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[Lady Sif]

@User: What was with that strong sense of Imperialism in the Descent DLC? @PatrickWeekes
Am I missing something?

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @User Like... Orlesian Imperialism? Tevinter? Or do you mean intruding into someone else's land?

@user: @PatrickWeekes @User Yeah. We killed a lot of folks. :\

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @user @User Fair point! Intention was them killing someone w/o even trying to talk made them bad enough to be okay fighting.

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @user @User And also, earthquakes threatening countless lives.

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @user @User But if it came off as imperialist, well, that's something we will try to do better on in the future.

@User: @PatrickWeekes @user that last tweet was sarcastic. But it did indeed feel extremely hostile and like I was a colony or something.

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @User @user Fair! We were hoping the intro cutscene would sell them as not just dangerous but alien and hostile.

@User: @PatrickWeekes @user anyway thanks for listening to my semi rant. i appreciate it.

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @User @user Hey, like I said, it's a totally valid viewpoint we hadn't considered, and we will try harder next time.

[Elhanan]

Spoiler

Don't know if I understood the included lore, but the new Dwarves also silence their tongues, so discussion is pretty much off the table. This could hamper diplomacy.

It should be required for folks to remove shoulder chips before using social media....

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

@User: What was with that strong sense of Imperialism in the Descent DLC? @PatrickWeekes
Am I missing something?

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @User Like... Orlesian Imperialism? Tevinter? Or do you mean intruding into someone else's land?

@user: @PatrickWeekes @User Yeah. We killed a lot of folks. :\

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @user @User Fair point! Intention was them killing someone w/o even trying to talk made them bad enough to be okay fighting.

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @user @User And also, earthquakes threatening countless lives.

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @user @User But if it came off as imperialist, well, that's something we will try to do better on in the future.

@User: @PatrickWeekes @user that last tweet was sarcastic. But it did indeed feel extremely hostile and like I was a colony or something.

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @User @user Fair! We were hoping the intro cutscene would sell them as not just dangerous but alien and hostile.

@User: @PatrickWeekes @user anyway thanks for listening to my semi rant. i appreciate it.

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @User @user Hey, like I said, it's a totally valid viewpoint we hadn't considered, and we will try harder next time.

 

*snickers* Seriously? 

 

Spoiler

The enemies are hostile on sight. They try to kill us. They succeed in killing Renn.

 

What's next? #Sha-BrytolLivesMatter?

[jawsisinmywc]

@User: @Mike_Laidlaw Solas's voice in The Descent doesn't sound right, did someone else voice certain lines in the DLC for him? Driving me insane!

Mike Laidlaw@Mike_Laidlaw: @User Nope.

I thought his voice sounded a bit off. Maybe he was sick on the one day they needed to record the few lines.

[Iakus]

 
Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes: @User @user Fair! We were hoping the intro cutscene would sell them as not just dangerous but alien and hostile.

Spoiler

They were dangerous, alien, and hostile.  They struck without warning, refused attempts to parlay, and seemed more golem than dwarf.

[Silith]

I kind of get where the user was coming from but eh, I don't think "imperialist" is be the correct term to describe

Spoiler

a 6 men/women/elf/dwarf/qunari party fighting against a couple dwarves... Maybe user doesn't really know what imperialist means?

Also, they attacked first! I really liked Renn a lot, couldn't believe they actually killed him off. I appreciated the feelsuh tho', finally some emotions!

BTW I thought the Sha-Brytol thing as a whole was kind of tragic, there is an epilogue codex entry by Valta where she describes their behaviour a bit. Sad.

[Iakus]

I kind of get where the user was coming from but eh, I don't think "imperialist" is be the correct term to describe

Spoiler

a 6 men/women/elf/dwarf/qunari party fighting against a couple dwarves... Maybe user doesn't really know what imperialist means?

Also, they attacked first! I really liked Renn a lot, couldn't believe they actually killed him off. I appreciated the feelsuh tho', finally some emotions!

BTW I thought the Sha-Brytol thing as a whole was kind of tragic, there is an epilogue codex entry by Valta where she describes their behaviour a bit. Sad.

 

Spoiler

 Snake!?

 

SNAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!

 

Mission Failed

 

 

[Paxwell]

I don't know if "imperialist" is the correct term, but I definitely felt a bit weird about it. 

Spoiler

We were intruding onto their domain, and as far as they knew, the only things that probably came at them like that were Darkspawn.  Honestly, I kept expecting for them to finally give up and try talking to me, like the werewolves in Origins.   That's what RPGs are for, right?  Talking to the monsters?  I seem to recall that one of the codexes from the end put this to rest for me a little, describing their corruption and society as something pretty unpleasant, but still...  we found a third living society of dwarves, and all we can do is murder them.

[Avejajed]

Well you cant talk it out if you're dead.

[Dio Demon]

Uhh dudes! SPOILERS! Some of us are waiting to get the DLC.

[Reznore57]

I don't know if "imperialist" is the correct term, but I definitely felt a bit weird about it.  We were intruding onto their domain, and as far as they knew, the only things that probably came at them like that were Darkspawn.  Honestly, I kept expecting for them to finally give up and try talking to me, like the werewolves in Origins.   That's what RPGs are for, right?  Talking to the monsters?  I seem to recall that one of the codexes from the end put this to rest for me a little, describing their corruption and society as something pretty unpleasant, but still...  we found a third living society of dwarves, and all we can do is murder them.

 

Spoiler

  Errr...it's not like they tried to communicate.

I mean you step on their territory and they shoot you on sight .

Anyway I very much doubt they can talk , what with the melted in lyrium armor  thing.

