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[Cirram55]

Yeah it just seems kinda... wasteful, maybe? I don't really have a problem with DAI possibly being delayed to Q1 2014, but I'd much prefer "The masked empire" to set a little more hype for the game and perhaps even provide contex, background and additional info to the reader and potential player before the game launched. Just seems like a wasted opportunity to flesh out more some characters before we actually get tomeet them.

Edit: if everyone keeps saying April 2014 then, alas, truth hath spoken out.

Modifié par Cirram55, 30 mars 2013 - 12:20 .

[King Cousland]

MichaelStJohn90068 wrote...

P.S. Give credit where credit is due. I came across the link to the publisher's website at the fabulous Dragon Age Wiki:

http://dragonage.wik...e_Masked_Empire

He's right. We are fabulous 

[Pelican34]

It just doesn't make sense. Who announces a novel more than a year ahead of release? They also likely wouldn't have cover finalized this far out and that doesn't look like a placeholder.

[Tommyspa]

Pelican34 wrote...

It just doesn't make sense. Who announces a novel more than a year ahead of release? They also likely wouldn't have cover finalized this far out and that doesn't look like a placeholder.

Its why some of us on here are thinking Barnes and Noble's date of June 2, 2013 is possible.

[serenai]

Didn't see this one posted yet..

Rock Paper Shotgun:
Nathan talks to Bioware's @davidgaider about lessons learned from Dragon Age II as the studio works on Dragon Age III http://bit.ly/XgR374

Modifié par serenai, 30 mars 2013 - 01:04 .

[serenai]

MichaelStJohn90068 wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...

TheBlackAdder13 wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...

Cirram55 wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...
Has Patrick said anything on the matter?

Nope, someone just posted a link in that thread. I don't even have twitter, else I would have asked him.

I'd ask but i'd hate to be a bother.

Bother him! The masses must know!

Even if it has no bearing on the release date for DA 3 I'm still dying to get my hands on this book. The premise seems awesome. City elves and Orlesian intrigue. Yes please! 

Alright i'll bother him.For the people!

The publisher's website says "April 2014" release date:

http://www.tor.com/b...r-patrick-weeks

However, I agree with "Cirram55" that this seems weird.  The novel sounds like a prequel to DA:Inquisition, so why release it after the game?  I would assume the Orlesian civil war and Empress Celene's fate would be decided by the events of DA:I.  Maker preserve us if that somehow means the game won't be released until after April 2014! 

From the publisher's website:

Patrick Weekes, senior writer at BioWare, will pen Dragon Age: The Masked Empire for April 2014 publication.

They make it sound like Mr. Weekes has not written it yet, while other tweets and such say "has written" so I'm confused. If he has yet to write it, I can definitely see a release date of a year from now.

Modifié par serenai, 30 mars 2013 - 01:11 .

[serenai]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Oh, I am happy they are very excited to work on DA3. I know David mentioned it, as well as Allan, that the devs themselves are anxious to reveal new information. So I don't think badly of Bioware, just don't exactly understand what the marketing team/people involved with such things are doing. It is a bit weird.

I support DA3 completely and want it to do well. I just wish we could see some of the improvements rather than just hear about them.

I'd be skeptical that it's a marketing team decision.  No one has come to me and told me to be a giant tease on the internet with some of my posts.  It's mostly just me trying to have some fun with the fans on the boards.

If it bothers people, I can stop.  I don't actually mean to aggravate people.

Please don't stop. It's a lot of fun for many people 

[Blackrising]

But why the heck would they announce a novel that hasn't even been written yet? O,o

[Steppenwolf]

Blackrising wrote...

But why the heck would they announce a novel that hasn't even been written yet? O,o

Tell that to every writer of a fantasy series.
And lots of books in general get announced really early. Distribution, books selling slowly and what not.

[Steppenwolf]

serenai wrote...

Didn't see this one posted yet..

Rock Paper Shotgun:
Nathan talks to Bioware's @davidgaider about lessons learned from Dragon Age II as the studio works on Dragon Age III http://bit.ly/XgR374

I love how Gaider says DA][ wasn't about "The typical hero’s journey where you start off with humble beginnings, become a hero, save the day, save the world." and that "It wasn’t shaping the course of the world."
The whole framed narrative was all about finding Hawke so he can save the world after he shaped the course of the world.
:facepalm:

[TheBlackAdder13]

BasilKarlo wrote...

serenai wrote...

Didn't see this one posted yet..

Rock Paper Shotgun:
Nathan talks to Bioware's @davidgaider about lessons learned from Dragon Age II as the studio works on Dragon Age III http://bit.ly/XgR374

I love how Gaider says DA][ wasn't about "The typical hero’s journey where you start off with humble beginnings, become a hero, save the day, save the world." and that "It wasn’t shaping the course of the world."
The whole framed narrative was all about finding Hawke so he can save the world after he shaped the course of the world.
:facepalm:

Well, in all fairness, this is accurate, as Hawke doesn't save the world in DA 2, he makes things worse. Saving the world seems like it was being reserved for Dragon Age II: The Cancelled Expansion. 

