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[DPSSOC]

Xilizhra wrote...

That's good to hear. Do me a favor and keep an eye or two on Anders while you're out there. (He's not so big on the whole "don't kill innocent people" thing.)

I think he'll have less motivation to break it now, but we shall see.

Anders has never required motivation, only opportunity.  Did Anders have any reason to want Thrask dead?  Had Thrask done him any wrong or presented himself as anything other than a good man?  No, not at all.  Did Anders jump at the opportunity to kill him?  Oh yes.  If the opportunity arises to kill Templars Anders will take it, regardless of collateral damage or innocent bystanders.  If the Templars are kind enough to lay down their weapons that just makes it easier.

[LobselVith8]

DPSSOC wrote...

Anders has never required motivation, only opportunity.  Did Anders have any reason to want Thrask dead?  Had Thrask done him any wrong or presented himself as anything other than a good man?  No, not at all.  Did Anders jump at the opportunity to kill him?  Oh yes.  If the opportunity arises to kill Templars Anders will take it, regardless of collateral damage or innocent bystanders.  If the Templars are kind enough to lay down their weapons that just makes it easier.

Merrill distrusts Thrask at that point as well in Act I; Anders seemed pleasantly surprised with Thrask's templar and mage rebellion in Act III, and tries to talk Grace down.

[Shadow Fox]

LobselVith8 wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...

Anders has never required motivation, only opportunity.  Did Anders have any reason to want Thrask dead?  Had Thrask done him any wrong or presented himself as anything other than a good man?  No, not at all.  Did Anders jump at the opportunity to kill him?  Oh yes.  If the opportunity arises to kill Templars Anders will take it, regardless of collateral damage or innocent bystanders.  If the Templars are kind enough to lay down their weapons that just makes it easier.

Merrill distrusts Thrask at that point as well in Act I; Anders seemed pleasantly surprised with Thrask's templar and mage rebellion in Act III, and tries to talk Grace down.

Merril disaproves if you kill him hell Anders is the only companion who approves of it which made me lose alot of respect for him*not that I had much* considering he gives Merril crap for being a blood mage yet is all too willing to excuse Grace and her cohorts use of it and actually agree to kill a Templar for her in otherwords he's a massive hypocrite.

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 22 septembre 2012 - 03:23 .

[dragonflight288]

SomniariKess1124 wrote...

I kind of feel sorry for the mages in the end... with them being killed for someone else's crime. but one thing that just does not make sense is how a lyrium idol sword insantly turns you into a master jedi sith lord...

But if it does i totally want that sword... Me wanna be a jedi!

Didn't you hear? Meredith was kidnapped by Darth Revan and Darth Malak in her youth. They took her to the Star Forge and used the Foce to  erase her memory and change her very identity. Then they brought her back and forced that identity into the current Knight-Commander so that one THOUGHT she was Meredith.

[Xilizhra]

Unfortunately no person can be responsible for anyone else's redemption. What Hawke is responsible for, and to, are the people of Kirkwall. And those people have been savagely attacked by an insane abomination who, if let go, will only keep on killing. Stabbing Anders in the heart may be an imperfect solution, but letting him go is simply unconscionable.

It's not unconscionable; my own conscience is fine with it. Also, the templars are attacking the people of Kirkwall now, and I need everyone I can get to stop them.

Of course they would. But since mages need some form of external control, and I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate, I'm open to the idea.

After what's happened already? I think not. The Chantry will never get another chance.

Anders has never required motivation, only opportunity.  Did Anders have
any reason to want Thrask dead?  Had Thrask done him any wrong or
presented himself as anything other than a good man?  No, not at all. 
Did Anders jump at the opportunity to kill him?  Oh yes.  If the
opportunity arises to kill Templars Anders will take it, regardless of
collateral damage or innocent bystanders.  If the Templars are kind
enough to lay down their weapons that just makes it easier.

Ask yourself what you'd do with a polite SS officer asking aid to "peacefully" bring in some fugitives of some sort. This is Anders' perspective.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 22 septembre 2012 - 05:29 .

[Gallimatia]

Xilizhra wrote...

Actually, I think the Big Bad of Inquisitor kills off the Chantry leadership. But even assuming it was there, what good will it do now? The templars have already left and are trying to kill us all now; the Chantry's no longer a significant factor.

This is from the books I take it? Why are the templars doing this? What incentive do these rebel templars have to kill mages if it's not their job?

