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[Lobos1988]

well I think bragging about how cool it all looks is kind off telling stuff ^^...

[Meatbaggins]

Fast Jimmy wrote...
Bioware seems to follow the exact opposite approach - after all, through Twitter, Commander Shepherd was officially killed, Indoctrination Theory was officially destroyed and the Refuse ending was invalidated.

What tweets are you talking about? I know Emily Wong was killed through twitter, but I didn't see any of those.

[Steppenwolf]

Lobos1988 wrote...

well I think bragging about how cool it all looks is kind off telling stuff ^^...

Yeah, saying how awesome the game looks without showing us how awesome it looks it telling, not showing. They haven't stuck with their "show, don't tell" policy one little bit.

[Chris Priestly]

BasilKarlo wrote...
Yeah, saying how awesome the game looks without showing us how awesome it looks it telling, not showing. They haven't stuck with their "show, don't tell" policy one little bit.

Sorry, I disagree. We have stuck to the policy 100%.

Neither BioWare nor Dragon Age has said officially how awesome it looks in interviews, on our channels, etc (unless I have missed something. If so, please point it out). If you are choosing to follow staff via our personal channels in unofficial capacity where we talk about how good it is or similar, that is not the same thing anymore than if Mark Darrah says "I like McDonald's fries" makes McDonalds the official fries of Dragon Age.

There is no harm in you following staff to see what we say about our work, jobs, lives, etc but do not confuse that for "official word from BioWare". It is not the same thing.

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 30 avril 2013 - 10:38 .

[Steppenwolf]

Chris Priestly wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...
Yeah, saying how awesome the game looks without showing us how awesome it looks it telling, not showing. They haven't stuck with their "show, don't tell" policy one little bit.

Sorry, I disagree. We have stuck to the policy 100%.

Neither BioWare nor Dragon Age has said officially how awesome it looks in interviews, on our channels, etc (unless I have missed something. If so, please point it out). If you are choosing to follow staff via our personal channels in unofficial capacity where we talk about how good it is or similar, that is not the same thing anymore than if Mark Darrah says "I like McDonald's fries" makes McDonalds the official fries of Dragon Age.

There is no harm in you following staff to see what we say about our work, jobs, lives, etc but do not confuse that for "official word from BioWare". It is not the same thing.

That defense holds no water IMO. If it's just supposed to be personal expressions and not  taken as official statements from developers then why is #DA3 always used in those tweets? That was established as the official hash tag when Inquisition was announced and it's used to keep all things Inquisition readily accessible.

[Chris Priestly]

BasilKarlo wrote...

That defense holds no water IMO. If it's just supposed to be personal expressions and not  taken as official statements from developers then why is #DA3 always used in those tweets? That was established as the official hash tag when Inquisition was announced and it's used to keep all things Inquisition readily accessible.

If people truely believe this, as Online Event Coordinator, I will have the Dragon Age team go dark on their Twitter accounts involving work. No more DA week or Sprint Review Day or similar.

I believe that most people can tell the difference between "BioWare says" and "Mike Laidlaw tweeted", but if that is causing confusion or misinformation being spread by us, however inadvertly, I will work with the team to make sure we stick to the "show not tell" comment that we are all following.

Who else feels like BasilKarlo does?

[Steppenwolf]

Chris Priestly wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

That defense holds no water IMO. If it's just supposed to be personal expressions and not  taken as official statements from developers then why is #DA3 always used in those tweets? That was established as the official hash tag when Inquisition was announced and it's used to keep all things Inquisition readily accessible.

If people truely believe this, as Online Event Coordinator, I will have the Dragon Age team go dark on their Twitter accounts involving work. No more DA week or Sprint Review Day or similar.

I believe that most people can tell the difference between "BioWare says" and "Mike Laidlaw tweeted", but if that is causing confusion or misinformation being spread by us, however inadvertly, I will work with the team to make sure we stick to the "show not tell" comment that we are all following.

Who else feels like BasilKarlo does?

If someone from BioWare tweets about Dragon Age 3 and uses #DA3 in that tweet why would any reasonable person infer that that tweet has nothing to do with Dragon Age 3 or its development? Should everything that's been said by developers about the game up to this point be totally discounted since nothing but the game's engine and title has been "officially" announced?

[thats1evildude]

Chris Priestly wrote...

If people truely believe this, as Online Event Coordinator, I will have the Dragon Age team go dark on their Twitter accounts involving work. No more DA week or Sprint Review Day or similar.

Given the amount of speculation prompted that even random tweets generate, that would probably be for the best.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 30 avril 2013 - 11:06 .

[Enad]

Don't let the complainers get their way.

Keep up the DA Weeks and Sprint Reviews. These are just simple events where us fans can get some tidbits about the upcoming game.

We will get a DA3 reveal soon enough, everyone just needs to be patient and stop crying about everything Bioware does.

[DragonMage95]

Chris Priestly wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

That defense holds no water IMO. If it's just supposed to be personal expressions and not  taken as official statements from developers then why is #DA3 always used in those tweets? That was established as the official hash tag when Inquisition was announced and it's used to keep all things Inquisition readily accessible.

If people truely believe this, as Online Event Coordinator, I will have the Dragon Age team go dark on their Twitter accounts involving work. No more DA week or Sprint Review Day or similar.

I believe that most people can tell the difference between "BioWare says" and "Mike Laidlaw tweeted", but if that is causing confusion or misinformation being spread by us, however inadvertly, I will work with the team to make sure we stick to the "show not tell" comment that we are all following.

Who else feels like BasilKarlo does?

