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[Commander Kurt]

BasilKarlo wrote...

I remember spending $70 of my birthday money on Primal Rage for the Sega Genesis, and that game came in a flimsy cardboard slipcase and the cartridge wasn't even screwed together...

Good times...

Biotic Sage wrote...

Commander Kurt wrote...

I actually remember spending more on a videogame as a kid than I do now, so I can understand the need to increase prices. Strange to see people getting upset about this while the cost of going to the movies (and pretty much everything else) has doubled since then.

Well the difference is that wages aren't keeping up with the increasing costs of living like they were back then...

I guess that would vary depending on where you are. Industrialized nations on the whole have seen a small but steady increase in the discretionary income (mostly due to food prices being lower) over the years.

[Conduit0]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Commander Kurt wrote...

I actually remember spending more on a videogame as a kid than I do now, so I can understand the need to increase prices. Strange to see people getting upset about this while the cost of going to the movies (and pretty much everything else) has doubled since then.

Ha, rouge talent tree. Perhaps this is the new and improved cc, at level 7 and 14 you get to choose a new nose, ears, haircolor and matching makeup kit.

Well the difference is that wages aren't keeping up with the increasing costs of living like they were back then...

Doesn't matter, simple fact is, games are cheaper now than they were 5 or 10 years ago when you adjust for inflation. So a price hike to help offset rising development costs is understandable and completely reasonable.

[Fast Jimmy]

Commander Kurt wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

I remember spending $70 of my birthday money on Primal Rage for the Sega Genesis, and that game came in a flimsy cardboard slipcase and the cartridge wasn't even screwed together...

Good times...

Biotic Sage wrote...

Commander Kurt wrote...

I actually remember spending more on a videogame as a kid than I do now, so I can understand the need to increase prices. Strange to see people getting upset about this while the cost of going to the movies (and pretty much everything else) has doubled since then.

Well the difference is that wages aren't keeping up with the increasing costs of living like they were back then...

I guess that would vary depending on where you are. Industrialized nations on the whole have seen a small but steady increase in the discretionary income (mostly due to food prices being lower) over the years.

Not to mention that government and corporate benefits have steadily increased as well, in terms of actual dollars paid. If you have, for instance, health insurance through your government or through the company you work for, they are paying much more to cover you than they were ten years ago. If they had instead just paid that difference to you in wages, it would have resulted and allowed for a pretty substantial wage increase. It would have also resulted in lower health quality (not to mention lower recruitment rates and lower tax incentives for the companies), so they pay more in healthcare coverage instead. 

If you are working the mines in sub-Saharan Africa, then I agree that wages have been locked for quite a long time with no benefit. But if that's the case, you probably couldn't afford internet connections, let alone a video game.

Just to give some perspective, at least. If you want to make more money so that you can buy video games, donate money to finding cures for diabetes, heart disease and obesity. If those three things were cured tomorrow, worldwide healthcare expenses would drop by half, easily, and there would be plenty more money for everyone.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 28 février 2013 - 03:06 .

[serenai]

Josh Stiksma:
Finally, my toolset is back in action. Take heed, bug list.

Aidan Scanlan:
It's #DA3 #SprintReviewDay tomorrow. I had better start coming up with some vague, teasing tweets about DA3 progress...


:wizard: 

Modifié par serenai, 28 février 2013 - 03:17 .

[MiSS Provencale]

I love tweets developers but it is the powder that throws us in the face and I'll explain simply. DA Inquisition was officially announced in September 2012 there are five months. And since nothing! No teaser, no trailer, no revelation of the future hero and companions. Its beginning to be brief TOO long. We'll have to wait until E3???? TOO LONG

PS: Sorry for my English again .....

[Enad]

MiSS Provencale wrote...

I love tweets developers but it is the powder that throws us in the face and I'll explain simply. DA Inquisition was officially announced in September 2012 there are five months. And since nothing! No teaser, no trailer, no revelation of the future hero and companions. Its beginning to be brief TOO long. We'll have to wait until E3???? TOO LONG

PS: Sorry for my English again .....

