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[Ciryx]

€dit: Just read the FAQ if you are interested in Engines.

Modifié par Ciryx, 13 octobre 2012 - 01:06 .

[ScepticMatt]

Bye bye Eclipse engine, you will not be missed.
I'm glad that they settled with Frostbite 2 which I suggested for a long time.

[marshalleck]

ScepticMatt wrote...

Bye bye Eclipse engine, you will not be missed.
I'm glad that they settled with Frostbite 2 which I suggested for a long time.

Somewhere in Singapore, Georg Zoeller just shed a tear.

[Lennard Testarossa]

All in all, I'm happy they're using a better engine. Only thing that bothers me is that this might mean they're planning to include MP.

[deuce985]

I'm interested to know if the ME team is putting programmers on this engine with the DA team? Since their project is likely a few years away. It makes sense they'd help on the engine and Bioware make this their new internal engine for all their games? That way the ME team doesn't have to rely on Epic's Unreal?

[SpEcIaLRyAn]

Graphics to me are second to the gameplay and story. Although some nice visuals couldn't hurt. I wonder will they'll be new conversation animations? maybe some taken from ME3?

[marshalleck]

Lennard Testarossa wrote...

All in all, I'm happy they're using a better engine. Only thing that bothers me is that this might mean they're planning to include MP.

It worked well for Mass Effect 3. Some might say the multiplayer mode is the game's saving grace keeping it from uninstallation or trade-in. 

[Seboist]

marshalleck wrote...

Lennard Testarossa wrote...

All in all, I'm happy they're using a better engine. Only thing that bothers me is that this might mean they're planning to include MP.

It worked well for Mass Effect 3. Some might say the multiplayer mode is the game's saving grace keeping it from uninstallation or trade-in. 

I can vouch for that notion.

[OfficerDonNZ]

Well the MP conponant to ME3 didn't do anying fior me and I didn't keep the game once I got through the game once (I still have nightmares about the crappy endings)

So can't say I'm overjoyed with the prospect of DA3 having MP as well. ::sudders::

[Robin2852]

marshalleck wrote...
 It worked well for Mass Effect 3. Some might say the multiplayer mode is the game's saving grace keeping it from uninstallation or trade-in. 

Huh , some might say, it was a cheap, badly made, tacked on additions, used for the only purpose of getting people to buy their crappy microtransaction boxes, and it's addition to the game, cheapened the game overall.

Something, i would loathe to happen to DA3(though DA2 hasn't set thebar high) 

[SpEcIaLRyAn]

Robin2852 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...
 It worked well for Mass Effect 3. Some might say the multiplayer mode is the game's saving grace keeping it from uninstallation or trade-in. 

Huh , some might say, it was a cheap, badly made, tacked on additions, used for the only purpose of getting people to buy their crappy microtransaction boxes, and it's addition to the game, cheapened the game overall.

Something, i would loathe to happen to DA3(though DA2 hasn't set thebar high) 

I agree. However to me ME3s multiplayer didn't really take anything away but it didn't add anything either. So I think its okay too have some with your firends every now and than but I agree Mass Effect should stay singleplayer.

I hope DA3 doesn't do this. A PVP thing would be okay but that'd be as far as i'd except. I don't know how the engine would handle Dragon Age online though. Hopefuly we don't have to find out.

[upsettingshorts]

Robin2852 wrote...
Huh , some might say, it was a cheap, badly made, tacked on additions, used for the only purpose of getting people to buy their crappy microtransaction boxes, and it's addition to the game, cheapened the game overall.

Something, i would loathe to happen to DA3(though DA2 hasn't set thebar high) 

These "some" are in the minority, and their conclusions are based on nothing more beyond confirmation bias and meaningless non-statements like "it cheapened the game overall."

Fact is, ME3's multiplayer was both well-received and successful.  Many (not some) play it and enjoy it.

In any case, DA is a different team and it's a different game.  Hating on or loving an alleged multiplayer component whose details are completely unknown to anyone commenting is complete foolishness.  Having reached a conclusion now, before any facts as to the nature of any DA3 multiplayer are released, reveals that critics of MP don't actually care what the MP is like, they're just anti-MP idealogues.  The rest of us will wait and see.

SpEcIaLRyAn wrote...

it didn't add anything either.

