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[Wayning_Star]

Hexley UK wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...-Draikin- wrote...*reads*I'm sorry but If I look at the complete picture then I find it difficult to support Gamble. Here's how it started:Michael Gamble: Wild, rampant speculation. I love it.Mr Comic Book: @GambleMike we dont.. Michael Gamble: @comicbookguy_UK ...too bad :)That's what started the conversation in the OP.  Sorry, but what exactly did Mike Gamble expect to achieve here with his initial comment? It's flamebait and as expected someone took a bite. I'm not saying he shouldn't post, but did he really need to post THAT? I'm sure people who are happy with the EC can find his comment funny, but there's plenty of people that don't. Here's what followed:Mr Comic Book: @GambleMike next time u buy a book ill rip out the last 1/4 and sell u it as dlc.. See if u like it? With EA.. Im THAT cynical!Michael Gamble: @comicbookguy_UK wow. Do you have any ****ing clue how hard the team has been working over the past year to deliver NEW content ? Mr Comic Book: @GambleMike ive never said u guys dont work hard.. Ive bot (sic) EVERYTHING ever made with a ME label Mike Gamble: @comicbookguy_UK my point was that we didn't strip anything out of the game and resell as dlc.I love how Bioware throws us middle fingers or taunts like that and we are not supposed to be angry but smile and say "please may I have some more Master?"

We deserve it, you know because we're "Whiny" "Entitled" and "Stupid".

how is the first sentence not considered a jab at us all?

I consider it a jab at all of us who don't like the ending, something which Mike must know full well.

And for the record "speculation" is quickly becoming one of my most hated words.

I don't like 'speculation' much either.. but it's hard to infer the realities that are so far fetched in Sci Fi...in any event..so some is required. It would be better to have it all 'codexed' and ' lored' in..imo..

But...I don't like to wait tooooo long on a game to come out...or get totally lost in logistics..so I can tolorate some .. but to digress, this last installment requires a "lot".. probably too much..then the DLC to cover them gets a bad rap..imho

[crimzontearz]

Speezy wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...If we give up, we give them permission to not work on better endings. The leadership is probably hoping that the fanbase runs out of steam soon. I dearly hope this is not the case; we should not allow ourselves to do so.

Oh.My.God.Shut the **** about the ****ing endings. Seriously. We get it. They are ****. They are horrible. They are the worse thing since Hitler. But they aren't going to be changed. Not again. Not after the EC (which set a huge precedence.)So get over it. It's been six months. If you are seriously still obessing over the ****ty endings for that long then you seriously need to get a ****ing life and move on. **** about the next videogame catastrophe.

I'll move on to a non catastrophe hopefully, Darksiders 2 was very good, Halo 4 looks awesome

[Hexley UK]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

how is the first sentence not considered a jab at us all?

Or maybe he's just happy fans are excited for next DLC? People want REALLY badly to see something cynical in everything BW devs tweet just to use it as ammo later on

Well you know after all the blatant lies pre-me3 you have to expect people to be skeptical.

blatant lies doesn't qualify as a factual statement..sorry

How so?

[I am Sovereign]

Speezy wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If we give up, we give them permission to not work on better endings. The leadership is probably hoping that the fanbase runs out of steam soon. I dearly hope this is not the case; we should not allow ourselves to do so.

Oh.

My.

God.

Shut the **** about the ****ing endings. Seriously. We get it. They are ****. They are horrible. They are the worse thing since Hitler.

But they aren't going to be changed. Not again. Not after the EC (which set a huge precedence.)

So get over it. It's been six months. If you are seriously still obessing over the ****ty endings for that long then you seriously need to get a ****ing life and move on. **** about the next videogame catastrophe.

Why you heff to be mad?

Modifié par I am Sovereign, 16 septembre 2012 - 03:50 .

[Wayning_Star]

Hexley UK wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

how is the first sentence not considered a jab at us all?

Or maybe he's just happy fans are excited for next DLC? People want REALLY badly to see something cynical in everything BW devs tweet just to use it as ammo later on

Well you know after all the blatant lies pre-me3 you have to expect people to be skeptical.

blatant lies doesn't qualify as a factual statement..sorry

How so?

well, lies means the total untruth, that being impossible to argue...so it's not a good way to describe your intent..