I agree. 

It's been very long and the wait is seriously killing me. I'm not asking for a full reveal. Maybe just a teaser screenshot or less...some details on anything really.

Oh well. Hopefully when it is revealed, it will be grand. I just hope it's before E3. June is so far away.

[Zombie_Alexis]

DA2 was revealed 8 months before release date, so give it a little time folks. Patience is a virtue.

[King Cousland]

People, we're all biting our nails waiting for some solid information, but as devs have stated repeatedly, that'll only come when they're ready to show something (I for one am glad they're taking their time, despite my impatience). 

Our pleas aren't going to speed up time or make BioWare throw a presentation together before they're ready, so until such a time as they are ready to show something, best just to carry on as we have been, however interminable that may seem at times. 

Patience is, after all, a virtue 

EDIT: Grrr, ninja'd by Zombie_Alexis 

Modifié par King Cousland, 28 février 2013 - 05:22 .

[ElitePinecone]

It could be months until more information, or it could be next week. Patience!

[Damate]

 Hehehehehehe. Ahhh, Patrick Weekes. 

Nerd Appropriate @NerdAppropriate
Indie puzzler, The Bridge, bends space, time, and your mind http://www.nerdappro...e.com/?p=19323 


Jos Hendriks @Sjosz
@NerdAppropriate You've just convinced me to buy that.

Nerd Appropriate @NerdAppropriate
Upt oh! Black Flag or something else w talked about?

Jos Hendriks @Sjosz
The Bridge! My tweet was a response to you tweeting that article. Escher is a little national pride for me.

PatrickWeekes @PatrickWeekes
@Sjosz @nerdappropriate This explains so much of your level design...

Jos Hendriks @Sjosz
Nice.

PatrickWeekes @PatrickWeekes
...in that it is awesome.

Jos Hendriks @Sjosz
Good save

PatrickWeekes @PatrickWeekes
Oh come on, you lobbed that one over the net.

Jos Hendriks @Sjosz
Fair enough.

Nerd Appropriate @NerdAppropriate
I am now terrified of what the Deep Roads are going to look like in DA: 3 - "now with more deep roadyness"

PatrickWeekes @PatrickWeekes
It's like Escher's neverending staircase, only with broodmothers. 

[ElitePinecone]

shygravel wrote...

Jos Hendriks @Sjosz
[...] Escher is a little national pride for me.

PatrickWeekes @PatrickWeekes
@Sjosz @nerdappropriate This explains so much of your level design...

HAH! 

[nightscrawl]

shygravel wrote...

Nerd Appropriate @NerdAppropriate
I am now terrified of what the Deep Roads are going to look like in DA: 3 - "now with more deep roadyness"

PatrickWeekes @PatrickWeekes
It's like Escher's neverending staircase, only with broodmothers. 

Ahaha, I'll look forward to it!

[Fast Jimmy]

nightscrawl wrote...

shygravel wrote...

Nerd Appropriate @NerdAppropriate
I am now terrified of what the Deep Roads are going to look like in DA: 3 - "now with more deep roadyness"

PatrickWeekes @PatrickWeekes
It's like Escher's neverending staircase, only with broodmothers. 

Ahaha, I'll look forward to it!

LOL I'll probably have nightmares about that tonight...

[Steppenwolf]

Zombie_Alexis wrote...

DA2 was revealed 8 months before release date, so give it a little time folks. Patience is a virtue.

And look how that turned out.

[TheBreadedOne]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Zombie_Alexis wrote...

DA2 was revealed 8 months before release date, so give it a little time folks. Patience is a virtue.

And look how that turned out.

What is false equivalency?

[Commander Kurt]

@Jimmy; Indeed. And seeing as we might be in for quite a wait still, we'll have ample time to save up!

BasilKarlo wrote...

Zombie_Alexis wrote...

DA2 was revealed 8 months before release date, so give it a little time folks. Patience is a virtue.

And look how that turned out.

