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[Grubas]

ME2 was most fun to play. Narration, interaction and shooterparts have just the right mix. We have 3 hubworlds for exploration and the epic suicide mission. Thats why its the best.

ME3 has to many really annoying moments that the rest of the game has to make up for. When i was playing it, i thought well let the ending decide whether its good or not. Thats why its the worst.

Modifié par Grubas, 17 septembre 2012 - 10:13 .

[tonnactus]

iggy4566 wrote...

 Mass effect 2 was better game than ME3 was , it took everything we did and made it matter and it had great side quest and you ACTUALLY  felt like eveything you did ment something like ME3 was such dumbed down game **** ending aside ME3 was a really dumbed down game like I can't even call it an RPG.

Lol. Mass Effect 2 not even had weapon stats as bars and only one branch to develop skills. No weapon mods. This retarded piece of crap also introduced women who fight in high heels just as one example to appeal to an wider audience.

Its morale system was also a big joke,someone had to be either completly renegade or paragon to be able to make important decisions.

Nothing is more dumbed down then Pokemon in Space.

Modifié par tonnactus, 17 septembre 2012 - 10:50 .

[tonnactus]

Mr.House wrote...



I'm surprised this up for debate. Not everyone liked ME2, I find it to be an overhyped piece of trash with very few redeaming aspects  and more problems then I could count on my hands.

Even Dragon AGe 2 is better then this crap. This game does nothing good at all. Even the "characters" are puppets that only exists for Shepard alone and barely interact with eachother. A horrible attempt at the Dirty Dozen in space.

Modifié par tonnactus, 17 septembre 2012 - 10:39 .

[thearbiter1337]

I'm certain that ME2 was SUPPOSED to foreshadow Harbinger and his evil deeds that he's gonna do to everyone

Like how Halo 2 leaded up to the events of Halo 3

But that never happened with ME2-3

[corkey sweet]

ME2 was better

[Nightwriter]

iggy4566 wrote...

 Mass effect 2 was better game than ME3 was , it took everything we did and made it matter and it had great side quest and you ACTUALLY  felt like eveything you did ment something like ME3 was such dumbed down game **** ending aside ME3 was a really dumbed down game like I can't even call it an RPG.

Pfft. The only good thing about ME2 was the characters, which it didn't even implement well. You get a brief sidequest with them and a handful of conversations. They don't interact, or react to the story. Most of the time they're inert.

The game itself serves you a bunch of snacks and tries to call it a meal. You make no long term achievements. It's like an hour of story packed into thirty hours of game. And that has got to be the sloppiest handling of an affiliation shift I've ever seen.

[Kusy]

Story is not equal to Game.

Mass Effect 3 was a better game. Mass Effect 2 was a wannabee shooter that also pretended to have anything in common with the RPG genre.

[iggy4566]

So yeah nit picking much?

[xeNNN]

iggy4566 wrote...

 Mass effect 2 was better game than ME3 was , it took everything we did and made it matter and it had great side quest and you ACTUALLY  felt like eveything you did ment something like ME3 was such dumbed down game **** ending aside ME3 was a really dumbed down game like I can't even call it an RPG.

to be honest i think the one big failing about mass effect 3 was they tried to channel to much emotion out of the player i mean yeah of course its going to be dark but i think they over did it slightly that being said, the reaction after thessia still gets to me lol so they did a good job of it, but they focused to much on it. 

as for making things matter, yeah i agree mass effect 2 did a really good job of that, made you feel like you mattered to your companions and they matter to you (to some extent) and what you did previously in the game decides the outcome of your mission which is what mad mass effect 2 great, mass effect 3 failed to deliver in that respect. 

but mass effect 1 i find myself playing a lot more than mass effect 2 or 3 (besides MP which i enjoy sometimes), though it was buggy and the elevators were god awfully annoying, the connection to specific characters was imo more fun and better (even though the character personalities got 10x better) but you were able to shape your characters opinions just like you pretty much decide how garrus turns out lol its practically like raising him haha. there was also more communication between the protagonist and the antagonist so yeah i prefer mass effect 1 out of them all its the only one which i can replay constantly.

