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[Pseron Wyrd]

Taritu wrote...
The voice acting on her was so strong that I had a real sense of who my character was right off the bat.

I began playing Mass Effect for the first time yesterday and I made a female Shepard. And I have to agree: the voice acting is terrific. I don't know how it is with the male Shepard but the female Shepard's voice just makes that character come alive for me. It's perfect. It's absolutely pefect. I wish actors in movies were this good, lol.

I'm beginning to understand for the first time why some people miss hearing the player character speak in Dragon Age.

Modifié par Pseron Wyrd, 27 décembre 2009 - 11:12 .

[bjdbwea]

Mass Effect >  Dragon Age : Origins.

Mass Effect is indeed much better in my opinion. The combat system isn't the strongest point in either game. But for the rest of the game, I really think Mass Effect points the way to (hopefully) the next generation of video gaming. The perfectly voiced PC that really plays her/his role in the plot, and plays the role like YOU want, is simply amazing. And I for one think the dialogue system works very well too. Unlike DA, most of your choices really make a difference in NPC responses and the outcome of the conversation.

ME story and presentation are much better as well in my opinion. And the graphics look better, as do the animations. Especially the latter look very realistic, much better than in DA. The facial animations needed work in both games, but hopefully that'll be better in ME 2. It's the only game I look forward to next year, and probably the only one I'll buy early.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 27 décembre 2009 - 11:34 .

[Few87]

Mass Effect is a brill game, it has an awesome story, which is its best attribute. The graphics are wonderful, on the pc anyway, and the dialogue system was very nicely done. However, Dragonage is the better game in my opinion as the world they have created, although it is not deeper than the mass effect universe, I found to be far more interesting. The range of people you could be is far greater than the one of two in mass effect and the fact that your character doesnt actually speak does add to the immersion.



The combat system of Dragonage is more fun as you can dance around with daggers!



Having said that ill just add that I think the mass effect universe is by far and away the most realistic sci-fi universe ever created.



Dragonage is still better though and we all know it...

[guru7892]

I like sci-fi so ME. Magic in rpgs has always bother'd me; it never goes into enough detail for me.



biotics is still a little magic-y for me but its also kinda like psionics...



I like DAO; but its just a style and game experince thing that doesn't fit with the paradigm I prefer.

[Genesis Rhaparados]

Dragon age definitely..sure the graphics of ME is better i prefer games with swords...

and u can play it longer..

[Pocketgb]

Personally I found a bit more longevity in the combat in ME. While both games have a few rough edges to the game mechanics, ME1 felt a bit more polished: classes were varied and you really knew what you would be developing for.



Graphics wise, ME bar none. DA really feels aged in quite a few areas.



But DA's romances and party member relations was bar-none better than ME1, though, even with the gift system. Pretty sure they're taking it and putting it into ME2, hopefully along with more developed characters.



All in all, what it's ultimately going to come down to is if you like Sci Fi or Fantasy.

[Aldandil]

It's all about apples and pears, and as we all know, apples are better! Therefore, DA:O > ME

[XOGHunter246]

I think ME2 should have better relationship with characters when talking with them I also think it would not hurt to make them able to hate/like you. If they hate you theres a risk of losing them like in DAO.
The graphics in ME2 are covered I think I also hope you can move individual characters in ME2 instead of having to move both of them at same time like in ME1 that would add bit more tactical play in combat.
I basically want some things DAO had included in ME2 not saying add all stuff that was in DAO just some.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 27 décembre 2009 - 03:03 .

[interesting03]

Dragon Age, because the pc doesn't speak. The speaking in Mass Effect seems unnatural with the long decision pauses and the accent irks me to no end.

[AntiChri5]

The Angry One wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

all shepards are equal

However, some Shepards are more equal than others.

Like I said, fangirl.
I don't have anything against ManShep really. I just find Mark Meers rather dull, and Hale brilliant. Just my opinion of course.
What I utterly can't stand it the default character plastered all over Mass Effect's media. Words can't describe how I utterly LOATHE that face, it's one of those faces I just want to punch over and over till all that's left is a bloody head sized meatball.
Or to put it another way, when I think "tough space marine" the first thing to come to mind is not "prancing Dutch male model from the 1980's".

Theres always photoshop if you want your Femshep all over those promos. And im sure Skellimancer could give you some tips on how to do horrible things to a game character.

