David speaks German.Has me wondering if DG is multi-lingual? The roster seems to cover a wide range of possible languages.
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#76351
Posté 15 juin 2015 - 11:07
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#76352
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:15
#76353
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 05:35
Has me wondering if DG is multi-lingual? The roster seems to cover a wide range of possible languages.
There will be simultaneous interpreting ![]()
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#76355
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 06:21
BioWare fans never cease to astonish me.
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#76357
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 08:21
Did Patricks interview not get released yet?
#76358
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 08:50
Did Patricks interview not get released yet?
I checked the page's videos. Doesn't look like it...
#76359
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 08:52
Did Patricks interview not get released yet?
I checked the page's videos. Doesn't look like it...
I seem to recall there were some audio issues with Patrick's first interview...
#76360
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 09:01
I checked the page's videos. Doesn't look like it...
I don't think they'll be released very soon after one another, based on what the interviewer said in this forum post: http://forum.bioware...kes/?p=19245293
#76361
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:04
Patrick Weekes @PatrickWeekes
That point in the day when you start naming things "______ of the Fennc", "______ of the Nug." That's a good point in the day.
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#76362
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:12
User
so if the HoF won't be in DAI then would we possible get to play as them as a protagonist in future DA games instead?
Dragon Age has a new protagonist with every major chapter.
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#76363
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:49
User
so if the HoF won't be in DAI then would we possible get to play as them as a protagonist in future DA games instead?
Dragon Age has a new protagonist with every major chapter.
I wish this would change, especially when old characters tend to return. ![]()
#76364
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:50
User
so if the HoF won't be in DAI then would we possible get to play as them as a protagonist in future DA games instead?
Dragon Age has a new protagonist with every major chapter.
Meredith Trevelyan @Lady_Trevelyan
Does "major chapter" = game?
Mostly, but I don't want to muddy the water with things like Awakening, which is sorta-standalone.
Either way, people holding out hope that the HoF will be a big deal in the future should probably move on.
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#76365
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:52
User
Does "major chapter" = game?
Mostly, but I don't want to muddy the water with things like Awakening, which is sorta-standalone.
Either way, people holding out hope that the HoF will be a big deal in the future should probably move on.
Hey, my name isn't "User"! ![]()
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#76366
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:54
I wish this would change, especially when old characters tend to return.
I agree completely. I prefer ME's style of having one protagonist to develop over time, and the relationships to that protagonist that can naturally develop more than if you keep switching them. I call it "character-whiplash". Running into old characters is nice and all, but a lot of gravity and significance is lost when your current character has no emotional connection to them, and creates a disconnect since the player does. I want to see Alistair as the Warden, Varric as Hawke, etc.
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#76367
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:55
Hey, my name isn't "User"!
NINJA EDIT!
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#76368
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:57
*snip*
Either way, people holding out hope that the HoF will be a big deal in the future should probably move on.
Cue the heartbroken posts. Again.
#76369
Posté 16 juin 2015 - 11:58
User
Does "major chapter" = game?
Mostly, but I don't want to muddy the water with things like Awakening, which is sorta-standalone.
Either way, people holding out hope that the HoF will be a big deal in the future should probably move on.
It is really sad that they have to keep on saying this. The HOF isn’t coming back, let it go people. I do wish they would change their attitude to never using past protagonists again however, unless there is a very good reason why a certain character can't be used again in a new role it just seems like they're making their jobs a lot harder since unless they 100% draw a line under a character they have to continue involving them in the story/world to a degree whether it’s through codex entries or little side quests.
#76370
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 12:06
I agree completely. I prefer ME's style of having one protagonist to develop over time, and the relationships to that protagonist that can naturally develop more than if you keep switching them. I call it "character-whiplash". Running into old characters is nice and all, but a lot of gravity and significance is lost when your current character has no emotional connection to them, and creates a disconnect since the player does. I want to see Alistair as the Warden, Varric as Hawke, etc.
