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SNAKEATEN wrote...

Can't say I blame him. This s*** has been going on since day one, even in a professional environment there is only so much crap you can take...


Since day one because they release a shoddy product, if they hadn't then it wouldn't have been going on...simples.

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Show me where that guy abused any member of staff?


Maybe not in that post, but it has happened a lot since the ending debacle started.

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Conventional victory should be possible as long as you have aquired the assets to do so.


No.


Yes.  Unfortunately, there are not enough assets to acquire in the entire galaxy.  Conventional victory requires enlisting help from other galaxies, and by the time help would arrive, it would be too late (assuming they would even be inclined to help).

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I guess what I'm saying is, "what type of content do you think SHOULD be in the DLC?"


Next should be the mission to retake Omega and an option to romance Aria :wub:

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We've done enough now, let's drop it, as frankly.. most guys in the Mass Effect team have worked their arses off.

If we give up, we give them permission to not work on better endings. The leadership is probably hoping that the fanbase runs out of steam soon. I dearly hope this is not the case; we should not allow ourselves to do so.

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Show me where that guy abused any member of staff?


Maybe not in that post, but it has happened a lot since the ending started.


So because OTHER people were rude to him he has the right to be rude to someone who wasn't?

Makes perfect sense.....

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Can you really blame him? Really? Have you ever experienced this amount of hate for 6 months by hundreds (maybe thousands) of people?

On DLC: I completely agree with it. As much as we, as consumers, would like, $60 is not enough to ensure the continued survival and evolution of AAA titles. They are expensive.

DLC provides a higher profit margin to the developer. I don't agree with weapon packs or armor packs, but actual content such as Leviathan? Yep, that's okay in my book.

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Jamie9 wrote...

Can you really blame him? Really? Have you ever experienced this amount of hate for 6 months by hundreds (maybe thousands) of people?

On DLC: I completely agree with it. As much as we, as consumers, would like, $60 is not enough to ensure the continued survival and evolution of AAA titles. They are expensive.



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Hexley UK wrote...

SNAKEATEN wrote...

Can't say I blame him. This s*** has been going on since day one, even in a professional environment there is only so much crap you can take...


Since day one because they release a shoddy product, if they hadn't then it wouldn't have been going on...simples.


Sure, I get it, some people don't really like ME3, but that doesn't make it ok to bully the developers for it. Not in the slightest.

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Well nobody can call Mdoggy1214 a blind hater after this one. But i'm completely on Gamble's side. The game has been out for about 6-7 months now, any DLC at this point is obviously just an expansion of the game and not cut content. That twitter guy needs to get his head outta his ***.

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So because OTHER people were rude to him he has the right to be rude to someone who wasn't?

Makes perfect sense.....


I'd like to see some of these fans work in customer service for years and see what it's like. It's not as easy as it sounds. You can't please people 100% of the time. There's always someone who's going to not be 100% satisfied with your product, but some people seem to have this idea that every single person who plays this game must be satisfied. It doesn't work that way unfortunately.

Aside from the zero tolerance thing, some companies have the right to refuse service and say that they don't want your business anymore. In terms of "service", that would include creating content for the people who play this game.

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Jamie9 wrote...

Can you really blame him? Really? Have you ever experienced this amount of hate for 6 months by hundreds (maybe thousands) of people?

On DLC: I completely agree with it. As much as we, as consumers, would like, $60 is not enough to ensure the continued survival and evolution of AAA titles. They are expensive.

DLC provides a higher profit margin to the developer. I don't agree with weapon packs or armor packs, but actual content such as Leviathan? Yep, that's okay in my book.

Were I him, I'd either be groveling in apology openly, or hiding while I tried to find a way to make said apology known without violating my employment clause, depending on how much I actually wanted to keep my job.

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Jamie9 wrote...

Can you really blame him? Really? Have you ever experienced this amount of hate for 6 months by hundreds (maybe thousands) of people?

On DLC: I completely agree with it. As much as we, as consumers, would like, $60 is not enough to ensure the continued survival and evolution of AAA titles. They are expensive.

DLC provides a higher profit margin to the developer. I don't agree with weapon packs or armor packs, but actual content such as Leviathan? Yep, that's okay in my book.


Yes I can really blame him...it's not professional.

No I have not ever experienced this amount of hate for 6 months by (more like hundreds of thousands of people), because I have never lied out my ass to said people and practically spat in their faces and called them stupid and whiny when they called me on it.

Your take on DLC is hilarious and massively ill informed...EA love people like you.

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Hexley UK wrote...

N7Gold wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

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It surprises me how some people these days act like spoiled brats. I've let my wounds heal up.


It surprises me how people think what they have been given was good quality, value for money and represents what the marketing promised in any way. Spoiled? Maybe if ME3 was all it could have been and they still complained maybe.