Modifié par Gallimatia, 22 septembre 2012 - 06:59 .

[Shadow Fox]

Xilizhra wrote...

Unfortunately no person can be responsible for anyone else's redemption. What Hawke is responsible for, and to, are the people of Kirkwall. And those people have been savagely attacked by an insane abomination who, if let go, will only keep on killing. Stabbing Anders in the heart may be an imperfect solution, but letting him go is simply unconscionable.

It's not unconscionable; my own conscience is fine with it. Also, the templars are attacking the people of Kirkwall now, and I need everyone I can get to stop them.

Of course they would. But since mages need some form of external control, and I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate, I'm open to the idea.

After what's happened already? I think not. The Chantry will never get another chance.

Anders has never required motivation, only opportunity.  Did Anders have
any reason to want Thrask dead?  Had Thrask done him any wrong or
presented himself as anything other than a good man?  No, not at all. 
Did Anders jump at the opportunity to kill him?  Oh yes.  If the
opportunity arises to kill Templars Anders will take it, regardless of
collateral damage or innocent bystanders.  If the Templars are kind
enough to lay down their weapons that just makes it easier.

Ask yourself what you'd do with a polite SS officer asking aid to "peacefully" bring in some fugitives of some sort. This is Anders' perspective.

They aren't attacking the people of Kirkwall just annuling the Circle.

And Anders proves himself to be no better than the Templars he claims to hate a knife in the back was the least he deserved for his actions. 

[Xilizhra]

They aren't attacking the people of Kirkwall just annuling the Circle.

Annulling the Circle is attacking the people of Kirkwall, committing genocide against a genetic group of the city's population.

And Anders proves himself to be no better than the Templars he claims to hate a knife in the back was the least he deserved for his actions.

Plenty of templars have done worse.

[Shadow Fox]

Xilizhra wrote...

They aren't attacking the people of Kirkwall just annuling the Circle.

Annulling the Circle is attacking the people of Kirkwall, committing genocide against a genetic group of the city's population.

And Anders proves himself to be no better than the Templars he claims to hate a knife in the back was the least he deserved for his actions.

Plenty of templars have done worse.

No it's eradicating a threat to the general populance.

So that makes what Anders did ok?The fact is Anders commited cold-blooded murder and threw a city into chaos for selfish reasons he deserves  to suffer for that death is too kind for him.

[Dave of Canada]

I'd have made Anders tranquil, simply for the science of seeing what would occur if you made an Abomination tranquil.

That and I'd eat popcorn with Varric as we watch the now-Tranquil Anders clean up his mess.

[General User]

Xilizhra wrote...

It's not unconscionable; my own conscience is fine with it. Also, the
templars are attacking the people of Kirkwall now, and I need everyone I
can get to stop them.

Fine?  Really?  Your conscience was fine with letting and insane murderer continue to wage war on the world?  No qualms or concerns or regrets at all? 

After what's happened already? I think not. The Chantry will never get another chance.

That's just silly.  Especially given the fact that one of the major flaws of the Circles was a distinct lack of Chantry oversight.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

General User's comments make some sense, listen to them you boshtets 

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd have made Anders tranquil, simply for the science of seeing what would occur if you made an Abomination tranquil.

That and I'd eat popcorn with Varric as we watch the now-Tranquil Anders clean up his mess.

lol I like this solution!

[Xilizhra]

No it's eradicating a threat to the general populance.

A falsified one.

So that makes what Anders did ok?The fact is Anders commited cold-blooded murder and threw a city into chaos for selfish reasons he deserves to suffer for that death is too kind for him.

I personally wouldn't have done what he did, but there are more important issues at hand. Bhelen is a vicious fratricidal thug, one willing to wipe out whole families on the offchance they could be problematic, but I still selected him as king because it would lead to the best outcome. You can't always afford to have all of your associates be of sparkling moral character.

Fine? Really? Your conscience was fine with letting and insane murderer continue to wage war on the world? No qualms or concerns or regrets at all?

The battlefield is a poor place for regret, and what we might talk about or argue about thereafter was offscreen. Whatever my thoughts are about Anders would only coalesce after the game ends, and I don't see what the stimuli might be.

That's just silly. Especially given the fact that one of the major flaws of the Circles was a distinct lack of Chantry oversight.

The templars were still the Chantry then, and their oversight was far too harsh. I did make a thread a ways down the pages in the story forum about my proposed solution, but before that can happen, we need to ensure that the templars will never be a threat to anyone again.