[crimzontearz]

AlanC9 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote..look, I work for a VERY large company and I am a customer service rep, our parent company is a multinational large enough to buy and sell EA many times over (in two weeks when I chance job I will be able to say which one). We ALL (including the lowliest guys) sign an agreement upon hiring saying we will represent our company even off the clock AND not doing so is ground for termination......in light of that I really cannot take anything Allan says at face value

That doesn't make any sense. If Allan didn't want to say that stuff, he could still say nothing, couldn't he?

no what I mean is whatever he says is approved before he says so for the good of the company.....thus even if he really hated the ending he could NEVER say so in all honesty and to the whole extent of it

[Stalker]

Wow. You just can't get that personal to customers. Was he drunk when he wrote it?

BioWare is even going more downhill than I thought...

[shepskisaac]

Rubios wrote...

lmao Rubios xD

[Xellith]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

how is the first sentence not considered a jab at us all?

Or maybe he's just happy fans are excited for next DLC? People want REALLY badly to see something cynical in everything BW devs tweet just to use it as ammo later on

Well you know after all the blatant lies pre-me3 you have to expect people to be skeptical.

blatant lies doesn't qualify as a factual statement..sorry

How so?

well, lies means the total untruth, that being impossible to argue...so it's not a good way to describe your intent..

Mac Walters said...

[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers

does this count as a lie?

[Verit]

satunnainen wrote...
Its part of adult life to learn not to get offended about every single thing you can theoretically get offended.

Neither is the need to swear, but in this particular conversation it was Gamble that felt the need to resort to that. Comic Book guy was clearly venting his frustration after Gamble's initial two tweets but like he said, he never said anything about Bioware not working hard. I don't want to jump on the "we hate Bioware" bandwagon, because obviously they got a lot of hate that was uncalled for, but it's easy to claim Gamble can't talk to us without getting flooded with angry replies if this is the way he tries to communicate with the fans.

[Wayning_Star]

Xellith wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

how is the first sentence not considered a jab at us all?

Or maybe he's just happy fans are excited for next DLC? People want REALLY badly to see something cynical in everything BW devs tweet just to use it as ammo later on

Well you know after all the blatant lies pre-me3 you have to expect people to be skeptical.

blatant lies doesn't qualify as a factual statement..sorry

How so?

well, lies means the total untruth, that being impossible to argue...so it's not a good way to describe your intent..

Mac Walters said...

[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers

does this count as a lie?

Nope, I saved the Queen and she went about working on the crucible gizmo..Yay!!

now we have to decide just exactly what the semantics of 'huge' describes..and I'm JUST TOO LAZY.. lol

(should go fishing..then tell 'stories'?)

[Hexley UK]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

how is the first sentence not considered a jab at us all?

Or maybe he's just happy fans are excited for next DLC? People want REALLY badly to see something cynical in everything BW devs tweet just to use it as ammo later on

Well you know after all the blatant lies pre-me3 you have to expect people to be skeptical.

blatant lies doesn't qualify as a factual statement..sorry

How so?

well, lies means the total untruth, that being impossible to argue...so it's not a good way to describe your intent..

Casy Hudson 2 months prior to ME3's release - "This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C"

"As Mass Effect 3 is the end of a planned trilogy, the developers are not constrained by the necessity of allowing the story to diverge, yet also continue the story into the next chapter. This will result in a story that diverges into wildy different conclusions based on the player's actions in the first two chapters."

How are these NOT a lies?

There are many more examples and not just by Casey...but you get the point.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 16 septembre 2012 - 04:02 .

[Baa Baa]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I'm not sure why people complain to Bioware on Twitter when the person responsible for most of ME3's problems hasn't responded to tweets since around release.

This too

[Xellith]

But the rachni are not required one way or the other. You can keep the rachni around (even the indoctrinated rachni queen) and you dont get any changes in the story whatsoever aside from an email.

Original Queen = email saying good stuff and 100 EMS
Indoctrinated Queen = email saying bad stuff and loss of EMS.

Or even get rid of the queen entirely.

So thats the huge consequence?

Modifié par Xellith, 16 septembre 2012 - 04:03 .

[o Ventus]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Nope, I saved the Queen and she went about working on the crucible gizmo..Yay!!

now we have to decide just exactly what the semantics of 'huge' describes..and I'm JUST TOO LAZY.. lol

(should go fishing..then tell 'stories'?)

