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[FearTheCompany]

No. Get over it

[kipac]

GallowsPole wrote...

OP is racist against promoters. I vote NO to his proposal.

Easy there, I'm not against promoters 
Playing just one silver match can level you up multiple times. (About 3 I think?)
It doesn't take that much of time to level up your character. I'm not saying you should be lv20 to be on gold. Maybe about 8, at least?

[Mr Vorcha]

GallowsPole wrote...

OP is racist against promoters. I vote NO to his proposal.

No, he´s not.
If you´re a promoter, fine. But, please, could you just level a few times before trying to gold/platinum?
C´mon, silver is fun and gives some enough XP. Why don´t??
Unless you´re a great, experient and skilled player, you´ll be carried out the entired match if using a lvl 1 character on gold/platinum.

[Zancloufer]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

.... wow. honestly I should be saying the same thing about ANYONE who plays gold who isn't N7 3K +, simply because thats around the N7 where people have 5/5/5/5 consumables and decent enough level rare weapons.

So if I can't level my level 1s in gold you expect me to play silver huh? Hmm... Honestly most people I carry with my level 1 in gold need to take they're non promoting level 20 azzes back to silver and play there. I play just fine on any class with any weapon on any level in gold. The people you see attempting and failing are just nubs expecting to be carried because they think they have a "high" N7.

Lemme ask this, do you think the same should apply to a 5K N7, or a 10K N7, or a 15K N7, or a 20K N7? Because right now there are only ~30 people above 10K N7 (Xbox) and besides the ones that obviously glitch, they would literaly carry you and the rest of the crap azz level 20s through an ENTIRE gold game on they're own.

Level 1 characters are too low to play in a Gold game.  Yes they MIGHT be really good, but their character is still severely gimped compared to even a level 10 one.  Whats wrong with playing 1-2 Silvers to level?

Also N7 level has NOTING to do with gear and weapons.  i have 5/5/6/5 Consumables and multiple Rares at X but only have an N7 of 270.  I simply do not premote.  A lot of people who premote might also spend a lot of time on lower difficulties while those who never do could very well play Gold 24/7

Other day played a Pair of Gold games with an okay PUG.  The Score was literally inverse to the N7, with the higher (1.5K+) N7s scoring less than the lower ones (top scoring in all the games was N7 120).  Just something to think about. 

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

I'd rather have a good lvl 20 then a godly lvl 1.

And this is why level 20s are usually trash. That comment has to be the stupidest thing I've heard all dam week.(Including last week).

Now if you really believe for a second a level 20 paladin using a geth plasma SMG 2 as his only weapon will EVER outperform a level 1 soldier campin an ammo box with a Harrier X and a Scorpion X on FBWGG, then you are seriously beyond help.

[DStyles516]

My friends and I have done plenty of gold matches together boosting our level 1s. Most of the time I used my level 1 characters on gold with friends because I could rely on them to hold the line. Even when I don't play with my friends and bring a level 1 into a gold match I still hold my own because I know how to stick with a group, take cover, and aim quick. Using a low level character in gold makes it a challenge again although I understand the frustration OP is talking about. There are a lot of people that just can't hold their own or help out the team when they play. There's quite a few who are terrible at level 20 as well though. It's very annoying to constantly revive someone and fail because of it but not all level 1s are bad. Still though if you can't hold the line in gold, don't bring in a level 1. I proved I'm worth my salt though but level X rares and knowing how to play as a team helps.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Zancloufer wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

.... wow. honestly I should be saying the same thing about ANYONE who plays gold who isn't N7 3K +, simply because thats around the N7 where people have 5/5/5/5 consumables and decent enough level rare weapons.

So if I can't level my level 1s in gold you expect me to play silver huh? Hmm... Honestly most people I carry with my level 1 in gold need to take they're non promoting level 20 azzes back to silver and play there. I play just fine on any class with any weapon on any level in gold. The people you see attempting and failing are just nubs expecting to be carried because they think they have a "high" N7.