Tell that to all the people playing it?

I don't play ME3 multiplayer but geez you guys have no idea how popular it is, do you?  Or do you not even care?

They keep rolling out free multiplayer content packs all the time.  They wouldn't be making money off of it if a lot of people weren't interested.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 16 octobre 2012 - 05:11 .

[Maria Caliban]

Robin2852 wrote...

Huh , some might say, it was a cheap, badly made, tacked on additions, used for the only purpose of getting people to buy their crappy microtransaction boxes, and it's addition to the game, cheapened the game overall.

Something, i would loathe to happen to DA3(though DA2 hasn't set thebar high) 

Please give me their names, so I know to disregard their inane opinions in the future.

[Allan Schumacher]

The best example I always use to show how engines can be modified is that Civilization IV uses the same engine as Oblivion.

[upsettingshorts]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

The best example I always use to show how engines can be modified is that Civilization IV uses the same engine as Oblivion.

I usually go with Oblivion (realism, predominantly first person) and Sid Meier's Pirates! (a bit cartoony, stylized, predominantly third person or map-based) just to demonstrate that the engine not only has little to do with the genre of game, but also the art style.  But yeah, Gamebryo is everywhere.

But yeah, I think part of the rigid association Frostbite 2 has with FPS games is simply that it's relatively new and it's mostly been used by FPSes so far.  Once the C&C game, Need For Speed, and DA3 have been out for a while I imagine that perception might change.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 16 octobre 2012 - 05:47 .

[axl99]

Man... I've worked with Gamebryo. Probably one of the more annoying engines I've had to wrangle. But I'm pretty sure there's worse.

[hoorayforicecream]

I think the biggest transition I've worked on was using an engine built for an extreme skiing sports game to make a Road Rash-style motorcycle racing and combat game. That was pretty wacky.

[upsettingshorts]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I think the biggest transition I've worked on was using an engine built for an extreme skiing sports game to make a Road Rash-style motorcycle racing and combat game. That was pretty wacky.

...now I'm nostalgic for Road Rash.  

[demont0]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
but geez you guys have no idea how popular it is, do you?  Or do you not even care?

Because popular = good, right?

I heard Justin Bieber concerts are still selling out...

[hoorayforicecream]

demont0 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
but geez you guys have no idea how popular it is, do you?  Or do you not even care?

Because popular = good, right?

I heard Justin Bieber concerts are still selling out...

When you say things like this, it makes you sound like you think your opinion (or at least the opinion of a select group) is more important than that of others. It might be to you, but I doubt that Bioware agrees with your assessment. I certainly don't.

[upsettingshorts]

demont0 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
but geez you guys have no idea how popular it is, do you?  Or do you not even care?

Because popular = good, right?

I heard Justin Bieber concerts are still selling out...

Popular does not equal good.  Popular equals popular. 

Critical success tends to point to good, and ME3's multiplayer was critically well-received.  Often begrudgingly, acknowledging pre-release qualms were in error.

"I don't like it" on the other hand does not equal unpopular, nor does it equal objectively bad.  To presume otherwise is the definition of arrogance.  But it's the only thing critics in this thread and elsewhere base their arguments on.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 16 octobre 2012 - 06:43 .

[Beerfish]

Robin2852 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...
 It worked well for Mass Effect 3. Some might say the multiplayer mode is the game's saving grace keeping it from uninstallation or trade-in. 

Huh , some might say, it was a cheap, badly made, tacked on additions, used for the only purpose of getting people to buy their crappy microtransaction boxes, and it's addition to the game, cheapened the game overall.

Something, i would loathe to happen to DA3(though DA2 hasn't set thebar high) 

Hilarious, and very very wrong.  Your post oozes of an agenda rather than a well thought out logical stance that it is not worth replying to....an here we are replying to it for some reason.

[Beerfish]

demont0 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
but geez you guys have no idea how popular it is, do you?  Or do you not even care?

Because popular = good, right?

I heard Justin Bieber concerts are still selling out...

Yes popular does = good.  It is the very defintion of good.  Whether you or I or the cat thinks it's good doesn't matter at all.  Justin Bieber is very good, his fans obvioulsy love the guy and his music.  Whether I think he is bad or not does not lessen what other people feel about him.