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[Allan Schumacher]

Then why aren't you working with Frostbite 7?

Because no one is calling it that. Someone somewhere decided that the engine has changed enough to call it Frostbite 3.

But that also encompassed the creation of the entire world and its lore and everything else that comes with creating a new IP.

Really? Or was the game mired in some level of "development hell?"

Exactly. If the jump from FB2 to FB3 were only as substantial as those other "drops" it wouldn't be FB3.

Incorrect. If it makes you feel better, consider each drop to have been an increment. So we really went from Frostbite 2.9 to Frostbite 3.0. Unfortunately, no games were released on Frostbite 2.9 so it's kind of not really all that interesting to people.

The increment happened simply because the engine is in a state where enough has changed from Frostbite 2, as a result of all of the changes that have happened to the engine between Frostbite 2's release and Frostbite 3.

It's a name.

[Tommyspa]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

Pelican34 wrote...

It just doesn't make sense. Who announces a novel more than a year ahead of release? They also likely wouldn't have cover finalized this far out and that doesn't look like a placeholder.

Its why some of us on here are thinking Barnes and Noble's date of June 2, 2013 is possible.

The publisher wouldn't get the publication date of their own novel wrong in its announcement post, ffs.

It's April 2014.

Stranger things have happened. Besides I only said "possible". How many novels from things that aren't absurdly popular franchises have art and title finalized a year in advance of a book being published. Can't pretend it isn't strange. Blame Barnes and Noble, no need for an over corrective comment for some ungodly reason.

[ElitePinecone]

Sorry, just a little over the atmosphere of constant paranoid conspiracy that dominates these forums. People alternatively disregard very clear official statements or build up flimsy rumours to an absurd degree to suit their hopes (or prejudices), and it's frustrating.

Take the Gamestop 'release list' that had DA3 out in June this year, totally ignore EA, Mike Laidlaw, David Gaider and Chris Priestly - who have all said late 2013 is their current target - mix in a placeholder from Barnes & Noble that listed The Masked Empire as on sale in July this year, add a bunch of groundless assumptions ("they'll totally release the book close to DA3!") and it's a recipe for hopes and expectations that are totally divorced from reality.

[clst]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Sorry, just a little over the atmosphere of constant paranoid conspiracy that dominates these forums. People alternatively disregard very clear official statements or build up flimsy rumours to an absurd degree to suit their hopes (or prejudices), and it's frustrating.

Take the Gamestop 'release list' that had DA3 out in June this year, totally ignore EA, Mike Laidlaw, David Gaider and Chris Priestly - who have all said late 2013 is their current target - mix in a placeholder from Barnes & Noble that listed The Masked Empire as on sale in July this year, add a bunch of groundless assumptions ("they'll totally release the book close to DA3!") and it's a recipe for hopes and expectations that are totally divorced from reality.

it's right  they'll release the book close to da3 and the book is announce april 2014 >>> cqfd for da3 >> apreil or may 2014

[Blackrising]

clst wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Sorry, just a little over the atmosphere of constant paranoid conspiracy that dominates these forums. People alternatively disregard very clear official statements or build up flimsy rumours to an absurd degree to suit their hopes (or prejudices), and it's frustrating.

Take the Gamestop 'release list' that had DA3 out in June this year, totally ignore EA, Mike Laidlaw, David Gaider and Chris Priestly - who have all said late 2013 is their current target - mix in a placeholder from Barnes & Noble that listed The Masked Empire as on sale in July this year, add a bunch of groundless assumptions ("they'll totally release the book close to DA3!") and it's a recipe for hopes and expectations that are totally divorced from reality.

it's right  they'll release the book close to da3 and the book is announce april 2014 >>> cqfd for da3 >> apreil or may 2014

Please, continue making unfounded assumptions and claim they're the truth.
I do so love that.

[Absafraginlootly]

clst wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Sorry, just a little over the atmosphere of constant paranoid conspiracy that dominates these forums. People alternatively disregard very clear official statements or build up flimsy rumours to an absurd degree to suit their hopes (or prejudices), and it's frustrating.

Take the Gamestop 'release list' that had DA3 out in June this year, totally ignore EA, Mike Laidlaw, David Gaider and Chris Priestly - who have all said late 2013 is their current target - mix in a placeholder from Barnes & Noble that listed The Masked Empire as on sale in July this year, add a bunch of groundless assumptions ("they'll totally release the book close to DA3!") and it's a recipe for hopes and expectations that are totally divorced from reality.

it's right  they'll release the book close to da3 and the book is announce april 2014 >>> cqfd for da3 >> apreil or may 2014

Why does DA:I have to be on or around the release of the book? Dragon Age II was released March 2011 then Asunder was released December 2011, who's to say that the new book isn't coming out months after Dragon Age Inquisition too?

We just have no idea.

[TheBlackAdder13]

Absafraginlootly wrote...

clst wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Sorry, just a little over the atmosphere of constant paranoid conspiracy that dominates these forums. People alternatively disregard very clear official statements or build up flimsy rumours to an absurd degree to suit their hopes (or prejudices), and it's frustrating.

