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[LiarasShield]

What if the reason harbinger was trying to create the human reaper was that their was another threat that wanted to extinquish organics that is why they were trying to build a more powerful reaper to confront it and that

The galaxy could choose to side with the reapers so that they could save the cycle from this new threat which would seek to destroy organics or the galaxy could confront the new threat on its own?

something more dangerous from darkspace

would this have been better?

[AresKeith]

probably not, but Drew's dark energy plot was only an outline not a full script

[Ozida]

We'll never know now...

[xsdob]

Ass pull to turn the reapers into the good guys, so basically the same thing.

Origianl choices for dark energy, from what I read, was a simple a or b, let humans get harested and sovle problem or refuse and figure it out on our own.

Yay, more choices that involve doing it the reapers way, either become a reaper or we'll refuse to help you and you'll need to kill us.

Modifié par xsdob, 16 septembre 2012 - 10:41 .

[KENNY4753]

xsdob wrote...

Ass pull to turn the reapers into the good guys, so basically the same thing.

+1

[LiarasShield]

AresKeith wrote...

probably not, but Drew's dark energy plot was only an outline not a full script

Well I'm wondering if that would've been implemented better and I am kinda sad that they took alot of their good writers off the team and sent them over to the old republic

[MegaSovereign]

Drew was planning to have a master AI who controlled the Reapers.

Drew was planning to have the Reapers motivations revealed at the last second for Shepard to decide how to deal with their problem.

That sounds a lot like how ME3 turned out.

[AresKeith]

LiarasShield wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

probably not, but Drew's dark energy plot was only an outline not a full script

Well I'm wondering if that would've been implemented better and I am kinda sad that they took alot of their good writers off the team and sent them over to the old republic

the endings shouldn't have been choices in the first place, thats part of the problem now

[LiarasShield]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Drew was planning to have a master AI who controlled the Reapers.

Drew was planning to have the Reapers motivations revealed at the last second for Shepard to decide how to deal with their problem.

That sounds a lot like how ME3 turned out.

Yes but wasn't drews original idea was for the catalyst using the reapers to confront a new threat from dark space and had something to do with the dark matter or dark energy that was talked about from talis mission from me2

But then got rewritten by casey hudson or mac?

[MegaSovereign]

www.strategyinformer.com/news/17086/mass-effect-writer-drew-karpyshyn-reveals-original-mass-effect-3-endings

The Dark Energy was a force that was going to consume everything. According to Karpyshyn, "The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of its genetic diversity and
represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread."

The original choice was between killing the Reapers and trying to find a way to stop the Dark Energy threat with
what little time was left before it consumed the galaxy, or, "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 16 septembre 2012 - 10:50 .

[LiarasShield]

MegaSovereign wrote...

www.strategyinformer.com/news/17086/mass-effect-writer-drew-karpyshyn-reveals-original-mass-effect-3-endings

The Dark Energy was a force that was going to consume everything. According to Karpyshyn, "The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of its genetic diversity and
represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread."

The original choice was between killing the Reapers and trying to find a way to stop the Dark Energy threat with
what little time was left before it consumed the galaxy, or, "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

basiclly kill the reapers and try to stop the dark energy threat or allow the reapers to destroy so that they may have a chance at stoping it hmm honestly I still see this as a better option then what we got but this would still be like flipping a coin

[MegaSovereign]

I don't see how that ending is any better.

[Someone With Mass]

Doubtful.

That version has too much "humens r speschul" and plenty of the final version's flaws.

[LiarasShield]

Sion1138 wrote...

Sure, if he had been the one to implement it.

I don't want to praise the guy too much, but I'll just say that all of the Mass Effect material he has been responsible for in the past was very much to my liking.

Mass Effect 1 and the novels. Whereas most of Mac's stuff gave me a headache. It's a matter of reputation.

Of course, that's just me.

Heck drews books on darth bane from the old republic were pretty good to ^^

[AresKeith]

LiarasShield wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

www.strategyinformer.com/news/17086/mass-effect-writer-drew-karpyshyn-reveals-original-mass-effect-3-endings

The Dark Energy was a force that was going to consume everything. According to Karpyshyn, "The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of its genetic diversity and
represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread."

The original choice was between killing the Reapers and trying to find a way to stop the Dark Energy threat with
what little time was left before it consumed the galaxy, or, "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

basiclly kill the reapers and try to stop the dark energy threat or allow the reapers to destroy so that they may have a chance at stoping it hmm honestly I still see this as a better option then what we got but this would still be like flipping a coin

but who would really sacrifice all of humanity

[LiarasShield]

AresKeith wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

www.strategyinformer.com/news/17086/mass-effect-writer-drew-karpyshyn-reveals-original-mass-effect-3-endings

The Dark Energy was a force that was going to consume everything. According to Karpyshyn, "The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of its genetic diversity and
represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread."

The original choice was between killing the Reapers and trying to find a way to stop the Dark Energy threat with
what little time was left before it consumed the galaxy, or, "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

basiclly kill the reapers and try to stop the dark energy threat or allow the reapers to destroy so that they may have a chance at stoping it hmm honestly I still see this as a better option then what we got but this would still be like flipping a coin

but who would really sacrifice all of humanity

If it is to save the galaxy would you not allow humanity to be destroyed or would you kill the reapers and then we all die from dark energy it sortive like the geth decision in destroy but instead of the geth it is just humanity

[Ozida]

AresKeith wrote...

But who would really sacrifice all of humanity

Me! I hate humans. And, after all, those choices would be worth replaying, wouldn't they?

Modifié par Ozida, 16 septembre 2012 - 10:59 .

[RyMann88]

Another problem with the franchise is how they set Shepard up. They built Shepard up as an Action Hero, who usually ends up surviving all odds (except in some circumstances) instead of a Tragic Hero who typically ends up sacrificing themselves for the greater good or lives long enough to see the end results, but dies shortly after.

[AresKeith]

wasn't there someone who always kept both Drew and Mac in line when it came the plot at Bioware but he left?

[LiarasShield]

AresKeith wrote...

wasn't there someone who always kept both Drew and Mac in line when it came the plot at Bioware but he left?

I don't know but I felt that drew was the one who kept stuff together I could be wrong

[Cobretti ftw]

If the cruciable was a giant machine gun that could shoot pandas, it would be better.


Its hard to make something WORSE then what we actually got.

[Mr.House]

I find it doubtful.More so with the quality of Drew work after Mass Effect.

Modifié par Mr.House, 16 septembre 2012 - 11:15 .

[AresKeith]

LiarasShield wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

wasn't there someone who always kept both Drew and Mac in line when it came the plot at Bioware but he left?

I don't know but I felt that drew was the one who kept stuff together I could be wrong

as much as I like Drew as a writer and I still feel Mac should have just stuck to writing Characters, they both went overboard with their endings

its was the Narrative director who kept them in check but left and went to Halo 4

[MegaSovereign]

You can make either tech singularity or dark energy work. It's all about the execution.