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[ThisIsZad]

Stella-Arc wrote...

How I'm feeling about all the waiting:

ME TOO!!!

[Steppenwolf]

DiegoRaphael wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

DiegoRaphael wrote...

Mark my words:

We will see something about DA3 in Feb 20, on Playstation 4 event.

Why would Sony use a cross-platform title to show off their new console? It makes zero sense.

To show support for the platform, EA could go there and present the games they have planned for PS4, and DA3 may be among them.

Maybe they wont even show screens or anything, but just confirm that DA3 will be on PS4.

Sony needs console sellers. Dragon Age is not a console seller. It's cross-platform and fledgling, not a PlayStation juggernaut.

[ElitePinecone]

David Gaider will be giving a presentation titled "Sex in Video Games" at GDC in San Francisco, March 25-29.

The talk discusses how "sexism and sexuality in games can affect not only sales, but public perception about the company".

[Brockololly]

ElitePinecone wrote...

DiegoRaphael wrote...

Mark my words:

We will see something about DA3 in Feb 20, on Playstation 4 event.

I hope so, but kinda doubt it, that's not exactly in the spring period that all the devs were mentioning. Plus, appearing at a PS4 event would be confirmation of DA3's presence on next-gen consoles, but they still couldn't talk about the next Xbox version because it hasn't been announced yet. They'd be stuck hyping up PS4 while awkwardly avoiding talking about any other version. 

Come on. Everyone and their grandma knows that DA3 will be on nextgen consoles and PC. The only question is whether it still comes out on current consoles in addition to that, which is likely given that its EA we're talking about here and they're a third party developer who wants to sell as many copies as possible on as many platforms as possible.

As to whether DA3 shows up at Sony's PS4 unveil next week? I don't know. I'm going to guess there will be some nextgen third party games being shown there, but it could be something like Watch_Dogs from Ubisoft which has already been unveiled. Or possibly EA shows off Battlefield 4? Microsoft seems to have gotten into bed with Activision and Call of Duty with exclusivity periods with DLC so maybe Sony tried to counter by doing something similar with Battlefield?

DiegoRaphael wrote...
If they will  wait for the next XBOX to be announced, then we wont see anything till  E3, and if they really want to launch DA3 by the end of the year (and  not the fiscal year) they will have less than 5 months to market it.

My bigger bet is on GDC and PAX East (hopes for PAX, because it is a presentation more to us, fans) but i hope we see something next week.

It sort of depends on when Xbox announces. I'm going to guess they'll announce at their own event like Sony is doing, independent of GDC or PAX. The question would be whether or not they do it before something like GDC and PAX, since once that nextgen cat is out of the bag, nextgen talk will likely dominate conversation at events like PAX and GDC. So I'd be skeptical that once Sony gets out first that MS will just let them hog all of the attention for too long.



I'm almost as interested in how BioWare/EA tries to market DA3 as I am the actual game. Assume that the game is indeed coming out end of the year, say November, like Origins did, for nextgen and current consoles plus PC. I just think its likely to be so incredibly crowded in that time frame that sales wise, its possible some good games get forgotten there. That Holiday season is always crowded with big releases but even more so if you're going to have people buying expensive new consoles, with all the regular big name franchises like Call of Duty and Battlefield, plus who knows what nice looking new first party IPs, plus GTA 5 in September.

Usually, I'd think that for a franchise going into its 3rd game, you wouldn't need to do a big job selling people on the game. Look at Skyrim- it was coming off of Oblivion and Fallout 3, so people generally knew what they were getting when they saw that first gameplay trailer for Skyrim ~9 months prior to release. Whereas with Dragon Age, you have Origins and DA2 which have so many differences to many people and just the general reception to DA2 wasn't overwhelmingly positive. So I'd think in some respects, DA3 has to almost be treated as a new IP in terms of launching it- they have to sell it to the people turned off by DA2 and not just aim for the most generic market possible, as EA has been doing with so many of their recent games.