Lemme ask this, do you think the same should apply to a 5K N7, or a 10K N7, or a 15K N7, or a 20K N7? Because right now there are only ~30 people above 10K N7 (Xbox) and besides the ones that obviously glitch, they would literaly carry you and the rest of the crap azz level 20s through an ENTIRE gold game on they're own.

Level 1 characters are too low to play in a Gold game.  Yes they MIGHT be really good, but their character is still severely gimped compared to even a level 10 one.  Whats wrong with playing 1-2 Silvers to level?

Also N7 level has NOTING to do with gear and weapons.  i have 5/5/6/5 Consumables and multiple Rares at X but only have an N7 of 270.  I simply do not premote.  A lot of people who premote might also spend a lot of time on lower difficulties while those who never do could very well play Gold 24/7

Other day played a Pair of Gold games with an okay PUG.  The Score was literally inverse to the N7, with the higher (1.5K+) N7s scoring less than the lower ones (top scoring in all the games was N7 120).  Just something to think about. 

LOL and whats really funny is the only people who say this crap are people who DON"T promote. THy have no skill with a level 1 so they assume someone who's been doing it FOR THE PAST 3 MONTHS NONSTOP are just as trash with a level 1 as they are. Talking about score also gives me an indication you have NO F*&King clue how this game really works.

Gimped? What is it that your measuring this gimp? The fact they simply only have max 2 abilities? Thats sensable if thats the reason, other than that, since you wanna use the scoreboard, I CONSISTANTLY outscore level 20s in public gold games with my level 1s simply because my UR weapons OUTDAMAGE they're abilities and crap azz level weapons. Add in the fact I know how to play with level 1s, simply because Im a promoter who plays to win, I top the scoreboard just fine. Are you measuring that as well? Or are you just one of the people who get butthurt over a level 1 outduing your "superior" level 20?

[Zancloufer]

Of Course a level 20 Paladin with GPSMG wouldn't do that good, you can't slap a Melee mod on it. I mean what 'Good' Player would only use a GPSMG? That's kinda common sense right there.
Now a level 1 Acolyte with a Stunner on said Paladin, that's kinda scary.

[ryoldschool]

theillusiveman11 wrote...

My favorite thing is when they accuse you of cheating afterwards. I gave up trying to explain that a Harrier with an Assault Rifle Amp III and Inferno Ammo IV will make any character of any level "viable" on Gold.

If you do this with friends, then fine.   I played a bunch of gold matches with friends and one of the guys had a PPR X and he was regularly scoring 125K with his destroyer.  He promoted right in the middle of the run of matches, and he still scored 125K, although we had to revive him a bunch in that first match.  { in all the matches, even when he was level 1 he always had full consumables applied ).   I would have left the lobby if I were in a PUG and somebody with that loadout tried it.  If you are on a really good team then you can get away with just being a shooting machine.

[TMB903]

Stupid thread...I've played countless matches on gold with a Lvl 1 and still dominated the match

[mumba]

I handle myself extremely well with a lvl 1 character. If people can't handle themselves at lvl 1. They weren't good at the game to begin with.

[Zancloufer]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Zancloufer wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

.... wow. honestly I should be saying the same thing about ANYONE who plays gold who isn't N7 3K +, simply because thats around the N7 where people have 5/5/5/5 consumables and decent enough level rare weapons.

So if I can't level my level 1s in gold you expect me to play silver huh? Hmm... Honestly most people I carry with my level 1 in gold need to take they're non promoting level 20 azzes back to silver and play there. I play just fine on any class with any weapon on any level in gold. The people you see attempting and failing are just nubs expecting to be carried because they think they have a "high" N7.

Lemme ask this, do you think the same should apply to a 5K N7, or a 10K N7, or a 15K N7, or a 20K N7? Because right now there are only ~30 people above 10K N7 (Xbox) and besides the ones that obviously glitch, they would literaly carry you and the rest of the crap azz level 20s through an ENTIRE gold game on they're own.

Level 1 characters are too low to play in a Gold game.  Yes they MIGHT be really good, but their character is still severely gimped compared to even a level 10 one.  Whats wrong with playing 1-2 Silvers to level?