But I disagree with Gaider that DA II wasn't the archetypical hero's journey. You do start off with humble beginnings, save the day (defeat the Arishok/become champion) and you save the city. Sure, it's not the world, but the concept applies. He's right that it wasn't shaping the course of the world, it was being jerked around to save a city and then being jerked around to help contribute to the downfall of the city and the rest of the world via the domino effect. Just because there's a very slight variation on the trope doesn't make it any less of the hero's journey. 

Modifié par TheBlackAdder13, 30 mars 2013 - 02:36 .

[Ilidan_DA]

Ryan Loe ‏@ryan_loe

I'm spending the evening watching movies while going over #DA3 character and plot documentation. Looking good writers.

[BioFan (Official)]

Hey guys, looks like they are going to put a lot of effort into tying up DA2 in DA3!!!! 

"We have some balls that are up in the air. We can’t just let those go. Those are things we need to deal with that we left up in the air after the end of DAII. We can’t just move on to something completely new. We can’t just jump across the continent and suddenly we’re dealing with something else entirely. There are things we have to address. But we probably will move on to new overall themes. We will try different narrative elements" -Gaider

source: http://www.rockpaper...dragon-age-iii/

Modifié par Ericander77, 30 mars 2013 - 04:05 .

[DragonMage95]

serenai wrote...

MichaelStJohn90068 wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...

TheBlackAdder13 wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...

Cirram55 wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...
Has Patrick said anything on the matter?

Nope, someone just posted a link in that thread. I don't even have twitter, else I would have asked him.

I'd ask but i'd hate to be a bother.

Bother him! The masses must know!

Even if it has no bearing on the release date for DA 3 I'm still dying to get my hands on this book. The premise seems awesome. City elves and Orlesian intrigue. Yes please! 

Alright i'll bother him.For the people!

The publisher's website says "April 2014" release date:

http://www.tor.com/b...r-patrick-weeks

However, I agree with "Cirram55" that this seems weird.  The novel sounds like a prequel to DA:Inquisition, so why release it after the game?  I would assume the Orlesian civil war and Empress Celene's fate would be decided by the events of DA:I.  Maker preserve us if that somehow means the game won't be released until after April 2014! 

From the publisher's website:

Patrick Weekes, senior writer at BioWare, will pen Dragon Age: The Masked Empire for April 2014 publication.

They make it sound like Mr. Weekes has not written it yet, while other tweets and such say "has written" so I'm confused. If he has yet to write it, I can definitely see a release date of a year from now.

I tweeted Weekes to get an answer but so far he hasn't responded. But, in my opinion the release date Barnes and Noble has listed makes more sense to me than the April 2014 one.Especially since the rumored Gamestop release date for DA3 says June. If the June release date from Gamestop turns out to be a preorder date for DA3 and the Barnes and Noble release date for the book is July I think that there is still a good chance we'll get DA3 in 2013. But, thats just rumor, hopefully Bioware will start confirming things soon.

[Conduit0]

LolaLei wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Well, it's still Spring for a while so we might get lucky. I'm not gonna hold my breath though.

E3 is still in Spring, technically.

True. If we don't hear anything at E3 then I'd say it'll most definitely be a 2014 release.

If we don't hear anything by E3 it could only mean one thing, that DA3 is officially in development hell and will likely be the next Duke Nukem Forever.

[Steppenwolf]

Conduit0 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Well, it's still Spring for a while so we might get lucky. I'm not gonna hold my breath though.

E3 is still in Spring, technically.

True. If we don't hear anything at E3 then I'd say it'll most definitely be a 2014 release.

If we don't hear anything by E3 it could only mean one thing, that DA3 is officially in development hell and will likely be the next Duke Nukem Forever.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the FB3 engine is kicking their asses. I don't buy the "Going from FB2 to FB3 has been the simplest transisition! We love EA and DICE!" line BioWare has been pushing. They were already working with a new engine, are likely developing for next-gen alongside current-gen, and then their engine gets updated to a whole new iteration. I don't think things are zooming along. It's hard enough making a game on a modified engine you're familiar with, let alone a modified version of an engine you're never worked with. I still think the game is behind schedule and the book's release date(as given by the publisher) and the change in engine mid-development are just more reason to believe that IMO.

[Allan Schumacher]

I don't buy the "Going from FB2 to FB3 has been the simplest transisition! We love EA and DICE!" line BioWare has been pushing. They were already working with a new engine, are likely developing for next-gen alongside current-gen, and then their engine gets updated to a whole new iteration.

Frostbite drops occur typically every 3 months (although we want to push to a faster cadence) and this has been happening for about 18 months. You can choose to not buy it all you want, but unless you have experience working with game engines recognize that you're simply guessing.