I get that they want Thedas to be the main "protagonist," but surly we can learn about Thedas through one protagonist. The relationships/story are everything to me in Dragon Age, but feels like we won't ever be able to really get close with the characters. I felt like my inquisitor couldn't get as close with Varric like Hawke did. He didn't feel like my friend in inquisition.
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#76371
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 12:17
I get that they want Thedas to be the main "protagonist," but surly we can learn about Thedas through one protagonist. The relationships/story are everything to me in Dragon Age, but feels like we won't ever be able to really get close with the characters. I felt like my inquisitor couldn't get as close with Varric like Hawke did. He didn't feel like my friend in inquisition.
I agree. Obviously, opinions will differ, but I haven't felt like I've gained much from having multiple protagonists. After all, I had no trouble learning about the ME 'verse with one. In fact, another reason I like that approach better is because Shepard seemed less like a complete ignoramus than DA's protagonists. Sure, in ME1, you didn't really know anything, but that's better than your DA characters all not knowing anything, game after game, even when the player does. Disconnects are bad.
The relationships/story are also the heart of why I play these games, and I hate that they suffer for having multiple protagonists, because I don't think the trade-off is worth it by any stretch. I felt like by the end of Inquisition, I was just getting to know the inner circle; just getting to be friends with Dorian, Cassandra, Cole, Cullen, Varric (and never got to the friendship Hawke had, like you said). Now I want to play as their friend, like I did in ME, not just treat being their friend as some endgame that has no reward. Saying "We're friends now" is great, but nothing compared to actually seeing the developed relationship in play. Just when that starts to happen, BAM! We start with a new cast again. This is a huge reason I'm desperate for story/character DLC.
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#76372
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 12:29
I get that they want Thedas to be the main "protagonist," but surly we can learn about Thedas through one protagonist. The relationships/story are everything to me in Dragon Age, but feels like we won't ever be able to really get close with the characters. I felt like my inquisitor couldn't get as close with Varric like Hawke did. He didn't feel like my friend in inquisition.
When I first heard DA2 was coming out and the HoF wasn't in it - my heart definitely sunk. And it was a double-gut-punch when I heard the only option was human.
But over the years I've actually come to embrace the new-protag-with-every-game approach. And now I like the "shiny-new fresh start" you get at the beginning of each game, even if it comes at a cost of not being able to watch your companions continue to grow over the series.
It's funny you should mention Varric and the Inquisitor, as he lost some of his witty edge in this game and kinda drifted into the background. But I can understand why he never really became your friend in DAI. Even apart from leaving Kirkwall in a state, he looks at you less like a person and more like a divine-touched being and that causes him to wrestle with his own faith throughout the game.
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#76373
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 01:07
Someone should ask Mike how far off they are from dropping bunch of rocks on non Ultimate Sacrifice HoF's.
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#76374
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 01:27
I agree. Obviously, opinions will differ, but I haven't felt like I've gained much from having multiple protagonists. After all, I had no trouble learning about the ME 'verse with one. In fact, another reason I like that approach better is because Shepard seemed less like a complete ignoramus than DA's protagonists. Sure, in ME1, you didn't really know anything, but that's better than your DA characters all not knowing anything, game after game, even when the player does. Disconnects are bad.
The relationships/story are also the heart of why I play these games, and I hate that they suffer for having multiple protagonists, because I don't think the trade-off is worth it by any stretch. I felt like by the end of Inquisition, I was just getting to know the inner circle; just getting to be friends with Dorian, Cassandra, Cole, Cullen, Varric (and never got to the friendship Hawke had, like you said). Now I want to play as their friend, like I did in ME, not just treat being their friend as some endgame that has no reward. Saying "We're friends now" is great, but nothing compared to actually seeing the developed relationship in play. Just when that starts to happen, BAM! We start with a new cast again. This is a huge reason I'm desperate for story/character DLC.
