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[Fast Jimmy]

^

Agreed. I think its possible that The Witcher series may already have won an award for best video game trilogy of all time and the game has barely just been announced.

I understand wanting to keep expectations low until there is an actual game to show, but you've got to at least remind the world that you are, in fact, still working on a game>

[Ilidan_DA]

Are you able to say if DA 3 will be released this year?

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw

That is the current plan, but as I’ve noted before, if it slides it’ll be for quality reasons.

Modifié par Wiedzmin182009, 13 février 2013 - 07:51 .

[DragonMage95]

serenai wrote...

nightscrawl wrote...

I too would prefer an in-game trailer instead of a CG one, but at this point I will settle for cardboard cutouts.


[edit]
Woot pg100!

lol! That's pretty much where I'm at, as well. Bring on the sock puppets! 

I personally would like to see both a CGI trailer and an In Game trailer. But, since that probably wont happen i'd have to say I don't really mind either, i'll be happy with whatever they choose based on whats best. I'm so excited!:happy:

[obsessedwjpn]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

^

Agreed. I think its possible that The Witcher series may already have won an award for best video game trilogy of all time and the game has barely just been announced.

I understand wanting to keep expectations low until there is an actual game to show, but you've got to at least remind the world that you are, in fact, still working on a game>

Yeah I am starting to have nightmares that the devs are all just trolling us hard and in a few months time, after letting us speculate and stew, they will say, "GOTCHA! THERE REALLY IS NO DRAGON AGE 3 IN DEVELOPMENT!"

Please Bioware, show us some tangible evidence that you are actually working on a game that we are only hearing about in passing. Games coming out in 2014 have more details about them than DA3. *sigh*

Modifié par obsessedwjpn, 13 février 2013 - 11:25 .

[Missy_MI]

obsessedwjpn wrote...
Yeah I am starting to have nightmares that the devs are all just trolling us hard and in a few months time, after letting us speculate and stew, they will say, "GOTCHA! THERE REALLY IS NO DRAGON AGE 3 IN DEVELOPMENT!"

I don't think we'd get this shiny Inquisition discussion forum if there wasn't anything officially in development.

But I'm looking forward to new info as well. Maybe we'll get a tweet with another blurry screen shot (of sock puppets).

Modifié par Missy_MI, 14 février 2013 - 02:45 .

[obsessedwjpn]

Missy_MI wrote...
I don't think we'd get this shiny Inquisition discussion forum if there wasn't anything officially in development.

But I'm looking forward to new info as well. Maybe we'll get a tweet with another blurry screen shot (of sock puppets).

Logically, I agree with you completely and understand what you mean. I just find it odd that some games being released later this year and in 2014 have at least one video about the game out, even if it shows nothing but some CGI, while Dragon Age 3 has nothing yet. I am wondering how long Bioware is going to wait seeing as their marketing window is getting very, very small. 

Isn't it better to get out as much information as possible as early on so people can figure out whether they want to buy the game or not rather than wait until the last minute?

Modifié par obsessedwjpn, 14 février 2013 - 03:03 .

[Enad]

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Missy_MI wrote...
I don't think we'd get this shiny Inquisition discussion forum if there wasn't anything officially in development.

But I'm looking forward to new info as well. Maybe we'll get a tweet with another blurry screen shot (of sock puppets).

Logically, I agree with you completely and understand what you mean. I just find it odd that some games being released later this year and in 2014 have at least one video about the game out, even if it shows nothing but some CGI, while Dragon Age 3 has nothing yet. I am wondering how long Bioware is going to wait seeing as their marketing window is getting very, very small. 

Isn't it better to get out as much information as possible as early on so people can figure out whether they want to buy the game or not rather than wait until the last minute?

Curious about that too. They should really start showing a few tidbits sooner than later.

The Witcher 3 is due 2014 and already has a slew of screenshots and a teaser video.

So indeed, I have to agree that it is a bit peculiar that we have seen nothing but concept art and it's still due for a 2013 release date.

[Stella-Arc]

Wait a minute. Are you telling me that Witcher 3, a game that was recently brought to light has a teaser video? Wow...where is the marketing team for Dragon Age 3? lol Well, at least we got tweets, blurry images and concept art but I don't know if my heart can take anymore waiting. 

Modifié par Stella-Arc, 14 février 2013 - 03:42 .

[Yggdrasil]

Enad wrote...