"Huge" has pretty clear connotations, and a numerical value isn't one of them in a visual medium. You aren't even trying at this point, are you?

[Hexley UK]

Baa Baa wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I'm not sure why people complain to Bioware on Twitter when the person responsible for most of ME3's problems hasn't responded to tweets since around release.

This too

The silence from certain people says it all....

[satunnainen]

-Draikin- wrote...

satunnainen wrote...
Its part of adult life to learn not to get offended about every single thing you can theoretically get offended.

Neither is the need to swear, but in this particular conversation it was Gamble that felt the need to resort to that. Comic Book guy was clearly venting his frustration after Gamble's initial two tweets but like he said, he never said anything about Bioware not working hard. I don't want to jump on the "we hate Bioware" bandwagon, because obviously they got a lot of hate that was uncalled for, but it's easy to claim Gamble can't talk to us without getting flooded with angry replies if this is the way he tries to communicate with the fans.

I was trying to comment that other guy who said something about comicbookguy being entitled to trolling because mr gamble started it by insulting ("I like speculations" etc..). I just did not write clearly enough, as usual

[Wayning_Star]

-Draikin- wrote...

satunnainen wrote...
Its part of adult life to learn not to get offended about every single thing you can theoretically get offended.

Neither is the need to swear, but in this particular conversation it was Gamble that felt the need to resort to that. Comic Book guy was clearly venting his frustration after Gamble's initial two tweets but like he said, he never said anything about Bioware not working hard. I don't want to jump on the "we hate Bioware" bandwagon, because obviously they got a lot of hate that was uncalled for, but it's easy to claim Gamble can't talk to us without getting flooded with angry replies if this is the way he tries to communicate with the fans.

well, if every tweet ends up in a pushing match..??? Why do fans expect to write games? Or, rerwrite games they don't like the endings to or their concept of the aforementioned? I don't like a science fiction book ending, then I write the author and tell them to 'remake/rethink' their version of my experenced events to their message involve in their story?

That isn't immersion, that's conversion?

[Ghost]

GenericEnemy wrote...

If I was in his position, I would've started dropping them long ago.

[Wayning_Star]

Uh Oh.. fans don't LIKE to be immersed in video games... who knew?

[Hexley UK]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Uh Oh.. fans don't LIKE to be immersed in video games... who knew?

wut?

[Cyberstrike nTo]

N7 Lisbeth wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...
Its a first world problem. Sorry, I have zero sympathy for people who think being entertained is important enough to rage over. The obnoxious behavior, the personal attacks and the cynical conspiracies and assumptions. They are all nonsense. Entertainment is a luxury, it is not a right.

You're belittling them without even trying to understand them. You keep harping on entertainment, but you're forgetting that these games got people emotionally involved. It encouraged it. It's like telling me telling you that you don't own your wife, so you're not allowed to feel angry she betrayed you. That's a first world problem, people are dying from hunger and you're obsessed about your wife sleeping with another man.

It is always possible to disregard that which we don't agree with because there are "more important things," like you're doing. The trick is not to.

I am huge a fan of The Transformers franchise and have been since they debuted in 1984. Now there are parts of that of that franchise that I don't like but I don't constantly go one fansites or company sites and whine about them. I don't blame Hasbro, IDW Comics, Marvel Comics, Shout! Factory, Paramount Pictures, High Moon Studios, Sunbow Productions, or any numer of publishers, animation companies, video games companies, or other company if they go in a direction that I don't like, I simply don't buy/watch/read/play the products that are part of the franchise that I didn't enjoy.

If people don't like Mass Effect 3 for any reason then they should stop playing it, buying and/or getting the DLC, stop buying the novels, comics, toys, and any other ME related media, stop posting here, and move on to another video game franchise.

[Xellith]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Uh Oh.. fans don't LIKE to be immersed in video games... who knew?

Actually someone talked to Chris Priestley about the "vanishing weapons or changing weapons" issue in cutscenes.  He said that its not going to be fixed since it only breaks immersion.

[Code_R]

crimzontearz wrote...
I love how Bioware throws us middle fingers or taunts like that and we are not supposed to be angry but smile and say "please may I have some more Master?"

Plenty of people are doing just that though