It's hard to connect with the protagonist, especially when you know that he/she won't be in the next game. I like Shepard as a protagonist, but I tend to prefer the fantasy/medieval type over the science fiction, but I would welcome a Shepard-like protagonist in the Dragon Age's world. It made sense for us to not know anything in ME1, since we were just getting into everything, which was great. That helped us grow and figure out things just like Shepard. It's great for role playing, since you can play your new protagonist as someone who would hate the old companion/npc that your old protagonist probably loved, but I agree, the disconnect is really bad.
X100 everything you said. The friendship/Love are always the reward, but we never get to go pass that. The WardenxMorrigan relationship is probably the only complete real relationship because of the Witch Hunt dlc. I'm thirsty for a new story/character dlc and a personal dlc for the inquisitor, something to define him/her as a character/person. Hopefully, DA4 protagonist can be the one to take the role of a "Shepard" protagonist.
When I first heard DA2 was coming out and the HoF wasn't in it - my heart definitely sunk. And it was a double-gut-punch when I heard the only option was human.
But over the years I've actually come to embrace the new-protag-with-every-game approach. And now I like the "shiny-new fresh start" you get at the beginning of each game, even if it comes at a cost of not being able to watch your companions continue to grow over the series.
It's funny you should mention Varric and the Inquisitor, as he also lost some of his witty edge in this game and kinda drifted into the background. But I can understand why he never really became your friend in DAI. Even apart from leaving Kirkwall in a state, he looks at you less like a person and more like a divine-touched being and that causes him to wrestle with his own faith throughout the game.
My heart was destroyed when I'd heard about the human only thing, but I ended up like Hawke more than my warden, but my Inquisitor is at the top, but he just needs something to make him more of character than a "tool" to drive the plot.
There is a way they could alter their new protagonist thing. For example, if we're going to be in the Southern Thedas for a while, we could have a set protagonist that we follow throughout our time in the south. We will learn about the southern Thedas, we will connect with the people around us, and most importantly, we will grow to love our protagonist. Since it's way too late for the south thing, we could still have a set protagonist for Northern Thedas.
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#76375
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 01:48
It's hard to connect with the protagonist, especially when you know that he/she won't be in the next game. I like Shepard as a protagonist, but I tend to prefer the fantasy/medieval type over the science fiction, but I would welcome a Shepard-like protagonist in the Dragon Age's world. It made sense for us to not know anything in ME1, since we were just getting into everything, which was great. That helped us grow and figure out things just like Shepard. It's great for role playing, since you can play your new protagonist as someone who would hate the old companion/npc that your old protagonist probably loved, but I agree, the disconnect is really bad.
X100 everything you said. The friendship/Love are always the reward, but we never get to go pass that. The WardenxMorrigan relationship is probably the only complete real relationship because of the Witch Hunt dlc. I'm thirsty for a new story/character dlc and a personal dlc for the inquisitor, something to define him/her as a character/person. Hopefully, DA4 protagonist can be the one to take the role of a "Shepard" protagonist.
Since it's way too late for the south thing, we could still have a set protagonist for Northern Thedas.
I agree, it's hard to connect to your avatar properly. I have a feeling they wanted to have Hawke be the Shepard-like protagonist through at least 2 games, but scrapped the idea after DA2 didn't do as well as they'd hoped. There are a lot of similarities and apparently a lot of the Exalted March expansion ended up being in DA:I. I would have loved that.
I hope that they use the Inquisitor again to be honest. Maybe it's unlikely, but I feel like the fact that you have to have a fully operational Inquisition and not retire after DA:I would be wasted otherwise, as well as the idea the Inquisitor being pushed to the sidelines would be very strange and unrealistic. And I don't want a third super-influential person to "mysteriously go missing". I actually prefer the Warden and Hawke to Quizzy, but I'd rather continue her arc and development (as well as use the Inquisition) than start again... again.
I'd also be for a single protagonist for the north if we can't have the Inquisitor. I've just had enough swapping and want something to build on, whoever it is.
I mentioned the character-whiplash in the twitter conversation that started this discussion, but so far, Mike hasn't replied.
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