[LobselVith8]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Merrill disaproves if you kill him hell Anders is the only companion who approves of it which made me lose alot of respect for him*

Merrill doesn't give any disapproval if Hawke says he'll kill Thrask. You get 10 Friendship points from her if you say you'll kill Thrask. You get 5 Friendship points from Isabela.

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

not that I had much* considering he gives Merril crap for being a blood mage yet is all too willing to excuse Grace and her cohorts use of it and actually agree to kill a Templar for her in otherwords he's a massive hypocrite.

Anders doesn't think Grace and her cohorts should use blood magic (and blames them for attacking Hawke and his moiety crew in the first place), but he thinks they shouldn't be locked up in the Gallows.

[Lotion Soronarr]

SilverMoonDragon wrote...

Arch1eviathan wrote...

The Mages. You can't judge them all based on the atrocities commited by only a hand full of mages.

The Templars were way out of line in the end.

I concur!  

It's like Hawke says in DA2 "The Templars have been systematically abusing the Mages for centuries.", and this is true. There have been times of violence in the Mages that have cost innocent lives, however, the Templars have no one but themselves to blame for that. Their treatment of Mages has inevitably created problems they sought to avoid, it's a paradox. The way I see it, The Templars/Chantry have let fear of past events create un-necessary fear in the present. It is true, Mages are capable of horrible things (doesn't mean they'll do those things though), but uh...so are regular people! People who aren't Mages can do terrible things to,  the Templars logic is just stupid and fear driven. They say Mages must be in Circles for their "own good" and blah blah blah, but really it's just fancy wording for "We have to oppress you because we're afraid". Not all Templars are bad, this is obvious, and both sides have problems they need to try and work out without resorting to violence. In the end though, I always support Mages.

No. The templar solution keeps the mages in check.
Maybe more mages turn to blood magic or abominations because of the Circcles...mayybe. But as long as they are dealth with on the spot and dont' kill civilians, who cares? That is called culling the weak.

There is no unecessary fear. We have time and time again seen it proven so.
We have seen two Dalish clans - where mages are the leaders and treated with respect. And what good did it bring to them? Both clans suffered because of that.
MAaes are a danger ot themselves and everyone else. Period.
And while common folk can be dangerous, it cannot be compared to mages. Mages can cause vast devastation even with the best of intentions. They can hurt you even if they don't want to. They can tear the veil open and bring in more demons, effectively spreading the corruption like a plauge.

We saw Connor raise an entire army of undead. A single mage child.
We saw Zathrian bring two peoples to the brink of ruin.
We saw Uldred corrupting and killing. Thank heavens it was cointained in the tower - imagine if Uldred and his ilk roamed free

[Lotion Soronarr]

dragonflight288 wrote...

Benjamin Franklin: Anyone who chooses of their own will to sacrifice liberty in place of security inevitably loses both.

Benjamin Franklin eh? Never cared about that guy.
Neither do I place any value in his statement.

[Lotion Soronarr]

simfamSP wrote...
The Templars do not treat the Mages as the Mages want to be treated, and so they strike back doing the same things the Templar's are afraid of.

Yeah, I think that applies to everyone pretty much.
Just because you want something doesnt' mean you'll get it.

[DKJaigen]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

SilverMoonDragon wrote...

Arch1eviathan wrote...

The Mages. You can't judge them all based on the atrocities commited by only a hand full of mages.

The Templars were way out of line in the end.

I concur!  

It's like Hawke says in DA2 "The Templars have been systematically abusing the Mages for centuries.", and this is true. There have been times of violence in the Mages that have cost innocent lives, however, the Templars have no one but themselves to blame for that. Their treatment of Mages has inevitably created problems they sought to avoid, it's a paradox. The way I see it, The Templars/Chantry have let fear of past events create un-necessary fear in the present. It is true, Mages are capable of horrible things (doesn't mean they'll do those things though), but uh...so are regular people! People who aren't Mages can do terrible things to,  the Templars logic is just stupid and fear driven. They say Mages must be in Circles for their "own good" and blah blah blah, but really it's just fancy wording for "We have to oppress you because we're afraid". Not all Templars are bad, this is obvious, and both sides have problems they need to try and work out without resorting to violence. In the end though, I always support Mages.