Also N7 level has NOTING to do with gear and weapons.  i have 5/5/6/5 Consumables and multiple Rares at X but only have an N7 of 270.  I simply do not premote.  A lot of people who premote might also spend a lot of time on lower difficulties while those who never do could very well play Gold 24/7

Other day played a Pair of Gold games with an okay PUG.  The Score was literally inverse to the N7, with the higher (1.5K+) N7s scoring less than the lower ones (top scoring in all the games was N7 120).  Just something to think about. 

LOL and whats really funny is the only people who say this crap are people who DON"T promote. THy have no skill with a level 1 so they assume someone who's been doing it FOR THE PAST 3 MONTHS NONSTOP are just as trash with a level 1 as they are. Talking about score also gives me an indication you have NO F*&King clue how this game really works.

Gimped? What is it that your measuring this gimp? The fact they simply only have max 2 abilities? Thats sensable if thats the reason, other than that, since you wanna use the scoreboard, I CONSISTANTLY outscore level 20s in public gold games with my level 1s simply because my UR weapons OUTDAMAGE they're abilities and crap azz level weapons. Add in the fact I know how to play with level 1s, simply because Im a promoter who plays to win, I top the scoreboard just fine. Are you measuring that as well? Or are you just one of the people who get butthurt over a level 1 outduing your "superior" level 20?

Gimped: AS in having only 1 power, maybe 2 at rank 1.  Powers, and passive Trees add ALOT of firepower for most characters.  I can play pretty much any Adapt, and the Paladin with almost no reliance on weapons, just class skills.  If you want to find a decent comparison of a level 1 vs a level 20, maybe you should find someone as good as you.  Yes you can out do a level 20 with a level 1, but is it fun, or enjoyable?  It is HARDER to player as/with level 1 characters than level 20.  No matter how good you can be a shooting **** with a level 1 character, level 20 character would be suppior anyway.

Not saying YOU can't pull off it, but 50-75% of the PUGs out there struggle with level 17+ characters on Gold, so I sure as hell am not taking a chance with a level 1 unless I know the person.

Now in Silver or with friends I don't care much, but at least in Gold+ it makes a differnce.

[tonnactus]

palmof40sorrows wrote...


Uh, Level 8 =/= Level 1? Like, not even close. Level 8 gives you enough points to give yourself some relevant abilities, while Level 1 makes you rely SOLELY on weapons and skill.

Wrong. It depends on the class. A soldier or infiltrator get decent boost from cloak or adrenaline rush even at level 1.

And an Asari Adept or Vanguard can save people from phantoms even at level 1 with stasis.

And  a salarian engineer is good against geth even with a level one decoy.

Modifié par tonnactus, 16 septembre 2012 - 03:05 .

[kipac]

TMB903 wrote...

Stupid thread...I've played countless matches on gold with a Lvl 1 and still dominated the match

Read the thread carefully before mocking somebody. 
I said 'unless you're sure of your skills'. If you do it fine' then don't spend time here.

[121210Olivia]

Well sounded out OP. I stopped promoting months ago (only exception being the prior weekend op that made promoting its goal), despite this, my N7 is 1675. More importantly, I would never have the audacity to even entertain the very thought of using a LVL 1 character on Gold.

My advice: Verbally reprimand ANY & ALL N7 1000+ who attempt this and, clearly, are NOT the kind of player you want to bother with.

BTW: Never be intimidated by high-ranking N7s. I've played enough matches to know (meaning I have formed the following opinion), MANY games are ruined because they, as you quite rightly point out hissy-fit (aka "Rage-quit"), have ridiculously pathetic "ideas" about how good they aren't, and generally, IMHO, are lacking in even average skills.

In short, BE short -- bin them immediately. After all, rubbish belongs in bins.

Modifié par 121210Olivia, 16 septembre 2012 - 03:10 .

[DeadeyeCYclops]

I always bring my lvl 1 into gold and i outscore most lvl 20's so your complaint is null and void, now go get better at the game so you don't have to cry about lvl1's

Modifié par DeadeyeCYclops78, 16 septembre 2012 - 03:09 .