What also exists in Frostbite 3 are systems we have created ourselves as well (better String/Conversation editing, Loc/VO systems, plot flags and journals, a lot of the things that go into RPGs). It's a part of the modular aspect of the engine.

If we weren't taking the code drops, there'd be extra systems that we'd have to work on ourselves (since we plan our programming around the developments that the Frostbite team themselves are putting forward, as well as what other teams contribute to the Frostbite head branch).

Note that these types of code branches occur even with a licensed engine like the Unreal Engine. Although due to the licensing nature, it's a bit less collaborative than it has been between us and Frostbite/DICE.

If we don't hear anything by E3 it could only mean one thing, that DA3
is officially in development hell and will likely be the next Duke Nukem
Forever.

Well we still have a few more years before we reach Dragon Age: Origins type of timetable, and that was with an in house engine people were familiar with.

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 30 mars 2013 - 05:58 .

[Steppenwolf]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

I don't buy the "Going from FB2 to FB3 has been the simplest transisition! We love EA and DICE!" line BioWare has been pushing. They were already working with a new engine, are likely developing for next-gen alongside current-gen, and then their engine gets updated to a whole new iteration.

Frostbite drops occur typically every 3 months (although we want to push to a faster cadence) and this has been happening for about 18 months.

Then why aren't you working with Frostbite 7?

Allan Schumacher wrote...

If we don't hear anything by E3 it could only mean one thing, that DA3
is officially in development hell and will likely be the next Duke Nukem
Forever.

Well we still have a few more years before we reach Dragon Age: Origins type of timetable, and that was with an in house engine people were familiar with.

But that also encompassed the creation of the entire world and its lore and everything else that comes with creating a new IP.

Modifié par BasilKarlo, 30 mars 2013 - 06:02 .

[Steppenwolf]

Filament wrote...

Logically not every "drop" consists of enough changes to warrant calling it a new version of Frostbite.

Exactly. If the jump from FB2 to FB3 were only as substantial as those other "drops" it wouldn't be FB3.

[Fredward]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

I don't buy the "Going from FB2 to FB3 has been the simplest transisition! We love EA and DICE!" line BioWare has been pushing. They were already working with a new engine, are likely developing for next-gen alongside current-gen, and then their engine gets updated to a whole new iteration.

Frostbite drops occur typically every 3 months (although we want to push to a faster cadence) and this has been happening for about 18 months.

Then why aren't you working with Frostbite 7?

Allan Schumacher wrote...

If we don't hear anything by E3 it could only mean one thing, that DA3
is officially in development hell and will likely be the next Duke Nukem
Forever.

Well we still have a few more years before we reach Dragon Age: Origins type of timetable, and that was with an in house engine people were familiar with.

But that also encompassed the creation of the entire world and its lore and everything else that comes with creating a new IP.

You seem like an awfully bitter person Basil and I confess confusion as to why you're here if you just hate everything.



I don't actually know what the Frostbite 3 engine looks like and I'm too lazy to just google it BUT if it's even better than Frostbite 2 I am preparing for continuous eyegasms.

[Steppenwolf]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

You seem like an awfully bitter person Basil and I confess confusion as to why you're here if you just hate everything.

I don't actually know what the Frostbite 3 engine looks like and I'm too lazy to just google it BUT if it's even better than Frostbite 2 I am preparing for continuous eyegasms.

The hell are you talking about? I haven't said that I hate anything in this discussion.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Well, it's still Spring for a while so we might get lucky. I'm not gonna hold my breath though.

E3 is still in Spring, technically.

True. If we don't hear anything at E3 then I'd say it'll most definitely be a 2014 release.

If we don't hear anything by E3 it could only mean one thing, that DA3 is officially in development hell and will likely be the next Duke Nukem Forever.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the FB3 engine is kicking their asses. I don't buy the "Going from FB2 to FB3 has been the simplest transisition! We love EA and DICE!" line BioWare has been pushing. They were already working with a new engine, are likely developing for next-gen alongside current-gen, and then their engine gets updated to a whole new iteration. I don't think things are zooming along. It's hard enough making a game on a modified engine you're familiar with, let alone a modified version of an engine you're never worked with. I still think the game is behind schedule and the book's release date(as given by the publisher) and the change in engine mid-development are just more reason to believe that IMO.

you're assuming a change of engine is such a big deal, hell some games (Mechwarrior Online) did it AFTER release with a patch...

[ElitePinecone]

Tommyspa wrote...

Pelican34 wrote...

It just doesn't make sense. Who announces a novel more than a year ahead of release? They also likely wouldn't have cover finalized this far out and that doesn't look like a placeholder.

Its why some of us on here are thinking Barnes and Noble's date of June 2, 2013 is possible.

The publisher wouldn't get the publication date of their own novel wrong in its announcement post, ffs.

It's April 2014.