No. The templar solution keeps the mages in check.
Maybe more mages turn to blood magic or abominations because of the Circcles...mayybe. But as long as they are dealth with on the spot and dont' kill civilians, who cares? That is called culling the weak.

There is no unecessary fear. We have time and time again seen it proven so.
We have seen two Dalish clans - where mages are the leaders and treated with respect. And what good did it bring to them? Both clans suffered because of that.
MAaes are a danger ot themselves and everyone else. Period.
And while common folk can be dangerous, it cannot be compared to mages. Mages can cause vast devastation even with the best of intentions. They can hurt you even if they don't want to. They can tear the veil open and bring in more demons, effectively spreading the corruption like a plauge.

We saw Connor raise an entire army of undead. A single mage child.
We saw Zathrian bring two peoples to the brink of ruin.
We saw Uldred corrupting and killing. Thank heavens it was cointained in the tower - imagine if Uldred and his ilk roamed free

It only shows to me that circle mages are being poorly trained by the chantry. Neither the tevinter imperium or the dalish have rampant amount of abominations running around. and i havent seen any problems with the barbarians either. So the templars are endangering other people because they dont allows magic to evolve which we can seen in the book: the sundering. Which is logical because their are several magical disicplines like shapeshifting and bloodmagic that ingnores the templars anti magical abilities. For the good of thedas its better that the templar order dies  before more innocent peope are being hurt by poorly trained mages. 

[Lotion Soronarr]

DKJaigen wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
No. The templar solution keeps the mages in check.
Maybe more mages turn to blood magic or abominations because of the Circcles...mayybe. But as long as they are dealth with on the spot and dont' kill civilians, who cares? That is called culling the weak.

There is no unecessary fear. We have time and time again seen it proven so.
We have seen two Dalish clans - where mages are the leaders and treated with respect. And what good did it bring to them? Both clans suffered because of that.
MAaes are a danger ot themselves and everyone else. Period.
And while common folk can be dangerous, it cannot be compared to mages. Mages can cause vast devastation even with the best of intentions. They can hurt you even if they don't want to. They can tear the veil open and bring in more demons, effectively spreading the corruption like a plauge.

We saw Connor raise an entire army of undead. A single mage child.
We saw Zathrian bring two peoples to the brink of ruin.
We saw Uldred corrupting and killing. Thank heavens it was cointained in the tower - imagine if Uldred and his ilk roamed free

It only shows to me that circle mages are being poorly trained by the chantry. Neither the tevinter imperium or the dalish have rampant amount of abominations running around. and i havent seen any problems with the barbarians either. So the templars are endangering other people because they dont allows magic to evolve which we can seen in the book: the sundering. Which is logical because their are several magical disicplines like shapeshifting and bloodmagic that ingnores the templars anti magical abilities. For the good of thedas its better that the templar order dies  before more innocent peope are being hurt by poorly trained mages. 

You haven't seen many dalish abominations rampaging around? You didnt see problems with the barbarians?
Well, given that the game doens't evne take you to explore those two AND that they are roaming, clan-based societies with a handfull of mages it doesn't come offas a surprise.

We DID see mages almost ruin TWO dalish clans. You think the loss of two clans is nothing? Mind you that's 100% mage problem among the dalish we've seen.Templars don't allow magic to "evolve" and THAT is endangering people?
What nonsense.
Mages are endagering people.
That is undeniable pattern.
No matter how they are treated (Dalish Keepers). No matter how they are trained (Uldred, Methahari). Mages keep causing trouble and destruction around them. For the safety of everyone they should be locked up. All of them.

[Arch1eviathan]

They tried locking them all up and look what happened? Mages like Anders escape and become so bitter with there oppressed life so they do something like completely annihilate the chantray and start a revolution. No, the events of dragon age 2 proves what a horrible idea that is.

[DPSSOC]

Xilizhra wrote...

Anders has never required motivation, only opportunity.  Did Anders have
any reason to want Thrask dead?  Had Thrask done him any wrong or
presented himself as anything other than a good man?  No, not at all. 
Did Anders jump at the opportunity to kill him?  Oh yes.  If the
opportunity arises to kill Templars Anders will take it, regardless of
collateral damage or innocent bystanders.  If the Templars are kind
enough to lay down their weapons that just makes it easier.

Ask yourself what you'd do with a polite SS officer asking aid to "peacefully" bring in some fugitives of some sort. This is Anders' perspective.