And the longer they hold off on unveiling it, the bigger that unveil is going to have to be. I don't think simply having gorgeous visuals will be enough either, since I'm going to guess most nextgen games will be looking amazing. DA3 will have to convince people that its not only not making the same mistakes as DA2 but that its on par or better than Origins and other recent RPGs like The WItcher 2 or Skyrim. And the longer they wait to unveil, the harder it will be to get that message out, simply as a matter of how crowded and noisy things will be with everything else coming out for nextgen.

Modifié par Brockololly, 15 février 2013 - 03:43 .

[Enad]

I honestly don't think it's coming out for next gen consoles, at least not right away.

I can't see the consoles coming out this year if they get announced only 8 months or so in advance.
I could be wrong but it just seems like a short window to sell a whole system.

If DA3 holds true to 2013 release date it's very likely to be on current gen. Ofcourse, as a PC player...I would love for next gen consoles to come out before the end of the year and have DA3 on them. This would lead to it being more powerful on PC as well.

I guess we'll wait and see. I wish Bioware would give us something..

[ElitePinecone]

Brockololly wrote...
Everyone and their grandma knows that DA3 will be on nextgen consoles and PC.

Enad wrote...
If DA3 holds true to 2013 release date it's very likely to be on current gen.

I'm sensing some wildly diverging opinions here.

At the end of the day speculation is speculation, rumours are rumours, and fact is fact. We'll have more of the latter soon, but until then it's mildly diverting watching people tie themselves in knots trying to guess a marketing strategy from the perspective of a consumer.

Mike's tweet only said he couldn't confirm which consoles the game is being released on, to my mind that's more likely to mean it's in development for next-gen (not to mention the other rumours out of EA Shanghai) but we'll see what happens in a month or two.

Keep in mind that the northern hemisphere spring doesn't start for about five or six weeks. That's the absolute earliest time Bioware has said they're likely to reveal anything substantial - but it could be as long as three or four months, if we use spring as a rough guide.

Edit: I accidentally a word, above.

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 15 février 2013 - 06:31 .

[Brockololly]

Enad wrote...

I honestly don't think it's coming out for next gen consoles, at least not right away.

Since its Frostbite 2 or at least based on Frostbite 2, its pretty likely they'll be able to make it suitably "nextgen" if they want to, judging how Battlefield 3 works on current consoles and PC, and pretty solid rumors about Battlefield 4 indicate its coming out on nextgen, PC and current consoles.

Enad wrote...
I can't see the consoles coming out this year if they get announced only 8 months or so in advance.
I could be wrong but it just seems like a short window to sell a whole system.

I'm pretty sure its about the same time frame as when the 360 was announced to launch- announced in May 2005 and launched in November 2005. I will be absolutely dumbfounded and speechless if Sony isn't unveiling the PS4 February 20th.

Enad wrote...
If DA3 holds true to 2013 release date it's very likely to be on current gen. Ofcourse, as a PC player...I would love for next gen consoles to come out before the end of the year and have DA3 on them. This would lead to it being more powerful on PC as well.

Sure, if it is a solid 2013 release date then its very likely to be coming out on both current and nextgen consoles I'd guess. My question then is what the big differences in the game would be? You can look at something like Battlefield to maybe give some inclination, since its based in Frostbite. Already with BF3, PC has much better visuals by an order of magnitude and the 64 player count in MP. That's supposedly the big difference with Battlefield 4 on nextgen/PC versus current consoles- better image quality, framerate and visuals plus 64 player support.

I don't know how that translates though to a single player RPG like DA3 (ignoring any possible MP mode). BioWare would seemingly have to make the 360/PS3 versions be on par content wise with nextgen, so would that mean DA3 would still be hamstrung by having to cater to the old consoles? From that point of view, I'd maybe think the big differences would mainly be in the visuals, since that would likely be a easier and more cost effective way to differentiate the nextgen/PC and 360/PS3 versions. It will be interesting to see how that all shakes out.

