turians (guessing here, but humanity was small and seemed inferior compared to other races). So I think Jack's mission and the very first recording you hear are very telling about the evolution of Tim and of cerberus and how it came to be what it was in ME1 and how he lost it in ME2 at the end to become what he was in ME3. I think even the kai leng bit ties in with this theory I have based on timelines between jack's development and kai's evolution. A path was chosen because it gave more power and control. Jack was really the key to this path but not by Tim's doing.