Take the Gamestop 'release list' that had DA3 out in June this year, totally ignore EA, Mike Laidlaw, David Gaider and Chris Priestly - who have all said late 2013 is their current target - mix in a placeholder from Barnes & Noble that listed The Masked Empire as on sale in July this year, add a bunch of groundless assumptions ("they'll totally release the book close to DA3!") and it's a recipe for hopes and expectations that are totally divorced from reality.

it's right  they'll release the book close to da3 and the book is announce april 2014 >>> cqfd for da3 >> apreil or may 2014

Why does DA:I have to be on or around the release of the book? Dragon Age II was released March 2011 then Asunder was released December 2011, who's to say that the new book isn't coming out months after Dragon Age Inquisition too?

We just have no idea.

The difference is that Asunder wasn't a prequel to DA 2, it's a prequel to DA 3. Likewise, this book is clearly another prequel to DA 3 so it seems bizzarre that it would be released after the game. 

[ElitePinecone]

TheBlackAdder13 wrote...
Likewise, this book is clearly another prequel to DA 3 so it seems bizzarre that it would be released after the game. 

Granted, this could be true if we had the slightest idea what DA3's storyline actually involved, or where the novel ends up. The extraordinarily sketchy synopses of DA3 that were leaked late last year referred to an Orlesian civil war, as did Asunder, and one of the potential companions could be a hook into the elven rebelion plotline.

That doesn't preclude Masked Empire from telling a totally different story unrelated to the parts we see in Inquisition, or ending plot-wise right where the game begins, or tying into DLC, or simply providing more context to a civil war that may form a fairly hefty chunk of DA3.

I just find it... strange... that the response by some posters to unanswered questions about the novel's ties to DA3 is to all of a sudden presume that the publication date given is wrong, that DA3's announced release window target is wrong, or both. 

(Also, did anyone mention that Patrick Weekes only recently finished launching his own novel, and has been working on Mass Effect 3 DLC and DA3 besides? Not a lot of time in there, I would guess, to finish a DA3 novel for release six months from now.)

[TheBlackAdder13]

The extraordinarily sketchy synopses of DA3 that were leaked late last year referred to an Orlesian civil war, as did Asunder, and one of the potential companions could be a hook into the elven rebelion plotline.

That doesn't preclude Masked Empire from telling a totally different story unrelated to the parts we see in Inquisition, or ending plot-wise right where the game begins, or tying into DLC, or simply providing more context to a civil war that may form a fairly hefty chunk of DA3.

Everything you just described is prequel material, which is why it would be odd to release it after the game.

[Wickwrackscar]

Does anyone know how they did it with ME? Were all novels released so the storytime fit the release of the games? I read them, but I can't remember .

[Cirram55]

I didn't want to start this tangent by posting my doubts, so yep: sorry.
Just let me say that everything (at least from my part) I said was just speculation. I don't think anyone here has the presumption to know anything or to make accurate predictions.
As I said I'd much prefer to have the book available before the game to hype up a bit and gather more information, and to back this up I found that link in the other thread. Everyone is entitled to have their doubts, if you don't share them don't just assume that they're claiming the Truth. No one here said that July is set in stone and that April 2014 was a lie/mistake/whatever.

Ease up and let's wait for someone to clarify a bit.

[ElitePinecone]

General Distress wrote...

Does anyone know how they did it with ME? Were all novels released so the storytime fit the release of the games? I read them, but I can't remember .

The novels tended to follow their own storyline, the latest one wasn't related to ME3 at all (and, honestly, Deception was a bit of a mess in general). Revelation was released before ME1 and Ascension in the lead-up to ME2, but the novel series seemed to be following its main characters more than acting as a prequel for the games' plotlines. 

[legbamel]

TheBlackAdder13 wrote...

The extraordinarily sketchy synopses of DA3 that were leaked late last year referred to an Orlesian civil war, as did Asunder, and one of the potential companions could be a hook into the elven rebelion plotline.

That doesn't preclude Masked Empire from telling a totally different story unrelated to the parts we see in Inquisition, or ending plot-wise right where the game begins, or tying into DLC, or simply providing more context to a civil war that may form a fairly hefty chunk of DA3.

Everything you just described is prequel material, which is why it would be odd to release it after the game.

It's equally as likely that it will have spoilers for in-game events and simply provide context for and an expansion of the game's story and thus should not come out before DA:I itself.  See?  Speculation for all!

[Wickwrackscar]

ElitePinecone wrote...

General Distress wrote...

Does anyone know how they did it with ME? Were all novels released so the storytime fit the release of the games? I read them, but I can't remember .

The novels tended to follow their own storyline, the latest one wasn't related to ME3 at all (and, honestly, Deception was a bit of a mess in general). Revelation was released before ME1 and Ascension in the lead-up to ME2, but the novel series seemed to be following its main characters more than acting as a prequel for the games' plotlines. 

Well, then I guess we'll just have to do what we do best: Wait for more information and clarification. The novel's release might correlate with the game's release or it might not.

To bring this thread back to the topic of tweets:

Anyone else afraid of April 1st? They know that we're thirsty for information and basically ready to believe anything. I picture tweets announcing fake trailers, fake game release dates or other misinformation.