I don't think that, I know there are plot holes in the story, but BioWare is trying to fix that with DLCs and what do we call them? "Money hungry leeches" and crap like that. For now, I'll reserve judgement until they stop delivering DLCs for single player, because based on what I'vel earned in the Leviathan DLC, the star kid's purpose for its creators may be to get synthetics to be vulnerable to indoctrination like organics, which is why synthethis is the ideal solution, so the Leviathans can force organics and synthetics to pay tribute to their so-called greatness as the first apex race, otherwise peace with quarians and geth would bevery significant.


I'm sorry but attempting to fix their crappy ending with further crap that we have to PAY for does not make me feel any better.


You don't get it. They are probably foreshadowing the villains in Mass Effect 3's sequels. If you really feel so bitter to the Mass Effect series, then I suggest giving up on Mass Effect and leaving BSN, there's nothing left worth staying.


Giving up on ME? Done and done.

Leaving BSN? Hell no...I enjoy coming here and reminding BiowEAre and others how much FAIL they have become.

As for nothing left worth saying, I disagree. BW's epic failure deserves to be pointed out again and again and again because they still don't seem to get it.

It saddens me in a way to say this because at one point not to long ago I was one of their biggest fans and then EA happened.


Don't you think they get the point and are doing everything they can to fix it?  We're like the Salarians letting the Krogan suffer with the genophage. BioWare has suffered enough. We should re-evaluate what we expect from them, I mean this whole thing started because the Reapers purpose is confusing, they claim to be trying to achieve galactic peace between organics and synthetics, but with the harvesting cycle, it is all confusing because the original cut didn't clarify anything, and that was the start of our fan rage. But the Leviathan DLC gave me new theories that make me believe that peace between organics and synthetics is a convenient lie for the star kid and Leviathans. With the EC DLC, when the star kid mentioned its creators, I thought its creators were galactic peacekeepers/peacemakers, but when I played the Leviathan DLC, I found out that's not who they are, they're an arrogant race who see everyone and everything in the galaxy as tools. With the Retake Omega DLC coming, who knows what kinds of information that DLC will have? I used to be upset at BioWare like you, for good reasons, but I'm not going to let the past cloud my judgement on them forever. BioWare is doing something about this, and I plan on evaluating their actions before goning on a fan rage again. I don't care if they change the endings or not, I just want everything to make sense.

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I do think that BW is creating DLCs just now, but if these DLCs are required to make sense of the story and ending then it *feels* like a quarter of the content has been ripped from the story. The Leviathan DLC is a good example. It ends several speculations about the role of the catalyst and its creators, but it still leaves a lot hidden and even raises more questions. If ME3 is supposed to be the ending of a trilogy then I want that to end with the third part. I want to know what happened to Shepard and his/her crew and not be dependent on merchandise and DLCs. I've waited years for that. I don't need a commercial insult after years of waiting. Mr Gamble can jump up and down, but that's the impression I have. It's not a trilogy, it's a trollogy.

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Hexley UK wrote...

SNAKEATEN wrote...

Can't say I blame him. This s*** has been going on since day one, even in a professional environment there is only so much crap you can take...


Since day one because they release a shoddy product, if they hadn't then it wouldn't have been going on...simples.


I challenge this statement, honestly.

The whole controversy comes for the last 15 minutes of the game. As you are well aware the game itself is atleast 30+ hours long. To say that the entire game is of low quality is simply not true. I don't care how absurdly high your standards are either.

If everyone here truly believed that ME3 is a shoddy product then they wouldn't even be here. Last time I checked the Retake movement was campaigning for an ending re-write, not an entire redo of the third installment. 

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SNAKEATEN wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

SNAKEATEN wrote...

Can't say I blame him. This s*** has been going on since day one, even in a professional environment there is only so much crap you can take...


Since day one because they release a shoddy product, if they hadn't then it wouldn't have been going on...simples.


Sure, I get it, some people don't really like ME3, but that doesn't make it ok to bully the developers for it. Not in the slightest.


Show me where that guy bullied anyone?

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Xilizhra wrote...


We've done enough now, let's drop it, as frankly.. most guys in the Mass Effect team have worked their arses off.

If we give up, we give them permission to not work on better endings. The leadership is probably hoping that the fanbase runs out of steam soon. I dearly hope this is not the case; we should not allow ourselves to do so.


WE give THEM  permission?!?  Now we're the catalyst for change.. lol

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

This is so true. Take Mike's comment for instance, "Do you have any idea..." No we don't have any idea, because the only thing we've been shown is Leviathan, information that should have been in game from the beginning


I haven't played Leviathan. Do you feel there is information in there that is essential to the plot of the game?