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Missy_MI wrote...
I don't think we'd get this shiny Inquisition discussion forum if there wasn't anything officially in development.

But I'm looking forward to new info as well. Maybe we'll get a tweet with another blurry screen shot (of sock puppets).

Logically, I agree with you completely and understand what you mean. I just find it odd that some games being released later this year and in 2014 have at least one video about the game out, even if it shows nothing but some CGI, while Dragon Age 3 has nothing yet. I am wondering how long Bioware is going to wait seeing as their marketing window is getting very, very small. 

Isn't it better to get out as much information as possible as early on so people can figure out whether they want to buy the game or not rather than wait until the last minute?

Curious about that too. They should really start showing a few tidbits sooner than later.

The Witcher 3 is due 2014 and already has a slew of screenshots and a teaser video.

So indeed, I have to agree that it is a bit peculiar that we have seen nothing but concept art and it's still due for a 2013 release date.

Perhaps they're simply feeling a bit gun shy and want to make sure they have everything polished and finalized before any substantive reveal.  I don't know anything about video game marketing, but I don't personally believe their "marketing window" is getting small.  I'd imagine they wouldn't want to generate too much buzz with their teaser's, etc. too early and risk not being able to sustain the enthusiasm with potential customers who aren't hardcore DA fans.  But again, I don't really know anything about the business.  What kind of pre-game marketing did Bethesda do before Skyrim?

Of course, I myself would love them to release anything and everything to properly feed my DAIII obsession!

[Enad]

MichaelStJohn90068 wrote...

Enad wrote...

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Missy_MI wrote...
I don't think we'd get this shiny Inquisition discussion forum if there wasn't anything officially in development.

But I'm looking forward to new info as well. Maybe we'll get a tweet with another blurry screen shot (of sock puppets).

Logically, I agree with you completely and understand what you mean. I just find it odd that some games being released later this year and in 2014 have at least one video about the game out, even if it shows nothing but some CGI, while Dragon Age 3 has nothing yet. I am wondering how long Bioware is going to wait seeing as their marketing window is getting very, very small. 

Isn't it better to get out as much information as possible as early on so people can figure out whether they want to buy the game or not rather than wait until the last minute?

Curious about that too. They should really start showing a few tidbits sooner than later.

The Witcher 3 is due 2014 and already has a slew of screenshots and a teaser video.

So indeed, I have to agree that it is a bit peculiar that we have seen nothing but concept art and it's still due for a 2013 release date.

Perhaps they're simply feeling a bit gun shy and want to make sure they have everything polished and finalized before any substantive reveal.  I don't know anything about video game marketing, but I don't personally believe their "marketing window" is getting small.  I'd imagine they wouldn't want to generate too much buzz with their teaser's, etc. too early and risk not being able to sustain the enthusiasm with potential customers who aren't hardcore DA fans.  But again, I don't really know anything about the business.  What kind of pre-game marketing did Bethesda do before Skyrim?

Of course, I myself would love them to release anything and everything to properly feed my DAIII obsession!

Skyrim was announced a year before release with a teaser trailer. 
They then continued to post more teaser like videos with limited gameplay. Eventually they released screenshots.  This all happened much more rapidly than the pace DA3 is at. 

I'm not ragging on Bioware or anything but DA3 was officially announced in Sept with nothing more than a text statment and a few misc details. It's been 5 months with literally nothing else said/shown. I'm not a marketing professional but I don't think that's the best tactic. Most games start basic showings much earlier than DA3 has. Hopefuly we get something soon, it's been so long.

[ElitePinecone]

There are probably a dozen games slated for release in late 2013 that haven't even been announced yet, let alone featured any marketing. This year is abnormal, and the console generation transition is probably mostly why.

If DA3 is being released for new consoles, marketing featuring shiny visuals would raise all sorts of questions that neither EA, Sony or Microsoft are prepared to answer at this point. When DA3 can be marketed with actual assets, it probably will be. When they can finally include the consoles it's being released for, if that's the situation, the marketing will launch in earnest.

Constrained marketing looks like necessity, not incompetence, I'd think.

[Missy_MI]

Enad wrote...
It's been 5 months with literally nothing else said/shown. I'm not a marketing professional but I don't think that's the best tactic. Most games start basic showings much earlier than DA3 has.