I also picture myself rolling on the floor crying.

[Sovano]

General Distress wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

General Distress wrote...

Does anyone know how they did it with ME? Were all novels released so the storytime fit the release of the games? I read them, but I can't remember .

The novels tended to follow their own storyline, the latest one wasn't related to ME3 at all (and, honestly, Deception was a bit of a mess in general). Revelation was released before ME1 and Ascension in the lead-up to ME2, but the novel series seemed to be following its main characters more than acting as a prequel for the games' plotlines. 

Well, then I guess we'll just have to do what we do best: Wait for more information and clarification. The novel's release might correlate with the game's release or it might not.

To bring this thread back to the topic of tweets:

Anyone else afraid of April 1st? They know that we're thirsty for information and basically ready to believe anything. I picture tweets announcing fake trailers, fake game release dates or other misinformation.

I also picture myself rolling on the floor crying.

to be honest I would be happy to see them do it don't ask me why I really  don't know

[Nerdage]

Sovano wrote...

General Distress wrote...

Anyone else afraid of April 1st? They know that we're thirsty for information and basically ready to believe anything. I picture tweets announcing fake trailers, fake game release dates or other misinformation.

I also picture myself rolling on the floor crying.

to be honest I would be happy to see them do it don't ask me why I really  don't know

The swtor team did it and it was pretty good fun I thought, especially this one. They put real effort into their nonsense. I imagine the DA team could do a great one left to their own devices, but I expect they're a bit busy..

[Blankeflos]

‏@davidgaider
Back in Edmonton! Now to start my 6 weeks of sabbatical. Can't wait.

Sooo... Does it actually mean writing in DA:I is done?

[BioFan (Official)]

Blackrising wrote...

clst wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Sorry, just a little over the atmosphere of constant paranoid conspiracy that dominates these forums. People alternatively disregard very clear official statements or build up flimsy rumours to an absurd degree to suit their hopes (or prejudices), and it's frustrating.

Take the Gamestop 'release list' that had DA3 out in June this year, totally ignore EA, Mike Laidlaw, David Gaider and Chris Priestly - who have all said late 2013 is their current target - mix in a placeholder from Barnes & Noble that listed The Masked Empire as on sale in July this year, add a bunch of groundless assumptions ("they'll totally release the book close to DA3!") and it's a recipe for hopes and expectations that are totally divorced from reality.

it's right  they'll release the book close to da3 and the book is announce april 2014 >>> cqfd for da3 >> apreil or may 2014

Please, continue making unfounded assumptions and claim they're the truth.
I do so love that.

Hey guys,

[Steppenwolf]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

But that also encompassed the creation of the entire world and its lore and everything else that comes with creating a new IP.

Really? Or was the game mired in some level of "development hell?"

Are you asking me or telling me?

Absafraginlootly wrote...

Why does DA:I have to be on or
around the release of the book? Dragon Age II was released March 2011
then Asunder was released December 2011, who's to say that the new book
isn't coming out months after Dragon Age Inquisition too?

We just have no idea.

We were supposed to get more Dragon Age ][ content in the form of an expansion. Origins' expansion got a book. See where I'm going?

[DragonMage95]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Sorry, just a little over the atmosphere of constant paranoid conspiracy that dominates these forums. People alternatively disregard very clear official statements or build up flimsy rumours to an absurd degree to suit their hopes (or prejudices), and it's frustrating.

Take the Gamestop 'release list' that had DA3 out in June this year, totally ignore EA, Mike Laidlaw, David Gaider and Chris Priestly - who have all said late 2013 is their current target - mix in a placeholder from Barnes & Noble that listed The Masked Empire as on sale in July this year, add a bunch of groundless assumptions ("they'll totally release the book close to DA3!") and it's a recipe for hopes and expectations that are totally divorced from reality.

I don't think any one here has been creating a "paranoid conspiracy" to suit their hopes. In my posts I clearly said they were rumors and I haven't tried to build them up at all. Sorry to frustrate you, but people are doing a little thing called speculating.I don't see any harm in that. Also, last time I checked no one was ignoring EA or the DA developers, like I said it's speculating.I trust what they say but speculating gives a lot of us something to talk about considering we don't have any DA3 information to talk about.

[DragonMage95]

Blankeflos wrote...

‏@davidgaider
Back in Edmonton! Now to start my 6 weeks of sabbatical. Can't wait.

Sooo... Does it actually mean writing in DA:I is done?

@Ryan Loe I'm spending the evening watching movies while going over #DA3 character and plot documentation. Looking good writers.

Maybe?

Modifié par DomRod95, 30 mars 2013 - 07:07 .

[Reznore57]

From DG Tumblr :

"I’m about to head into a much-needed sabbatical, a bit of a break before work on DA3 will shift into crunch."

So it seems the writing is not done , though I guess he will still work on promoting the game etc..
So I'm not sure his work will be done before a loooong time.
Anyway DG wrote a nice blog about his GDC "sex talk " :
http://dgaider.tumbl...nally-i-do-good

Kind of funny having to think about death threat before doing a talk ...there are days, I just really don't envy them.
But anyway mostly it's a nice read , full of optimism.