[ryoldschool]

tonnactus wrote...

palmof40sorrows wrote...


Uh, Level 8 =/= Level 1? Like, not even close. Level 8 gives you enough points to give yourself some relevant abilities, while Level 1 makes you rely SOLELY on weapons and skill.

Wrong. It depends on the class. A soldier or infiltrator get decent boost from cloak or adrenaline rush even at level 1.

And an Asari Adept or Vanguard can save people from phantoms even at level 1 with stasis.

And  a salarian engineer is good against geth even with a level one decoy.

There is no doubt some people can perform well on silver or gold with a low level character.   If we are talking PUG then I am not going to assume that the level 1 in my lobby is one of them.   All these arguments people are posting about how they can do it makes no difference to me, because if I don't know you then I am going to guess that you are one of those many level ones who are horrible  on Gold and I don't want to chance it on you being one of those awesome players who can pull it off.

[121210Olivia]

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

I always bring my lvl 1 into gold and i outscore most lvl 20's so your complaint is null and void, now go get better at the game so you don't have to cry about lvl1's

WTF?

Imbecile (and actually,consider yourself extremely fortunate at receiving that). 

Modifié par 121210Olivia, 16 septembre 2012 - 03:12 .

[DeadeyeCYclops]

121210Olivia wrote...

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

I always bring my lvl 1 into gold and i outscore most lvl 20's so your complaint is null and void, now go get better at the game so you don't have to cry about lvl1's

WTF?

Imbecile (and actually,consider yourself extremely fortunate at receiving that). 

 let the butthurt flow through you young padawan

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Zancloufer wrote...

Gimped: AS in having only 1 power, maybe 2 at rank 1.  Powers, and passive Trees add ALOT of firepower for most characters.  I can play pretty much any Adapt, and the Paladin with almost no reliance on weapons, just class skills.  If you want to find a decent comparison of a level 1 vs a level 20, maybe you should find someone as good as you.  Yes you can out do a level 20 with a level 1, but is it fun, or enjoyable?  It is HARDER to player as/with level 1 characters than level 20.  No matter how good you can be a shooting **** with a level 1 character, level 20 character would be suppior anyway.

Not saying YOU can't pull off it, but 50-75% of the PUGs out there struggle with level 17+ characters on Gold, so I sure as hell am not taking a chance with a level 1 unless I know the person.

Now in Silver or with friends I don't care much, but at least in Gold+ it makes a differnce.

I regularly play with friends who are better/just as good/awesome enough to play with level 1s. Playing with level 1s actually is "routine." once you do it over 250 times. (The "average legit" 10K N7 has promoted and used a level 1 at least that many times, do the math yourself) I'm not really going to come across anyone as good as me to compare myself to simply because I realized a long time ago this is a co-op game and I'm willing to take a "epeen" dive whenever my teamates need me to, as long as we're having fun and WINNING!

*************incoming smug comment***********
And btw, yes outdoing any level 20 with a level 1 is fun, just because according to this topic and a bunch of people who don't promote, there should be no reason why it happens. Probably because my N7 level is 10x the entire lobby added together....idk, perhaps playing with a level 1 all the time has givin me more survivablity skills than a person running around fully suited up has. Perhaps I'm just that beast...

[DeadeyeCYclops]

Seriously if more ppl brought lvl1 into gold, they might actually get better at the game, bah nvm that is just wishful thinking as most of you suck at this game regardless of yout n7 rank, character lvl, or time invvested lvling up UR

[P51Mus7ang]

I have seen it go both ways so I will look at the weapons and even then it's a tough call as I know, have on our team and have seen many do it in gold. If I have three good players I know on the team, I don't care, we will get full extraction.

[121210Olivia]

LVL 1 on Gold? Bin and abuse such atrocious rubbish.

[Simbacca]

ryoldschool wrote...

There is no doubt some people can perform well on gold with a low level character.   If we are talking PUG then I am not going to assume that the level 1 in my lobby is one of them.

Modifié par Simbacca, 16 septembre 2012 - 03:23 .