[Few87]

interesting03 wrote...

Dragon Age, because the pc doesn't speak. The speaking in Mass Effect seems unnatural with the long decision pauses and the accent irks me to no end.

I felt the same way. Not trying to be offensive to americans but it is an awfully infuriating accent and it does spoil dragonage a little. Probably best if i start playing in french, thank god i got it on steam!

[AntiChri5]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

I think ME2 should have better relationship with characters when talking with them I also think it would not hurt to make them able to hate/like you. If they hate you theres a risk of losing them like in DAO.
The graphics in ME2 are covered I think I also hope you can move individual characters in ME2 instead of having to move both of them at same time like in ME1 that would add bit more tactical play in combat.
I basically want some things DAO had included in ME2 not saying add all stuff that was in DAO just some.

All of that is included

[Ryukahn]

I like Dragon Age a lot more than Mass Effect (especially the combat), so I hope ME2 takes several of the best things about DA and uses them.

[Toranilor]

If you're talking about the games themselves, and not their respective IP's, I would go for Dragon Age because the combat is far more entertaining, and I clocked over 100 hours in about 1/3 the time for DA than I did in ME. Also, DA has far more in-depth character development.

However, considering IP's, the Mass Effect franchise has the added bonus of a continued storyline throughout multiple games, as opposed to Dragon Age, which will only be able to continue the lore, or connect to the original game via unanswered questions the player had no influence on.

Modifié par Toranilor, 27 décembre 2009 - 11:08 .

[XOGHunter246]

AntiChri5 wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

I think ME2 should have better relationship with characters when talking with them I also think it would not hurt to make them able to hate/like you. If they hate you theres a risk of losing them like in DAO.
The graphics in ME2 are covered I think I also hope you can move individual characters in ME2 instead of having to move both of them at same time like in ME1 that would add bit more tactical play in combat.
I basically want some things DAO had included in ME2 not saying add all stuff that was in DAO just some.

All of that is included

Did not notice any major effect of what i did with companions they still spoke to me same way whatever action i did in ME1. Also you have to move both of them together as you can't select one at a time as you cannot use anyone but Shepard in combat the other two move together. If you could move individually then you place characters with low def away from mobs to sniper Garrus is a example.
Do you mean it all included in ME2? if thats the case that is good.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 28 décembre 2009 - 12:50 .

[homedog 100000]

Dragon Age ftw

[ioannisdenton]

i choose dragon age over mass effect anytime but that doesn mean in NO way that mass effect isn t still one of the best games out there. Also one thing that ME does better is that sheppard is SO damn cool and his fixed personality tops that of real actors.

[statefn8603]

krisj451 wrote...

I own every game they've made since Baldur's Gate - of course.

Ditto.

[Merci357]

I like both games, I'm more fond of fantasy settings and the tactical combat of DA, but there's one thing I prefer in ME - my Sheppard speaks... I understand why it's not in DA - likely 6 different voice actors needed, maybe 4 if you argue elfes and humans sound similar enough... but the game is way larger compared to ME. Though I miss it... I'll pray DA is going to be a huge success, maybe the budget for DA2 will allow for voice acting of the main character again.

That said, I own all Bioware games since BG, and I can't wait for ME2

Modifié par Merci357, 28 décembre 2009 - 03:33 .

[spernus]

SuperD-710 wrote...

With no offense intended at all, I can't help but feel the ME series was made by the B team. ME1, while a great game and I loved it, is just not up to par with some of BioWare's previous games.

On the contrary,I feel Dragon Age has been designed by the B team.

Outdated graphics
Can't even drop quests...
lack of loots,monsters
mediocre art design

Mass effect was better designed in most ways,but it was lacking from a sidequest perspective and Bioware was clueless when it came to designing a shooter.Dragon age does have more content,but that should be no surprise when the game has been in development for 5-6 years versus 3 for Mass effect.

Look at the huge improvement in Mass effect 2 and you know it's the A team working on that title.Dragon age has been losing the rpg(even game of the year) of the year award to a super niche jrpg like Demon's soul,while Mass effect 2 should easily end up being the rpg of 2010 and among the game of the year.