They did switch over to the new Frostbite game engine, which doesn't sound like a trivial change. So possibly that has something to do with it. Also, it's only February. If the game isn't released until late 2013, that seems like a lot of time for a marketing ramp up.

Maybe we'll get a cryptic romance-themed Inquisition tweet tomorrow in honor of Valentine's Day.

Modifié par Missy_MI, 14 février 2013 - 04:45 .

[Blankeflos]

Enad wrote...

MichaelStJohn90068 wrote...

Enad wrote...

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Missy_MI wrote...
I don't think we'd get this shiny Inquisition discussion forum if there wasn't anything officially in development.

But I'm looking forward to new info as well. Maybe we'll get a tweet with another blurry screen shot (of sock puppets).

Logically, I agree with you completely and understand what you mean. I just find it odd that some games being released later this year and in 2014 have at least one video about the game out, even if it shows nothing but some CGI, while Dragon Age 3 has nothing yet. I am wondering how long Bioware is going to wait seeing as their marketing window is getting very, very small. 

Isn't it better to get out as much information as possible as early on so people can figure out whether they want to buy the game or not rather than wait until the last minute?

Curious about that too. They should really start showing a few tidbits sooner than later.

The Witcher 3 is due 2014 and already has a slew of screenshots and a teaser video.

So indeed, I have to agree that it is a bit peculiar that we have seen nothing but concept art and it's still due for a 2013 release date.

Perhaps they're simply feeling a bit gun shy and want to make sure they have everything polished and finalized before any substantive reveal.  I don't know anything about video game marketing, but I don't personally believe their "marketing window" is getting small.  I'd imagine they wouldn't want to generate too much buzz with their teaser's, etc. too early and risk not being able to sustain the enthusiasm with potential customers who aren't hardcore DA fans.  But again, I don't really know anything about the business.  What kind of pre-game marketing did Bethesda do before Skyrim?

Of course, I myself would love them to release anything and everything to properly feed my DAIII obsession!

Skyrim was announced a year before release with a teaser trailer. 
They then continued to post more teaser like videos with limited gameplay. Eventually they released screenshots.  This all happened much more rapidly than the pace DA3 is at. 

I'm not ragging on Bioware or anything but DA3 was officially announced in Sept with nothing more than a text statment and a few misc details. It's been 5 months with literally nothing else said/shown. I'm not a marketing professional but I don't think that's the best tactic. Most games start basic showings much earlier than DA3 has. Hopefuly we get something soon, it's been so long.

Honestly, I think the main reason Bioware is holding information from DAI is to avoid overexposition of the game during pre-release, especially after all the negative reaction from DAII and ME3. To me the "show-don't-tell" approach proves how committed they are to not make us feel like they're selling one game and we're getting another, like many proclaimed was the case in the past. I appreciate that, even though I admit the wait is killing me!

As an architecture student I'm well aware of how easy (and healthy) it is to throw all the ideas and references you have for your project when you're still working on it, but when you deliver it there isn't even half of what you envisioned there. That happens basically because if you want it to be perfect you'll never finish it. Elimination, big cuts, underdevelopment of certain aspects are all part of the process. Sometimes that's really disappointing. David Gaider himself said something about it on his Tumblr.

I may be wrong, but I believe Bioware won't show anything about DAI until the game is nearly done, and I think that's how it should be.

Modifié par Blankeflos, 14 février 2013 - 05:44 .

[obsessedwjpn]

Ugh, I just watched another "recent" video concerning the Frostbite 2 engine and comments on how Dragon Age Inquisition will look on it. This video was on IGN and yet again they are saying that they have heard DA:I will be released in 2014 on next-gen consoles. Bioware please confirm this for us some time soon! Is it 2013 or 2014? Next-gen consoles or not? I really wish they would just nail down an actual date so that these rumors and confusion can stop spreading about when the game will come out. If it ever does, lol.

Here is the link: http://www.examiner....3-s-performance (it is placed in an article that is dated February 13, 2013 so this has me worried that people are still confusing the years of when DA:I will come out)

Modifié par obsessedwjpn, 14 février 2013 - 06:33 .