I'd probably help, peacefully brining in fugitives is vastly better than violently brining in fugitives.  You seem to forget that Anders has gone out of his way, pretty much his entire life, to make the Templars his problem.  He had problems with them in the Circle because he constantly tried to escape, and he had trouble with them in Kirkwall because he actively opposed them.  His perspective on the Templars is about as relevant as that of a career gang member on the police, which is to say not at all.

Still I get Anders not wanting to help Thrask, but he's the only one who comes across as eager to kill him.  When you've cornered a group of criminals who just tried to kill and they ask you to kill somebody I generally don't trust the guy going "Yeah let's kill him!" 

Arch1eviathan wrote...
They tried locking them all up and look what happened? Mages like Anders escape and become so bitter with there oppressed life so they do something like completely annihilate the chantray and start a revolution. No, the events of dragon age 2 proves what a horrible idea that is.

To be fair Anders didn't escape he was let out. Who wants to bet that every nation in Thedas is reconsidering the Right to Conscription? Also Anders didn't become bitter he became possessed, which is kind of what the Templars/Chanty are worried about so really Anders proves that mages need to be locked away because if they're let out they become possessed and DA2 happens.

[DKJaigen]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

DKJaigen wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
No. The templar solution keeps the mages in check.
Maybe more mages turn to blood magic or abominations because of the Circcles...mayybe. But as long as they are dealth with on the spot and dont' kill civilians, who cares? That is called culling the weak.

There is no unecessary fear. We have time and time again seen it proven so.
We have seen two Dalish clans - where mages are the leaders and treated with respect. And what good did it bring to them? Both clans suffered because of that.
MAaes are a danger ot themselves and everyone else. Period.
And while common folk can be dangerous, it cannot be compared to mages. Mages can cause vast devastation even with the best of intentions. They can hurt you even if they don't want to. They can tear the veil open and bring in more demons, effectively spreading the corruption like a plauge.

We saw Connor raise an entire army of undead. A single mage child.
We saw Zathrian bring two peoples to the brink of ruin.
We saw Uldred corrupting and killing. Thank heavens it was cointained in the tower - imagine if Uldred and his ilk roamed free

It only shows to me that circle mages are being poorly trained by the chantry. Neither the tevinter imperium or the dalish have rampant amount of abominations running around. and i havent seen any problems with the barbarians either. So the templars are endangering other people because they dont allows magic to evolve which we can seen in the book: the sundering. Which is logical because their are several magical disicplines like shapeshifting and bloodmagic that ingnores the templars anti magical abilities. For the good of thedas its better that the templar order dies  before more innocent peope are being hurt by poorly trained mages. 

You haven't seen many dalish abominations rampaging around? You didnt see problems with the barbarians?
Well, given that the game doens't evne take you to explore those two AND that they are roaming, clan-based societies with a handfull of mages it doesn't come offas a surprise.

We DID see mages almost ruin TWO dalish clans. You think the loss of two clans is nothing? Mind you that's 100% mage problem among the dalish we've seen.Templars don't allow magic to "evolve" and THAT is endangering people?
What nonsense.
Mages are endagering people.
That is undeniable pattern.
No matter how they are treated (Dalish Keepers). No matter how they are trained (Uldred, Methahari). Mages keep causing trouble and destruction around them. For the safety of everyone they should be locked up. All of them.

Thats people killing other people. magic may have aggravated the situation but magic is not to blame in these cases. Oh btw normal people are just as fond of causing trouble and destruction around them. 1 mundane may not accomplish as much. But their is quality in quanity and many mundanes can cause far more damage then the mages.  But im not suggesting that we should destroy the bulk of the mundanes now am i?

Oh btw that thedas chantry states do not evolve their magic is actually a rather big thing because neither the tevinter imperium , darkspawn and qunari dont give a **** and are imroving on their abilities. The templars are signing the death warrant of humanity. In the world where genocide can happen your silly concern about a few normal people is hardly relevant. Either you master magic or you will succumb to people who will master it.

And as such the templars have no chance at all in the coming war. either the mages destroy them or outside forces will.

[DPSSOC]

DKJaigen wrote...
Thats people killing other people. magic may have aggravated the situation but magic is not to blame in these cases. Oh btw normal people are just as fond of causing trouble and destruction around them. 1 mundane may not accomplish as much. But their is quality in quanity and many mundanes can cause far more damage then the mages.  But im not suggesting that we should destroy the bulk of the mundanes now am i?