Modifié par xeNNN, 18 septembre 2012 - 12:19 .

[Solus88]

After playing through ME3 again, I think it's a great game. The ending is a let-down though, the EC helped it a bit but still, it isn't brilliant. I think ME2 is a great game too but I'd put ME3 ahead of it.

[JimJamBimBam]

I'm not sure, actually. I think I probably enjoyed actually playing through the story of ME3, since it was far more emotional and engaging (for me) than ME2 was. However, it was only engaging thanks to ME2's excellent character development. And of course, ME2 had the Suicide Mission, one of the best missions in any video game, period.

So for me, ME3 had the more engaging and emotional campaign, but ME2 definitly had better character development and a truly epic ending. ME1 had the best story. I honestly can't pick which one of the three I like best though.

[The Spamming Troll]

ME2 and ME3 would have been better off if they looked at ME1 for inspiration instead of every where else.

a little foresight would have been good too.

[iggy4566]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

ME2 and ME3 would have been better off if they looked at ME1 for inspiration instead of every where else.

a little foresight would have been good too.

ME2 did things right ME3 did not.

[fr33stylez]

Nightwriter wrote...

Pfft. The only good thing about ME2 was the characters, which it didn't even implement well. You get a brief sidequest with them and a handful of conversations. They don't interact, or react to the story. Most of the time they're inert. 

The game itself serves you a bunch of snacks and tries to call it a meal. You make no long term achievements. It's like an hour of story packed into thirty hours of game. And that has got to be the sloppiest handling of an affiliation shift I've ever seen.

 Even though I'm a severe critic of MANY of the things in ME2 (Space Jesus resurrection, solving daddy issues, striping of RPG elements, irrelevant Bug People story-line, Council amnesia, Human-Reaper)....

ME3 just went off the deep end - I can't even enjoy it superficially like I can with ME2. The Cerberus super army, the Intro (irrelevance of Arrival), Kai Leng, the Beam run, TIM, Starboy, Synthesis?....Oh my.....

Modifié par fr33stylez, 18 septembre 2012 - 01:27 .

[tonnactus]

Nightwriter wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

 Mass effect 2 was better game than ME3 was , it took everything we did and made it matter and it had great side quest and you ACTUALLY  felt like eveything you did ment something like ME3 was such dumbed down game **** ending aside ME3 was a really dumbed down game like I can't even call it an RPG.

Pfft. The only good thing about ME2 was the characters, which it didn't even implement well. You get a brief sidequest with them and a handful of conversations. They don't interact, or react to the story. Most of the time they're inert.

The game itself serves you a bunch of snacks and tries to call it a meal. You make no long term achievements. It's like an hour of story packed into thirty hours of game. And that has got to be the sloppiest handling of an affiliation shift I've ever seen.

Funny enough that you got their personal sidequest even without talking to them before. Shepard has not even to talk to gain their trust, they open theirself without any effort. In the first game, the player had to actually talk to Garrus and Wrex to get their sidequests.

And then we have the redhaired bimbo that "remind"(get on your nerves) the player to talk to the npc when the daddy issues come up.

Modifié par tonnactus, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:07 .

[Mordak55]

iggy4566 wrote...

 Mass effect 2 was better game than ME3 was , it took everything we did and made it matter and it had great side quest and you ACTUALLY  felt like eveything you did ment something like ME3 was such dumbed down game **** ending aside ME3 was a really dumbed down game like I can't even call it an RPG.

I used to agree with you, but after doing a "quick" play to have a new class ready for ME3, I did find some of the game a bit of a pain. I think that to be honest there are too many squad mates in ME2. 

Dont get me wrong I still love ME2, but I can see a few flaws in it. ME3 is much more linear, but its still a good game despite its many flaws, well apart from the last 10 minutes anyway. 

