Releasing a CC demo is way easier than releasing a gameplay demo. Why give us nothing in the next 5 months?
On what knowledge are you basing that assumption?
And why do they have to give us anything? I reckon people should be pleased that the game will be better for the delay, rather than asking for some kind of consolation prize.
On what knowledge are you basing that assumption?
And why do they have to give us anything? I reckon people should be pleased that the game will be better for the delay, rather than asking for some kind of consolation prize.
I don't know, it just wouldn't feel like a AAA game if it didn't ship with an entire ecosystem worth of bugs.
How do you know it's not?
How do you know that he doesn't know you know how it is easy to make a CC demo?
Maybe he knows that you don't know that he doesn't know how it is easy to make a CC demo.
I know that I don't know how you know that he knows how easy it is make a CC demo.
A lot of fans want it so why not. Is 5 months not a lot of time?
We have no idea how much time or effort it would take to do such a thing. I'm sure they want to aim all of their time, resources and personal towards polishing the game and fixing the various bugs. They delayed it for a reason. I highly doubt they'd delay it, only to divert precious man hours and resources to a demo.
Frankly, I don't need a demo of any kind. Let the team spend their resources in a way that they deem necessary to produce the best game possible.
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We have no idea how much time or effort it would take to do such a thing. I'm sure they want to aim all of their time, resources and personal towards polishing the game and fixing the various bugs. They delayed it for a reason. I highly doubt they'd delay it, only to divert precious man hours and resources to a demo.
Frankly, I don't need a demo of any kind. Let the team spend their resources in a way that they deem necessary to produce the best game possible.
How do you know it's not?
The decision to make a demo is one of the most disruptive events that can happen in the timeline of the development of a game. They will derail development for the majority of the team due to the need to treat it like a mini-release for a full game. Content and Code each have to be locked down, forcing developers who are otherwise madly working overtime to come to a sudden and screeching halt. Ideally codebases need to be branched (and if they're not, that's even more disruptive). They need to be given a rigorous QA pass (and then sent to first parties for their ceritification pass). All the while, development on the full game continues, and due to the timeline of releasing a demo before the main game (I assume this is what you are asking for, rather than the release of a demo after the game release), all demo issues take priority over issues with the main game, further disrupting main game development.
And contrary to what an earlier poster implies, it takes significantly more than 5 people.
As a (perhaps somewhat appropriate) corollary, if I tell my students I'm going to have their papers back to them by, say, Tuesday, if I have to bump that date up to Thursday or Friday it's because that's the date I'll realistically be able to have them done by if I do nothing but work in those intervening days.
So my guess is Bioware's team is only delaying launch as much as they absolutely have to to fix things, because they want this thing done with just as much as we do, if not more.
The decision to make a demo is one of the most disruptive events that can happen in the timeline of the development of a game. They will derail development for the majority of the team due to the need to treat it like a mini-release for a full game. Content and Code each have to be locked down, forcing developers who are otherwise madly working overtime to come to a sudden and screeching halt. Ideally codebases need to be branched (and if they're not, that's even more disruptive). They need to be given a rigorous QA pass (and then sent to first parties for their ceritification pass). All the while, development on the full game continues, and due to the timeline of releasing a demo before the main game (I assume this is what you are asking for, rather than the release of a demo after the game release), all demo issues take priority over issues with the main game, further disrupting main game development.
And contrary to what an earlier poster implies, it takes significantly more than 5 people.
It was a rough number I decided to pick..wasn't implying it only took 5 people to do, just it'd be at least 5 and most likely a lot more who couldn't work on the game..
As a (perhaps somewhat appropriate) corollary, if I tell my students I'm going to have their papers back to them by, say, Tuesday, if I have to bump that date up to Thursday or Friday it's because that's the date I'll realistically be able to have them done by if I do nothing but work in those intervening days.
So my guess is Bioware's team is only delaying launch as much as they absolutely have to to fix things, because they want this thing done with just as much as we do, if not more.
In your instance though I don't think your students would get mad about waiting a couple more days to find out how badly they did
In your instance though I don't think your students would get mad about waiting a couple more days to find out how badly they did
You'd be surprised! Although to be fair, there are other voices in the room who tell me to take my time for that exact reason. 
I think most of my day is now spent trading bugs and features details with @Ryan_Treadwell. It's like a nerd currency. I'm a nerd broker :-)
Ryan Treadwell @Ryan_Treadwell
It's almost kinda fun! I'll give you 3 LOC bugs for a Change Request.
The decision to make a demo is one of the most disruptive events that can happen in the timeline of the development of a game. They will derail development for the majority of the team due to the need to treat it like a mini-release for a full game. Content and Code each have to be locked down, forcing developers who are otherwise madly working overtime to come to a sudden and screeching halt. Ideally codebases need to be branched (and if they're not, that's even more disruptive). They need to be given a rigorous QA pass (and then sent to first parties for their ceritification pass). All the while, development on the full game continues, and due to the timeline of releasing a demo before the main game (I assume this is what you are asking for, rather than the release of a demo after the game release), all demo issues take priority over issues with the main game, further disrupting main game development.
And contrary to what an earlier poster implies, it takes significantly more than 5 people.
And all that work for something that statistically reduces sales.
Will there also be an elven servant to rest my feet on? Just to get that Dragon Age flavour.
Dragon Age @dragonage
Come sit on the #DAI Skyhold Throne at #SDCC! Maybe we’ll even give one away later on down the road…
As cool as it looks my back hurts just looking at the thing.
If/when I become Emperor my throne will be a basket chair.
"Good chair, good chair....nice lumbar support...great view of...utter blackness."
As cool as it looks my back hurts just looking at the thing.
If/when I become Emperor my throne will be a basket chair.
"A king should never sit easy" - somebody somewhere in ASoIF (Possibly paraphrasing)
"A king should never sit easy" - somebody somewhere in ASoIF (Possibly paraphrasing)
Aegon Targaryen I, aka Aegon the Conqueror
See also, "Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown", Henry IV, Part 2. Slightly different subtext, but hey.
Knew it had to be the same guy that decided to make an iron chair out of swordsAegon Targaryen I, aka Aegon the Conqueror
See also, "Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown", Henry IV, Part 2. Slightly different subtext, but hey.
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