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[RVNX]

excited to learn more!!! hope DA3 is better than DA2!!

[upsettingshorts]

Malsumis wrote...

I'll bet it's an A-RPG. Might even have a touch of open world.

By BioWare's own terminology, every game they've ever made is an "action RPG."

It's a marketing term.  It's basically coded speech for, "An RPG, but cool" aimed at people who think standard RPGs are boring.  

Ask any ten people on the BSN what an action RPG is and you'll get ten definitions.   Some, in contrast to the use in marketing, use it as a pejorative to imply the game is simple or dumb.

There's little consistent differentiation between action RPGs and their standard cousins.

[k177sh0t]

 

A great story with choices that matter

Somehow this sounds quite familiar

Caution is what I feel

edit: Can't wait for the overblown marketing/pr

Modifié par k177sh0t, 17 septembre 2012 - 04:15 .

[Sandy]

I just want to add my excitement to the collective that DA3:I is finally announced! This new engine sounds like it could be cool, especially with added customization for characters.

[jaikss]

Val royeaux with bf3(+) graphics?That...could be good.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Atakuma wrote...

They aren't making an A-RPG and there never was controller support.

BioWare has actually claimed that DAO was an A-RPG, so their definition seems pretty broad.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

I can't wait. I'm going to make space on my shelf tonight.

[MerinTB]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
By BioWare's own terminology, every game they've ever made is an "action RPG."

It's a marketing term.  It's basically coded speech for, "An RPG, but cool" aimed at people who think standard RPGs are boring.  

Ask any ten people on the BSN what an action RPG is and you'll get ten definitions.   Some, in contrast to the use in marketing, use it as a pejorative to imply the game is simple or dumb.

There's little consistent differentiation between action RPGs and their standard cousins.

Instead of supporting the muddy-ing of the water, can't we agree that there SHOULD be fairly solid definitions to words or terms?  If there aren't, why use them?

And before you say "I agree, we shouldn't use them!" - I think plenty of consumers would like to know if a game relies more on character skill or player skill, if it's real time or turn based, etc.... and having simple terms that you can use instead of having to explain at length a list of features, is HELPFUL.

Words are meant to convey generally accepted meanings.  Just because marketers and politicians and other sophists want to convince you that "black can mean white, up can mean down, and we shouldn't quibble over my saying something to you made you think something I wanted you to think even if that wasn't what was true", do we have to HELP them by saying "well, what is truth or fact, really?"

*shakes his head sadly*

[upsettingshorts]

MerinTB wrote...

Instead of supporting the muddy-ing of the water, can't we agree that there SHOULD be fairly solid definitions to words or terms?  If there aren't, why use them?

I don't, I have my own definiton:  If it has twitch mechanics, it's an action RPG.  If it doesn't, it isn't.  But not everyone shares that definition, certainly not BioWare, and it's off-topic for this thread so I didn't get into this.

As an off-topic aside, however, it is perfectly reasonable to explain how - right now, in this particular thread and context - certain terms shouldn't be taken entirely seriously.  In another thread, perhaps, there could be real back-and-forth about what precisely one is.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 17 septembre 2012 - 04:28 .

[Wonderllama4]

Hmmmmmmmm. Maybe now we will be able to show physical wear and tear on buildings!

Kirkwall never changed once in ten years

[ald0s]

I´m not really supprised that they use the frostbite engine. EA wants to roll it out for most/all their games, they use it for Generals and get direct help from DICE with converting the engine to their needs. And yeah, bye the way... its a great pice of software

=> Frostbite 2 logical choice for DA3

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

ald0s wrote...

I´m not really supprised that they use the frostbite engine. EA wants to roll it out for most/all their games, they use it for Generals and get direct help from DICE with converting the engine to their needs. And yeah, bye the way... its a great pice of software

=> Frostbite 2 logical choice for DA3

Yeah.  I wonder if buying licenses in bulk give them a discount?  That means more money to spend on the game! 

[El Mito]

Alright, let's get this out of the way:

Marketing will sell this as deep, thought provoking, and visceral. Your choices will matter, new features will surprise and delight, press "A" for awesome, think like a general, fight like a Spartan, a dark, mature and edgy story yadayadayada,......

I think that covers most of it?

(I made this post so none of us would act surprised when they see one of these pop up. It's standard marketing speak, people.)

[ald0s]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

ald0s wrote...

I´m not really supprised that they use the frostbite engine. EA wants to roll it out for most/all their games, they use it for Generals and get direct help from DICE with converting the engine to their needs. And yeah, bye the way... its a great pice of software

=> Frostbite 2 logical choice for DA3

Yeah.  I wonder if buying licenses in bulk give them a discount?  That means more money to spend on the game! 

I don´t know about licensing.... software contracts can be tricky.... (believe me!) Coule be that EA somehow own part of the engine and can destribute it at will (me speculting.... but there is one thing i bet on... we will never know the truth about DICE and EA contract situation with frostbite 2 engine)

back to topic:
there is one thing that worrys me.... will it be play for free? or a normal boxed AAA title.

EA did make it clear that they want to go heavily into free to play....

[Sylvius the Mad]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

ald0s wrote...

I´m not really supprised that they use the frostbite engine. EA wants to roll it out for most/all their games, they use it for Generals and get direct help from DICE with converting the engine to their needs. And yeah, bye the way... its a great pice of software

=> Frostbite 2 logical choice for DA3

Yeah.  I wonder if buying licenses in bulk give them a discount?  That means more money to spend on the game! 

That's not usually how budgeting works.

[Jozape]

I've never played a game on Frostbite 2 before. Is it smooth? Any RPGs or similar developed on it?

[darthnick427]

Frostbite engine? My god! DAIII is gonna look epic!

[LadieGamer]

YAY!!! SO happy for this. Came home from school checked my FB and what did I see? This announcement!!

[Naughty Bear]

darthnick427 wrote...

Frostbite engine? My god! DAIII is gonna look epic!

Dem explosions

Dat sun/light glare

Frostbite looks great, Mirrors Edge runs on it and Faith's hands do not look like she has been sticking her hands in a wood chipper.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 17 septembre 2012 - 05:18 .

[wolfsite]

Looks like I'll need to upgrade.  Using XP still.... been using it for a while.......

[Herky]

I wanna pre-order this now! Get the CE announcements over with!

[eggs on leggs]

I'm a bit thick....could someone please give me a little info on this Frostbite engine?