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[CuriousArtemis]

Hrungr wrote...

DA3: You can only play as human.

Bah!

Yeah I can't even believe how much this blows. My interest in the game just plummeted 

[Hrungr]

Though I'm sure this isn't news to most, they confirmed DA is not a trilogy, there will be more...

[Hrungr]

motomotogirl wrote...

Hrungr wrote...

DA3: You can only play as human.

Bah!

Yeah I can't even believe how much this blows. My interest in the game just plummeted 

Yeah, this is definitely the first big letdown I've heard for DA3.

[CuriousArtemis]

Hrungr wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Hrungr wrote...

DA3: You can only play as human.

Bah!

Yeah I can't even believe how much this blows. My interest in the game just plummeted 

Yeah, this is definitely the first big letdown I've heard for DA3.

I guess they don't mind shaftin the small minority who play elves and dwarves... no sense pleasing the minority if you can spend resources elsewhere to please the majority

[upsettingshorts]

Human only + backgrounds works fine for me.

motomotogirl wrote...

I guess they don't mind shaftin the small minority who play elves and dwarves... no sense pleasing the minority if you can spend resources elsewhere to please the majority

And/or it's probably a Hawke thing where fixing some elements of the protagonist allows them to be a more integrated part of the world.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:58 .

[Atakuma]

That's not even remotely surprising to me. Race choices were incredibly unlikely.

Modifié par Atakuma, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:55 .

[Hrungr]

The Qunari are not the focus but we will learn more about them.
(No surprise...)

Q: "Are we going to see Flemeth again? Please?"
A: Mike Laidlaw says "It would FEEL wrong not to have some Flemeth."

[Masha Potato]

Hrungr wrote...

DA3: You can only play as human.

Bah!

i'll be in a sad corner 

[Brockololly]

So long as they have a voiced PC and they're going to have the different races with different accents, they're never going to have race selection.

I don't know that the comment on one of DA3's levels being as big as all of DA2's levels is as much a comment on DA3 as it is DA2 however. That's not saying much.

Modifié par Brockololly, 20 octobre 2012 - 07:00 .

[The Elder King]

Having no other playable race isn't that big news. In the thread Darrah opened some months ago, he or someone else said that they'd probably make only one playable race. Chances to play as dwarves and elves were almost none.
I'd have liked to play with different races, but I already knew it wouldn't happen in DA3. It's nice though to have backgrounds. I hope they'll have a bigger role than the ME's backgrounds.
I hope that there'll be the possibility to take control of a caste in DA3 .

[Atakuma]

scyphozoa wrote...

The larger areas and Hawke as an NPC does have me pretty excited though. I can't wait to see the new areas in DA3, I expect they will be radically different from what we've seen in DA2.

I just can't see how having either of the two protagonists appear is going to work.

[Palipride47]

Hrungr wrote...

David answering "backgrounds will be in DA3 even though you will be human, it's not playable but it does significant impact on the story"

Previous protagonists might appear as NPCs.

Wait, so we will only get to play humans, dawww 

What is more disconcerting is: "backgrounds will be in DA3 even though you will be human, it's not playable but it does significant impact on the story"

So, like if I was Hawke, and traisped about Lothering but was just watching it from the outside? BOO!!!! <_< Please say I am misinterpreting, PLEASE!!!!

[upsettingshorts]

Brockololly wrote...

So long as they have a voiced PC and they're going to have the different races with different accents, they're never going to have race selection.

Unless you know they decided to make the incredibly easy decision to unlink accents and regions.  All that would take is someone saying, "Accents are no longer linked to region races" and the rest of the room nodding.  Bam, done.

Stands to reason that isn't the kind of barrier you think it is.  I highly doubt their attachment to the concept is such they'd let it stand in the way of gameplay options.  More likely it is something else entirely.

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Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 20 octobre 2012 - 07:09 .

[upsettingshorts]

Palipride47 wrote...

What is more disconcerting is: "backgrounds will be in DA3 even though you will be human, it's not playable but it does significant impact on the story"

So, like if I was Hawke, and traisped about Lothering but was just watching it from the outside? BOO!!!! <_< Please say I am misinterpreting, PLEASE!!!!

The implication is Mass Effect-like backgrounds such as Spacer, Earthborn, Colonist, War Hero, Sole Survivor, and Ruthless.

You're still Shepard, human.  But how you got to be N7 and the Alliance's choice for Spectre nomination is something you set in character creation.

Brockololly wrote...

I don't know that the comment on one of DA3's levels being as big as all of DA2's levels is as much a comment on DA3 as it is DA2 however. That's not saying much.

Sure it is.  