Ok this brings something up I really don't like about these discussions.  Always when faced with how dangerous mages are, the pro-mages point out how a group of people, or single person of influence in control of many people, can be just as dangerous.  Here's the problem, such comparissons aren't fair.

Let's look at it this way, your neighbour keeps 20 sticks of dynamite in his shed, when approached about the fact that just keeping dynamite lying around in a shed is dangerous and that he should get rid of it he responds that 200 thousand butane lighters would be just as dangerous but people aren't bothered about lighters just lying around.

When debating destructive potential and assessing risk you must, absolutely must, deal in equal numbers and circumstances.  You cannot compare an average mage to a group or a noble, it's not equal.  You would need to compare one average mage to one average person.  If you wanted you could argue comparing one mage to a proportionate population of normal people (1 mage is x% of mage population so compare to a group that is x% of normal population), but without accurate numbers on either side that's impossible to determine, and again you couldn't count noble because of the disparate circumstances.

DKJaigen wrote...
Oh btw that thedas chantry states do not evolve their magic is actually a rather big thing because neither the tevinter imperium , darkspawn and qunari dont give a **** and are imroving on their abilities. The templars are signing the death warrant of humanity. In the world where genocide can happen your silly concern about a few normal people is hardly relevant. Either you master magic or you will succumb to people who will master it.

And as such the templars have no chance at all in the coming war. either the mages destroy them or outside forces will.

 
The Qunari have all but abandoned magic favouring advancements in technology, no reason Thedas couldn't do the same if they had to.  Also to say that magic in Thedas hasn't evolved is being disingenuous, magical research and progress still happens it's just heavily controlled because things can go very wrong.

[DKJaigen]

DPSSOC wrote...

Ok this brings something up I really don't like about these discussions.  Always when faced with how dangerous mages are, the pro-mages point out how a group of people, or single person of influence in control of many people, can be just as dangerous.  Here's the problem, such comparissons aren't fair.

Let's look at it this way, your neighbour keeps 20 sticks of dynamite in his shed, when approached about the fact that just keeping dynamite lying around in a shed is dangerous and that he should get rid of it he responds that 200 thousand butane lighters would be just as dangerous but people aren't bothered about lighters just lying around.

When debating destructive potential and assessing risk you must, absolutely must, deal in equal numbers and circumstances.  You cannot compare an average mage to a group or a noble, it's not equal.  You would need to compare one average mage to one average person.  If you wanted you could argue comparing one mage to a proportionate population of normal people (1 mage is x% of mage population so compare to a group that is x% of normal population), but without accurate numbers on either side that's impossible to determine, and again you couldn't count noble because of the disparate circumstances.

I dont give a damn if someone is dangerous or not. The only thing i care about is why and how they use their abilties.

DPSSOC wrote...
 
The Qunari have all but abandoned magic favouring advancements in technology, no reason Thedas couldn't do the same if they had to.  Also to say that magic in Thedas hasn't evolved is being disingenuous, magical research and progress still happens it's just heavily controlled because things can go very wrong.

Nice! when templar supporters cannot counter an argument they pull facts out of their ass. And i like you to remember that the more advanced qunari tech could only be defeated by magic. If they advance in tech its just as dangerous. But the truth is however that we dont know how much the qunari advanced. We do know that the Tevinter imperium is improving on its magic and the darkspawn are growing intelligent. And that last fact should make the chantry go :omgwtfbbq but as always they just ignore the very dangerous opponent.  The darkspawn are a magical opponent that can only be fought through the use of magic. Regardless of the dangers magic research needs to be sped up. If the mages cannot find a permant solution to the darkspawn then all life is in danger.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Arch1eviathan wrote...

They tried locking them all up and look what happened? Mages like Anders escape and become so bitter with there oppressed life so they do something like completely annihilate the chantray and start a revolution. No, the events of dragon age 2 proves what a horrible idea that is.

So? Mages go nutters all the time anyway. They are quite capable of killing you and your village over something trivial wihout any additional templar motivation.
Whats one more?

Anders managed to escape the Circle only because of the Wardens.
The Circles work as intended - they keep (most of) the mage threat contained.
Not every mage - those hedge mages and the few that manage to escape are a problem to be dealth with - but most of it.

As such, the coutnryside is safer for everyone. The world is safer.
So what if the mages rebel? Crush their rebelion and move on. So maybe a thousand years after there will be another one? So what?
It's not different than a prison riot. That doesn't make the system "broken".