[AntiChri5]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

I think ME2 should have better relationship with characters when talking with them I also think it would not hurt to make them able to hate/like you. If they hate you theres a risk of losing them like in DAO.
The graphics in ME2 are covered I think I also hope you can move individual characters in ME2 instead of having to move both of them at same time like in ME1 that would add bit more tactical play in combat.
I basically want some things DAO had included in ME2 not saying add all stuff that was in DAO just some.

All of that is included

Did not notice any major effect of what i did with companions they still spoke to me same way whatever action i did in ME1. Also you have to move both of them together as you can't select one at a time as you cannot use anyone but Shepard in combat the other two move together. If you could move individually then you place characters with low def away from mobs to sniper Garrus is a example.
Do you mean it all included in ME2? if thats the case that is good.

Yeah i meant ME2. Sorry for the ambiguity. In ME2 it is possible for eveyone to die if you dont make the right decisions and build up their loyalty

[mmu1]

Dragon Age finally made me appreciate Mass Effect properly.

When I first played Mass Effect, I thought it was a very good game, but I ended up feeling disappointed with what I thought were really bland and simplistic side-quests. I wished they had 1/3rd as many "uncharted worlds" to explore, but put more effort into each one, and eventually, I ended up resenting it a bit.

...then Dragon Age came along, and man, what a letdown that turned out to be. A good but not terribly original story, a decent but completely unexceptional engine and art design, virtually no side quests worth mentioning, and an awful RPG system with tedious, grinding combat. It's not that it's a BAD game (the origins, the solid storytelling and some great characters keep it going despite some huge faults) - it's just the most disappointing one I've played (and actually fnished) in a very long time.

I started to replay the PC version of Mass Effect over Christmas (I finished the 360 version before, but I want a PC save to transfer over to ME2), and really, all the flaws tend to fade into the background now.

What was once an uninspired side quest involving bouncing around a few planets, going into bunkers to kill some stuff and a few lines of conversation with NPCs (at best) now feels positively luxurious, after playing through side "quests" involving walking 50 feet beyond the edge of town to kill a group of bandits just standing there, and then returning to a message board.

Things that seemed needlessly repetitive before - like the sections of main story planets where you just drive the Mako and kill stuff to get to a new area  - now seem fast paced and fun, after the incredibly grindy and boring DAO dungeons.

Now I just have to be careful not to get too excited over Mass Effect 2... I figure if I keep my expectations low enough, thanks to DAO, I'll probably enjoy ME2 a lot more in the end.

Modifié par mmu1, 28 décembre 2009 - 04:21 .

[Zenon]

While ME is an awsome game, with some moments, that moved me somehow more than in DA:O, I feel DA:O is in many aspects more advanced and polished than ME. Also it is easier to let sleek steel and plastic walls look cool, than rather rough medieval walls.



Concerning the presentation, ME was intended to deliver more of a cinematic experience, while DA:O is much more geared towards classical RPG. Concerning graphics it would be more fair to compare DA:O to NWN2, than ME. While DA:O has some textures, which appear a bit blurry especially in close-up with a bigger screen and resolution, the overall graphics is good. Especially the animations and facial expressions are well made and are much better than in most other RPGs. I played the demos of Drakensang and Risen, which honestly felt like the movements during conversations or walking seem like a wooden puppet instead of human. The animations of the bodies and faces in DA:O are so much better, that I feel not really like playing those other games. Interesting enough, I'd prefer NWN with no facial animations to bad facial animations. Certainly in ME Bioware already set the reference class for these animations a few years ago. While sensational then, it was more state-of-art in DA:O. I mean to say that people tend to expect more perhaps, while it is already great and often outclasses many other quite good products of competitors.



According to the previews Bioware will have improved every area of the game in ME2, action, character interaction, graphics, side-quests, etc. I'm very much looking forward to it, after I got blown away by ME. Still, concerning character interaction and moral system DA:O is much more advanced than ME(1).

[XOGHunter246]

Well I think as I heard ME2 has improved character interaction, grapics, even the combat looks better and choices which could have a major effect on your companions. I will be expecting the next DAO game to have improved graphics, more loot so on.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 28 décembre 2009 - 12:19 .

[SAS_CAPTAIN_SOAP]

Mass Effect > Dragon Age. For one reason, Mass Effect and Dragon Age: Origins, about as close as you get, neck and neck in my opinion. Mass Effect 2 greatest game of our generation. Dragon Age 2, biggest letdown and worst game in Biowares inventory.