There's only 1 detail that is "major", that being the motivation of the Catalyst from the POV of the creator. Literally everything else Leviathan says to you is already said by the Catalyst itself in the EC, albeit worded differently.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

To say that the entire game is of low quality is simply not true. I don't care how absurdly high your standards are either.


Stop saying things like these. They simply aren't true.

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Sil wrote...

I'm surprised that I am even writing this, but I must admit that I am on Gamble's side on this. Sure, EA may have pulled the Day 1 DLC crap, and the opening level, ending level, and endings were atrocious, but an awful lot about the game was very well done when you consider they only had two years and one of the hardest gaming jobs of all time; to produce a game that somehow surpasses ME1 and 2, whilst also factoring in the countless possible decisions made in those two games, something very few games companies have ever done before. Not only that, but they have attempted to rectify the endings with the Extended Cut (though they could have made it a far smaller file by presenting it as a slideshow instead of as videos).

We've all ****ed and whined long enough about the endings, and instead of all being constructive.. there have been many posts on twitter that are there purely to antagonise those responsible for the ending. I suppose ultimately, we are damaging our position by constantly complaining even after half a year, but also possibly damaging the chances for more DLC, and if we do that, we may even be causing the chance for cutbacks in the job departments for those who worked so hard on the series. And if anyone loses jobs from this, it won't be Gamble or anyone involved in creating the endings, but the innocent guys actually making the game itself rather than producing it.

We've done enough now, let's drop it, as frankly.. most guys in the Mass Effect team have worked their arses off.


Agreed.  No more whine theory. Who can make the sig banners?

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N7Gold wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

N7Gold wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

N7Gold wrote...

Code_R wrote...

N7Gold wrote...

It surprises me how some people these days act like spoiled brats. I've let my wounds heal up.


It surprises me how people think what they have been given was good quality, value for money and represents what the marketing promised in any way. Spoiled? Maybe if ME3 was all it could have been and they still complained maybe.


I don't think that, I know there are plot holes in the story, but BioWare is trying to fix that with DLCs and what do we call them? "Money hungry leeches" and crap like that. For now, I'll reserve judgement until they stop delivering DLCs for single player, because based on what I'vel earned in the Leviathan DLC, the star kid's purpose for its creators may be to get synthetics to be vulnerable to indoctrination like organics, which is why synthethis is the ideal solution, so the Leviathans can force organics and synthetics to pay tribute to their so-called greatness as the first apex race, otherwise peace with quarians and geth would bevery significant.


I'm sorry but attempting to fix their crappy ending with further crap that we have to PAY for does not make me feel any better.


You don't get it. They are probably foreshadowing the villains in Mass Effect 3's sequels. If you really feel so bitter to the Mass Effect series, then I suggest giving up on Mass Effect and leaving BSN, there's nothing left worth staying.


Giving up on ME? Done and done.

Leaving BSN? Hell no...I enjoy coming here and reminding BiowEAre and others how much FAIL they have become.

As for nothing left worth saying, I disagree. BW's epic failure deserves to be pointed out again and again and again because they still don't seem to get it.

It saddens me in a way to say this because at one point not to long ago I was one of their biggest fans and then EA happened.


Don't you think they get the point and are doing everything they can to fix it?  We're like the Salarians letting the Krogan suffer with the genophage. BioWare has suffered enough. We should re-evaluate what we expect from them, I mean this whole thing started because the Reapers purpose is confusing, they claim to be trying to achieve galactic peace between organics and synthetics, but with the harvesting cycle, it is all confusing because the original cut didn't clarify anything, and that was the start of our fan rage. But the Leviathan DLC gave me new theories that make me believe that peace between organics and synthetics is a convenient lie for the star kid and Leviathans. With the EC DLC, when the star kid mentioned its creators, I thought its creators were galactic peacekeepers/peacemakers, but when I played the Leviathan DLC, I found out that's not who they are, they're an arrogant race who see everyone and everything in the galaxy as tools. With the Retake Omega DLC coming, who knows what kinds of information that DLC will have? I used to be upset at BioWare like you, for good reasons, but I'm not going to let the past cloud my judgement on them forever. BioWare is doing something about this, and I plan on evaluating their actions before goning on a fan rage again. I don't care if they change the endings or not, I just want everything to make sense.


Thats nice for you...but i'm not willing to pay even more to fix a problem they made and then had the perfect opportunity to fix with the EC and chose not to.

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The twitter guy was a jerk, he deserved Gamble's answer. Most of these haters really have no idea wtf they are talking about. Or maybe he was simply a troll... either way he was acting as a spoiled brat.

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o Ventus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

To say that the entire game is of low quality is simply not true. I don't care how absurdly high your standards are either.


Stop saying things like these. They simply aren't true.


Sarcasm? 

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OMG! A Bioware employee encountered a jerk on the internet?!?!?

SEND IN THE MARINES!!!!!!

I lol'd.