ElitePinecone wrote...

Keep in mind that the
northern hemisphere spring doesn't start for about five or six weeks.
That's the absolute earliest time Bioware has said they're likely to
reveal anything substantial - but it could be as long as three or four
months, if we use spring as a rough guide.

Yeah. But what was the source of the whole "don't expect anything until Spring!" quote? I mean, I'm not necessarily going to hold them to that. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they show something between now and GDC. Definitely before E3, I'd think. I'll genuinely be very, very surprised if we don't see anything DA related until June and E3. Shocked, really.

[Fast Jimmy]

It's times like this that I really mourn the death of TechTV/G4.

[bondari reloads.]

Brockololly wrote...

I'm almost as interested in how BioWare/EA tries to market DA3 as I am the actual game.

Me too, thanks to Mr Schumacher's talkativeness. I've come to think I'd be stupid would I so much as doubt that the game will be delayed. (Last of Us ...) I wonder how them companies synch their releases, really.

Brockololly wrote...

And the longer they hold off on unveiling it, the bigger that unveil is going to have to be. I don't think simply having gorgeous visuals will be enough either, since I'm going to guess most nextgen games will be looking amazing. DA3 will have to convince people that its not only not making the same mistakes as DA2 but that its on par or better than Origins and other recent RPGs like The WItcher 2 or Skyrim. And the longer they wait to unveil, the harder it will be to get that message out, simply as a matter of how crowded and noisy things will be with everything else coming out for nextgen.

Spot on. DA:I needs time to attract new fans, and there isn't enough time until fall 2013. Well, if there'd be something as ides of Feb, we're already past that, and don't let me get started on the ides of March, Brutus-EA stabbing BW-Caesar in the back or something. 

[Ilidan_DA]

So I checked my calendar and I have you due for a cryptic, but yet insightful DAIII tweet to make us yearn for reveal.

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw

Oh, man, that was due YESTERDAY? Dammit.

[Enad]

Brockololly wrote...

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As for the both next gen and current gen console thing...I can see it happening but I'm afraid of what it will cause.
I feel like it wont end up good either way. They will clearly be making it with current gen consoles in mind(maybe PC, i can dream) and then when it gets ported up to the next gen consoles, I can't see it being anything special. So in that circumstance it will anger the next gen console users, but also the PC crowd possibly. Seeing as if it was designed for next gen consoles it would be more powerful on PC.

On the other hand, if it is ported to next gen consoles and they make it highly superior that will anger both current gen AND PC users since they got the shaft, especially the PC users since we already have systems 5x as powerful as next gen consoles.

I just see it as a slipperly slope and I'm curious to how bioware will pull it off.
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[DragonMage95]

Enad wrote...

I honestly don't think it's coming out for next gen consoles, at least not right away.

I can't see the consoles coming out this year if they get announced only 8 months or so in advance.
I could be wrong but it just seems like a short window to sell a whole system.

If DA3 holds true to 2013 release date it's very likely to be on current gen. Ofcourse, as a PC player...I would love for next gen consoles to come out before the end of the year and have DA3 on them. This would lead to it being more powerful on PC as well.

I guess we'll wait and see. I wish Bioware would give us something..

Me too. I'm not to excited for the Next-Gen consoles so far ,but if DA3 and other games are going to be released on them i'd like to know ahead of time so I can try to save money to buy the next-gen console and game. My hope is that it will be both current-gen and next-gen.

[ElitePinecone]

Brockololly wrote...
 what was the source of the whole "don't expect anything until Spring!" quote?

Chris Priestly (twice, I think) and also Mike Laidlaw. 

They both said it early enough that I suspect it's something EA's marketing team worked out months ago ("let's wait until [Convention/Event X] to announce it") rather than being dependant on the actual state of the game.

Or perhaps, if it's tied to the next-gen consoles, it was more a case of needing to wait until they were actually announced. 