[Steppenwolf]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I think Inquisition is running way behind schedule. Before they even announced the game last year they were saying they weren't going to announce the game without having something to show. Then a few devs claimed here that the announcement was forced because of the Doctors' departure, but that was not a sudden thing. Those sorts of transitions happen over months, not days. It seems to me that they could have at least had some in-game character renders to show us, but they haven't even unveiled any concept art beyond those few of landscapes and those don't tell us anything. And their entire "show, don't tell" policy has been BS because they've been telling us all sorts of stuff for over a year. If the game is going to launch late 2013 and not be an ugly abomination there's no way they wouldn't have anything presentable at this point in time. That's just not how AAA games are developed.
The only reasonable explanations are that the game is going to be delayed considerably, or it's going to be next-gen and delayed.

[Chipaway111]

I think everyone's getting a little impatient (well, more than usual) right now. BioWare knows what to do with their product and how to treat it so they'll do what's best. That's the rational side of me talking.

The irrational one is jumping up and down, banging on the floor screaming for a trailer, substantial information, anything, but I don't let her out of her cage often...

[ElitePinecone]

BasilKarlo wrote...

If the game is going to launch late 2013 and not be an ugly abomination there's no way they wouldn't have anything presentable at this point in time. That's just not how AAA games are developed.
.

Says who? Nobody here is a game developer or even a member of the industry. We know literally nothing about Bioware's strategy or internal reasoning, EA's release schedule (changes to which would require publicly notifying investors), the timeframe of the game's development or even its state of completion at the moment . Every post about DA3's release or marketing (mine included) is the amateur opinion of a fan of the game, it's all posturing and speculation until the developers themselves decide to say something more. 

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Ugh, I just watched another "recent" video concerning the Frostbite 2 engine and comments on how Dragon Age Inquisition will look on it. This video was on IGN and yet again they are saying that they have heard DA:I will be released in 2014 on next-gen consoles. Bioware please confirm this for us some time soon! Is it 2013 or 2014? Next-gen consoles or not? I really wish they would just nail down an actual date so that these rumors and confusion can stop spreading about when the game will come out. If it ever does, lol.

Here is the link: http://www.examiner....3-s-performance (it is placed in an article that is dated February 13, 2013 so this has me worried that people are still confusing the years of when DA:I will come out)

Mike Laidlaw literally just said a few hours ago that they're still aiming for 2013. Anything else is incorrect, until we get more information. The rumour that it was "delayed" to "2014" was partly true, in a sense, late 2013 is actually in EA's fiscal year 2014. Many, many news sites have confused the two dates. 

[serenai]

Chris Priestly:
Just saw the cover art for the first volume of the new @DarkHorseComics World of Thedas lore book. I think DA fans will love it. #dragonage

Cameron Lee: 
Must stop reading the DA3 meme thread and go to bed. It's too funny though.

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Meme thread? Where?

Mike Laidlaw literally just said a few hours ago that they're still aiming for 2013. Anything else is incorrect, until we get more information. The rumour that it was "delayed" to "2014" was partly true, in a sense, late 2013 is actually in EA's fiscal year 2014. Many, many news sites have confused the two dates.

/nod
Mr. Laidlaw knows the difference. I'd definitely trust his dates over rumored dates.

Modifié par serenai, 14 février 2013 - 10:39 .

[nightscrawl]

^ Lol it's right there on the first page of the forum...

Also, DG already posted a tumblr with the comic issue cover art.

[Yrkoon]

ElitePinecone wrote...
 late 2013 is actually in EA's fiscal year 2014.

Wait... this isn't true is it?  EA's Fiscal year ends in March, which means their 2013 won't end until March of 2014.

[don-mika]

Yrkoon wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...
 late 2013 is actually in EA's fiscal year 2014.

Wait... this isn't true is it?  EA's Fiscal year ends in March, which means their 2013 won't end until March of 2014.

 april first 2013 is Q1 2014

Modifié par don-mika, 14 février 2013 - 02:23 .

[nightscrawl]

I'm inclined to go with what Mike says, as I don't think he would jerk fans around by saying 2013, when in reality is it fiscal 2013, which could be in real-world 2014.

[Fast Jimmy]

nightscrawl wrote...

I'm inclined to go with what Mike says, as I don't think he would jerk fans around by saying 2013, when in reality is it fiscal 2013, which could be in real-world 2014.

I believe it was also said at one time "Fall 2013," wasn't it? I don't think you can do any juggling with something as concrete as that... then again, I don't have a quote that says that handy. I feel like it was maybe Priestly?

[nightscrawl]

^ Yes, but I didn't have a source for that, which is why I didn't mention it XD.