I personally like things like DA Week and Sprint Review Day and I hope you guys don't stop doing it. I don't get why there is annoyance or confusion.

[Steppenwolf]

Enad wrote...

Don't let the complainers get their way.

Keep up the DA Weeks and Sprint Reviews. These are just simple events where us fans can get some tidbits about the upcoming game.

We will get a DA3 reveal soon enough, everyone just needs to be patient and stop crying about everything Bioware does.

This is my point. They're telling us things about the game without showing us anything. I don't understand why Priestly seems so hellbent on defending their adherence to the "show, don't tell" policy when there is no reasonable way to defend it. At all. Trying to turn it around on me like I'm just unhappy about the tweets or sprint review days or whatever is childish.

[thats1evildude]

BasilKarlo wrote...

This is my point. They're telling us things about the game without showing us anything. I don't understand why Priestly seems so hellbent on defending their adherence to the "show, don't tell" policy when there is no reasonable way to defend it. At all. Trying to turn it around on me like I'm just unhappy about the tweets or sprint review days or whatever is childish.

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill, Clayface. And for no apparent reason, unless your goal actually IS to have Bioware suspend all work-related tweets.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 30 avril 2013 - 11:22 .

[Enad]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Enad wrote...

Don't let the complainers get their way.

Keep up the DA Weeks and Sprint Reviews. These are just simple events where us fans can get some tidbits about the upcoming game.

We will get a DA3 reveal soon enough, everyone just needs to be patient and stop crying about everything Bioware does.

This is my point. They're telling us things about the game without showing us anything. I don't understand why Priestly seems so hellbent on defending their adherence to the "show, don't tell" policy when there is no reasonable way to defend it. At all. Trying to turn it around on me like I'm just unhappy about the tweets or sprint review days or whatever is childish.

Why does it matter so much to you? You don't seem very fond of Bioware so why are you so concerned with their actions? 

They probably are going to use the 'Show don't tell' motto once the reveal occurs, not before.

[Case Alexander]

I don't think they've really been telling us anything. All the tweets from the DA Weeks and Sprint Reviews have been hints and teases, but nothing substantial has ever been mentioned short of the DA3 and Frostbite announcements. So in that sense they have adhered to their policy. Anything that was gained from these tweets has been speculation at best.

[Steppenwolf]

thats1evildude wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

This is my point. They're telling us things about the game without showing us anything. I don't understand why Priestly seems so hellbent on defending their adherence to the "show, don't tell" policy when there is no reasonable way to defend it. At all. Trying to turn it around on me like I'm just unhappy about the tweets or sprint review days or whatever is childish.

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill, Clayface. And for no apparent reason, unless your goal actually IS to have Bioware suspend all work-related tweets.

This is more chilshishness. I pointed out that BioWare hasn't been sticking to their own policy of showing us the game instead of telling us about the game. This is irrefutable. We know that we'll be forced to be human, have a choice of non-playable origins for our PC, that the game is larger than Origins, that portions of the game take place in Orlais and that companions will have aesthetically customizable armor. There's more, but those are all substantial bits of information that have been disclosed without showing us anything.
Why must I have some goal in pointing this out, let alone a goal of depriving others of information about the game in the future? Chris Priestly made the mountain out of the mole hill when he decided that pointing out the company's failure to stick to its own policy means you hate it when the developers talk about the game.

[nightscrawl]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I believe that most people can tell the difference between "BioWare says" and "Mike Laidlaw tweeted", but if that is causing confusion or misinformation being spread by us, however inadvertly, I will work with the team to make sure we stick to the "show not tell" comment that we are all following.

Who else feels like BasilKarlo does?

Noooooo please don't . Those are the only things keeping most of us sane.

[serenai]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Who else feels like BasilKarlo does?

For the record, I do NOT feel as BasilKarlo does.

You have not "told" us a single blessed thing.

The tweets are a fun dev/community interaction while we wait - and that is all. 

Everyone else appears to understand this. 

I would hate for one person to attempt to halt something that is so enjoyable to most of the people visiting this thread.. not to mention the devs who get to do the tweeting.

[sandalisthemaker]

Chris Priestly wrote...


Who else feels like BasilKarlo does?

Ew. Not me.

[CrazyRah]

I'm perfectly happy as it is right now. The sprint reviews and DA week bring small bits of information that i enjoy reading and sometimes some speculation on what a #nocontext tweet can mean. I take little to nothing that's being said on the devs personal twitter account as official information.

Modifié par CrazyRah, 30 avril 2013 - 11:49 .

[Face of Evil]

Basil, stop trying to take away our nice things.

[Steppenwolf]

Face of Evil wrote...

Basil, stop trying to take away our nice things.

Would you people learn how to read? I never said the devs should stop tweeting about the game. I said they haven't stuck to their own policy of showing us the game instead of telling us about it. My earlier post shows that to be true, they haven't stuck to the policy at all. Chris Priestly decided to skirt the subject by insinuating I'm raging against the devs tweeting things or discussing the game outside of official announcements. That was childish of him and it's childish of all of you to just jump on me for something I never even said.

[Lobos1988]

omg... small comments seem to get out of hand really fast in here ...

of course I don't want those tweets to stop... I was just a little irritated... every time I read "The game looks awesome" I really ache for anything I can judge for myself...

that being said, keep up the sprint review... I'll just start biting my fingernails then ^^

[sandalisthemaker]

Lobos1988 wrote...

omg... small comments seem to get out of hand really fast in here ...

You must be new here.

*looks at join date*
Oh, you are new here.