I agree though, E3 seems massively too late.

[CudaThedas]

New pages from The World of Thedas:
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[Wolf]

^Does that say Tevinter mage and sword? Is this a statement that arcane warrior-like fighters exist in Tevinter? Could they have adapted the fighting style and techniques from old tomes on the subject when they enslaved the elves or something of the like? Or is it an altogether different type of weapon-wielding mage fighting style? 

That seems like the kind of thing we would want back in Inquisition. If it's put in the game, of course.

Modifié par Gaiden96, 16 février 2013 - 03:41 .

[MilaBanilla]

Gaiden96 wrote...

^Does that say Tevinter mage and sword? Is this a statement that arcane warrior-like fighters exist in Tevinter? Could they have adapted the fighting style and techniques from old tomes on the subject when they enslaved the elves or something of the like? Or is it an altogether different type of weapon-wielding mage fighting style? 

That seems like the kind of thing we would want back in Inquisition. If it's put in the game, of course.

I thought it said "...Tevinter mace and sword" 
I can't tell thought but I zoomed in if it was a "G" but it looks for like "C" 
I guess we will wait till the book is out.

[nightscrawl]

Gaiden96 wrote...

^Does that say Tevinter mage and sword? Is this a statement that arcane warrior-like fighters exist in Tevinter? Could they have adapted the fighting style and techniques from old tomes on the subject when they enslaved the elves or something of the like? Or is it an altogether different type of weapon-wielding mage fighting style? 

That seems like the kind of thing we would want back in Inquisition. If it's put in the game, of course.

When you consider Fenris, and what he is capable of -- which, let's face it, is physical combat combined with magic -- the idea for which came from Tevinter, who knows what all they get up to up there. The Tevinter Imperium has been around for a very long time, and their free reign of mages and their magic use means that they have had a long time in which to develop creative uses for magic. I would go as far as to say that mages in other parts of Thedas are primitive in comparison, only because they are regulated so highly, the least of which is for blood magic.

To the image itself, it does say "A Tevinter mage and sword." The lowercase 'g' extends below the line, so it is not 'mace.' While I would agree that yes, the two images shown together leads to the assumption of a sword-wielding mage, I would caution against reading too much into it. Concept art will be used throughout the book in various aspects, some of which might not be related to actual content. The sentence could just as easily read "A Tevinter mage, shown with his sword," or "A Tevinter mage, and a Tevinter sword." The fact that he is not shown holding the sword is suspect to me. Also, remember that Fenris states that Danarius collected Blades of Mercy. Does that mean Danarius used them? We will likely never know.

[Steppenwolf]

Pretty sure it says "Tevinter mage and sword" since there is no mace anywhere. But a Tevinter mage with a sword on the same page doesn't mean arcane warrior. Even if the mage were holding the sword it wouldn't automatically mean arcane warrior. Being an arcane warrior means you have an additional magical skillset, not that you can swing a sword and sling a spell.

[Reznore57]

I've been looking to the site dragonage .pl (where some scans came from) and there was a contest to create 3D characters , If I understood correctly....
(don't get excited it's not DA3 official characters !)

http://translate.goo....dragon-age.pl/

Some creation are really nice ...but it's strange that Bioware didn't promote that contest much.
Anyone else knew about this?

[don-mika]

Reznore57 wrote...

I've been looking to the site dragonage .pl (where some scans came from) and there was a contest to create 3D characters , If I understood correctly....
(don't get excited it's not DA3 official characters !)

http://translate.goo....dragon-age.pl/

Some creation are really nice ...but it's strange that Bioware didn't promote that contest much.
Anyone else knew about this?

http://cghub.com/for...ad.php?p=139688

[ElitePinecone]

Yeah, there was a competition to design Mass Effect and Dragon Age characters.

I'm not sure if it was even sponsored or acknowledged by Bioware, though. It's certainly not official concept art or anything, but still cool to see all the.ideas!