You need a hug, don't you?

[Steppenwolf]

I wouldn't turn it down.

[ZMJ10]

I cannot tell you Bioware just how much this makes me happy. DAO was and still is to this day my favorite RPG. Better than skyrim better than anything i have seen and played. I bought all the DLC for DAO then....DA2 came out i bought it because i love this world and then my heart was crushed and destroyed. My hope for DA3 is so high and just *sigh* dont give us another EA game. we want a BIOWARE GAME!!!!

[King Cousland]

ZMJ10 wrote...

I cannot tell you Bioware just how much this makes me happy. DAO was and still is to this day my favorite RPG. Better than skyrim better than anything i have seen and played. I bought all the DLC for DAO then....DA2 came out i bought it because i love this world and then my heart was crushed and destroyed. My hope for DA3 is so high and just *sigh* dont give us another EA game. we want a BIOWARE GAME!!!!

BioWare is EA. The BioWare DNA may still be present, but if EA gives BioWare a direct mandate, they can hardly turn around and say, "No." Regardless, I have high hopes for Inquisition. 

Modifié par King Cousland, 28 février 2013 - 10:27 .

[serenai]

Not sure if these are all DA3 related, but they worth posting simply for the mental images they might conjure:

David Gaider:
Me: "Lesbians LOVE whales!" @Sylvf1: "Good God, don't tweet that!" #WritersPit

Sylvf:
@davidgaider Again: Clearly not an exclamation ending that sentence. I was using a weary period mark.

David Gaider:
@Sylvf1 Very well. In the future, whenever I quote you, you shall speak like an Elcor.

Mike Laidlaw:
@davidgaider @Sylvf1 With weary resignation, I'm sure she'll appreciate the accuracy.

Jos Hendriks:
You know what's great? Revelations at work that result in high five moments. Right now is one of those moments.

Cameron Lee:
Everyone should have the experience of @Mike_Laidlaw jumping on a box in front of their desk and pelvis thrusting. Made my day!

Modifié par serenai, 28 février 2013 - 11:26 .

[DragonMage95]

Commander Kurt wrote...

@Jimmy; Indeed. And seeing as we might be in for quite a wait still, we'll have ample time to save up!

BasilKarlo wrote...

Zombie_Alexis wrote...

DA2 was revealed 8 months before release date, so give it a little time folks. Patience is a virtue.

And look how that turned out.

You need a hug, don't you?

We should all unite  so we can give BasilKarlo a hug.

[Biotic Sage]

[quote]Fast Jimmy wrote...

I guess that would vary depending on where you are. Industrialized nations on the whole have seen a small but steady increase in the discretionary income (mostly due to food prices being lower) over the years.[/quote]

[/quote]



Just one of the many visual representations of wage stagnation for the majority of 1st world nations.  Combine this with the very real fact that the average citizen is paying more expenses than any other time in history: cell phone, internet at home, internet on phone, car insurance, health insurance, utilities, and Xbox live for some poor saps.  You can see that simply raising prices instead of finding a more economical way to make games benefits the companies and not the average consumer.  This is the U.S.A. perspective and yes it varies a bit between countries (for example, some have government provided internet), but increased cost of living and stagnating wages is a pretty universal problem right now in developed countries.  Meanwhile total wealth (and specifically corporate profits) is at an all time high.

And don't even get me started on healthcare in the U.S.  Sure insurance is paying for more and more costs, but why are those frickin' costs so high to begin with?  I'll give you a hint: it's not because the hospitals and medical field want to make LESS money.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 01 mars 2013 - 01:18 .

[TheBreadedOne]

EDIT: I give up on attempting to quote the comment with the graph.

You do realize that the graph is from 2008 the WORST year of the recession right?

Modifié par TheBreadedOne , 01 mars 2013 - 01:28 .

[Ilidan_DA]

Chris Priestly ‏@BioEvilChris

Tomorrow is DA3 Sprint review day. Expect my Twitter feed to be full of teases, vague hints and lies. Just like any other day.