How big would you say the Deep Roads in DAO is in comparison to "all DA2's levels combined?"  Did you like levels like the Deep Roads?  Did you think they were missing in DA2?  Well, that statement implies levels like them are coming back.

"That's not saying much" indeed.  This isn't an election Brock, you aren't here to earn votes by dismissing categorical statements by the opposition when they're contradictory to your own expectations and agenda.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 20 octobre 2012 - 07:07 .

[Hrungr]

scyphozoa wrote...

Yeah, I wanted to play as a Qunari. I don't really care about elves or dwarves, I wanted to have horns

oh well, I am interested in the player backgrounds they will have available.

I'm certainly curious as well but since they're not going to be playable it does cut a lot of the fun out it.

[Xeyska]

Humans again.  <_<

Meh, I figured as much.

Modifié par Xeyska, 20 octobre 2012 - 07:03 .

[Palipride47]

scyphozoa wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

The larger areas and Hawke as an NPC does have me pretty excited though. I can't wait to see the new areas in DA3, I expect they will be radically different from what we've seen in DA2.

I just can't see how having either of the two protagonists appear is going to work.

Hawke is easy to me. They have dialog and behavioral trackers for DA2, so I expect recreating the behavior of an imported Hawke would be pretty easy. I'm sure some people will still say "my Hawke wouldn't say/do that" but mechanically, I think it seems pretty do-able. 

I assume his/ her face is hooded or cloaked in some way then, I would not be a happy camper with a face import (nevermind the fact that a fair amount of PC users have appearance mods)

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

What is more disconcerting is: "backgrounds will be in DA3 even though you will be human, it's not playable but it does significant impact on the story"

So, like if I was Hawke, and traisped about Lothering but was just watching it from the outside? BOO!!!!<_<  Please say I am misinterpreting, PLEASE!!!!

The implication is Mass Effect-like backgrounds such as Spacer, Earthborn, Colonist, War Hero, Sole Survivor, and Ruthless.

You're still Shepard, human.  But how you got to be N7 and the Alliance's choice for Spectre nomination is something you set in character creation.

Ah, ok. That is an acceptable compromise (to me, at least)

*EDIT: Add to separate post, ya'll too fast*

Modifié par Palipride47, 20 octobre 2012 - 07:07 .

[Brockololly]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
Unless you know they decided to make the incredibly easy decision to unlink accents and regions.  All that would take is someone saying, "Accents are no longer linked to regions" and the rest of the room nodding.  Bam, done.

Stands to reason that isn't the kind of barrier you think it is.  I highly doubt their attachment to the concept is such they'd let it stand in the way of gameplay options.  More likely it is something else entirely.

Oh sure, they could do that. But it would still strike me as odd having a dwarf character with the same voice as an elf and the same voice as a human or qunari. They certainly could do that, but I doubt it given how they specifically redesigned things like the dalish with Welsh accents and so forth.

Lack of race selection likely has a good deal to do with all the work it would require cinematics to do as well, what with racial size differences too.

[Palipride47]

Brockololly wrote...

So long as they have a voiced PC and they're going to have the different races with different accents, they're never going to have race selection. ....

I direct your attention to this:

http://dragonage.wik...Dragon_Age_III?

Modifié par Palipride47, 20 octobre 2012 - 07:06 .

[upsettingshorts]

Brockololly wrote...

Oh sure, they could do that. But it would still strike me as odd having a dwarf character with the same voice as an elf and the same voice as a human or qunari. They certainly could do that, but I doubt it given how they specifically redesigned things like the dalish with Welsh accents and so forth.

They could just link it to area instead of race and it'd make perfect sense and not restrict racial choices at all, only likely prevent something like origin prologues as those take place in different locations.

So you could conceivably have a city elf, casteless dwarf, and human all from a human city.  But DA3 won't have that, so I'm assuming they simply want to integrate the DA3 protagonist in with other characters and the world in a similar way to Hawke.  Just a guess though.

Brockololly wrote...

Lack of race selection likely has a good deal to do with all the work it would require cinematics to do as well, what with racial size differences too.

Also likely.

[Atakuma]

Hopefully the backgrounds are truly significant and not just the basis for a very short quest like they were in Mass Effect.

[upsettingshorts]

Atakuma wrote...

Hopefully the backgrounds are truly significant and not just the basis for a very short quest like they were in Mass Effect.

Hopefully.

I would certainly expect them to matter at least as much as they did in Mass Effect 1.  ME2-3, being sequels with the same protagonist, didn't have as much room to work with.

DA3, given that we expect this protagonist will be another one-shot, won't have those restrictions like Shepard did.