[ElSuperGecko]

I prefer ME2 over both ME3 and ME1. It felt like the most complete and polished game of the series. The gameplay was far sight better than ME1 (and ME3, in my opinion), the universe was fairly open and you could choose the order you did the missions in, there were plenty of side quests, hub worlds and unexplored planets, plus a memorable villan and an epic final mission.

ME3 felt dumbed down and linear by comparison.

[hostaman]

Taking the thread at face value it's a statement that ME2 was a better game.

I would agree with that in part. If you ignore MP, then ME2 certainly felt bigger, and it also felt like you had a greater level of control over the character interactions and direction of the story. Things did seem to matter more.

On the flip side, there is a massive amount of exaggeration by those who hated ME3. It wasn't that much different. It had a different purpose and needed to lead the player to a final conclusion, which felt like it took power away from the player, but ultimately the game mechanic was very similar, and even improved in many places, especially combat.

Even if you concede that ME2 was better than ME3 as an experience (which I do), it is still a very good game, and is at least equal in worth to ME2 when you dial in the excellent multiplayer.

I realise I'm posting this in the central troll forum (where any positive opinion is utterly destroyed) - so bring it on my hating troll friends.

[Pee Jae]

You know what I miss from ME2? Squadmates talking during fights.

"Hello, dead people!"
"Scoped and dropped!"
"Right on your ass!"
"Gravity is one mean mother."
"Now you see me ..."
"Automated flight-weapon rigged."
"Perfect!"
"Flammable! Or inflammable. Forget which. Doesn't matter."
"Embrace eternity!"
"Go for the optics, Chiktikka! Go for the optics!"
"One falls."
"That'll put'em down."

Sure, it got repetitious after you'd heard it all, but it's better than the mostly nothing we have now.

[EnvyTB075]

ME2 was amazing.

/thread

[AnsinJung]

They didn't rehire Mordin Solus's original VA for ME3.

That's just one way in which ME3 prioritized quantity over quality.

Others would include:  Multiplayer, not QA testing the ending, straight up lying about ABC endings, the giant squid chase side questing, the fetch side quests.  Seriously, I've played mini-games with more depth at homestarrunner.com

Even if you like ME3 (and believe me, I really wanted to, otherwise I would have waited for the price to drop, which I thought would take a year, not a month), I don't see how one can ignore its more rushed aspects.  I was fine with most of ME3 until the ending, but even on that first play, I felt the rushed-ness, even if I didn't explicitly tell myself it was.  Letting that Spacebar = roll and exit cover thing go live was a giant mistake and the biggest flaw in the otherwise much improved gameplay.

I actually get the whole artistic integrity thing, but it's hard to say Bioware actually cared after release DLC, endings that simply don't make sense, and rushing their would-be masterpiece, crowning achievement, etc.

[Memnon]

In my opinion, ME1 > ME2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ME3

Despite its flaws, ME1 is the game that got me hooked. ME2 was fun and entertaining, and ME3 ... well, yea ...

[Xamufam]

iggy4566 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Well duh, of course ME2 was better. Only a few WTF moments and breaks in logic ("Why are we all getting in a shuttle? I'm not going anywhere!' and "Why are the Council being morons? I thought they acknowledged the Reaper threat?"). However, the characters were top notch, the plot easily showed "This is how we will beat the Collectors and the Reapers after them" and left off with you feeling a badass.

ME2 also didn't decide to nullify most of ME1 and added lots of flavor to make your playthrough feel unique.

ME2 was everything a 2nd game should be.

not entirely true, it could have had a better main story. (the mainplot were better in ME1)
The side characters stories were awesome in that game, It's what kept the game intesting.

Things that ME2 improved
grapics
gameplay
side characters

Things That ME 1 did better
Main story
How you get the side character in relevance to the story
The RPG experience

[ElSuperGecko]

iggy4566 wrote...
ME2 did things right ME3 did not.

The final mission's a good example of this.  The Suicide Misison was everything Priorty: Earth wasn't, but should have been.