 

Anyway people are getting really sensitive about pretty much everything .

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

Spoiler

Errr...it's not like they tried to communicate.
I mean you step on their territory and they shoot you on sight .
Anyway I very much doubt they can talk , what with the melted in lyrium armor thing.

Anyway people are getting really sensitive about pretty much everything .

This.

I've seen people complain about the violence in Bioware games and I just don't understand. They give you more options than most games to avoid killing others, at least but I've seen those who desire wanting Even less so I'm not surprised people are boohooing about the dlc seriously.

[TheBlackAdder13]

I don't know if "imperialist" is the correct term, but I definitely felt a bit weird about it.  We were intruding onto their domain, and as far as they knew, the only things that probably came at them like that were Darkspawn.  Honestly, I kept expecting for them to finally give up and try talking to me, like the werewolves in Origins.   That's what RPGs are for, right?  Talking to the monsters?  I seem to recall that one of the codexes from the end put this to rest for me a little, describing their corruption and society as something pretty unpleasant, but still...  we found a third living society of dwarves, and all we can do is murder them.

 

Spoiler

I felt weird in the sense that I felt like a virus invading a body and getting attacked by white blood cells. It was actually pretty cool -- I thought that's what they were going for. I also don't think I would describe their society as "corrupt" based on what we know, just incredibly alien.

[r1ck182]

I don't know if "imperialist" is the correct term, but I definitely felt a bit weird about it. 

Spoiler

We were intruding onto their domain, and as far as they knew, the only things that probably came at them like that were Darkspawn.  Honestly, I kept expecting for them to finally give up and try talking to me, like the werewolves in Origins.   That's what RPGs are for, right?  Talking to the monsters?  I seem to recall that one of the codexes from the end put this to rest for me a little, describing their corruption and society as something pretty unpleasant, but still...  we found a third living society of dwarves, and all we can do is murder them.

 

Spoiler

Well, there was darkspawn talking too, look at "The Elder One". What we did to him? 

RPG is about good stories, talking to monsters have nothing to do with it, lol. And yeah, that's how I see them. Let's not forget Thedas is a dark fantasy setting, not the cute paradise full of love.

 

That "living society" was in the way of solving a huge problem and didn't want to talk... When it's some hundreds, maybe thousands of them versus millions of people in the surface, it's not hard to choose.

[BioFan (Official)]

Just make the next DLC the last one. Then they can start working on the next game if they haven't already...

 

 

The DLC team and main game team are not all the same team. I don't think the DLC limits them very much in terms of people or resources... Probably more money than anything. The DLC team is smaller. While it has several members from the main game team on it, it's not nearly as large.

 

 

Going by what I know of general game development, they would've started working on DA4 (and by "work on" I mean writing or conceptual idea planning) ages ago. Andromeda was well underway before the Citadel DLC was finished, and they started the DLC before ME3 was even out right?

[Hrungr]

BioWare ‏@bioware

"What are you looking at?" Morrigan by @megsauce. #DragonAge

 

[ElitePinecone]

FFS.

 

DO NOT POST SPOILERS HERE.

[Avejajed]

FFS.

 

DO NOT POST SPOILERS HERE.

 

EP, I wonder if there's any way we would write a nice letter to Conal (if he's indeed the "community manager" now), imploring him to make some much needed changes to these boards? The moderating is like spotty internet service, nobody ever responds to any requests, concerns, or issues, and it's just plain non-welcoming.  There has to be a solution besides leave it alone and watch it burn itself down, right? I mean, it's unlikely anyone would even bother coming to add a spoiler, and unless the poster does him or herself, it's just there no matter what.

[Nimlowyn]

FFS, non spoiler forums, HELLO. Glad I didn't keep reading, that was a close one.

[ElitePinecone]

EP, I wonder if there's any way we would write a nice letter to Conal (if he's indeed the "community manager" now), imploring him to make some much needed changes to these boards? The moderating is like spotty internet service, nobody ever responds to any requests, concerns, or issues, and it's just plain non-welcoming.  There has to be a solution besides leave it alone and watch it burn itself down, right? I mean, it's unlikely anyone would even bother coming to add a spoiler, and unless the poster does him or herself, it's just there no matter what.

 

I PM'd Conal but he hasn't been on the forum in three days. (Fair enough, since it's the weekend, but none of the other mods seem to be active either.)

[TheBlackAdder13]

I PM'd Conal but he hasn't been on the forum in three days. (Fair enough, since it's the weekend, but none of the other mods seem to be active either.)

 

What if we put it in spoiler tags?

[ElitePinecone]

Sorry for snapping but people were putting story details and the new enemy types outside spoiler tags, and even the stuff INSIDE the tags absolutely didn't need to be discussed here.

 

I know it's hard when the content of dev tweets is spoilery, but really: this should be a place that's free of The Descent spoilers, at least for a while. There's a whole other forum to talk about it.

[Dancing_Dolphin]

Mike Laidlaw@Mike_Laidlaw: @user No. It’s a responsibility to keep that stuff straight and deliver it well. Smug creators are too in love with their own stuff.

This is so very true. Mike is a wise man.

[Avejajed]

I PM'd Conal but he hasn't been on the forum in three days. (Fair enough, since it's the weekend, but none of the other mods seem to be active either.)

 

 

Maybe I could get an email address for him and interested parties could draft up a formal note to him all official like? Because I think there ARE people who want this forum to be a safe place to come and interact with other fans and developers in a positive environment. I'm all for rules but they can't be wishy-washy about enforcing them. It needs a complete overhaul and all the current moderators need fired.

 

If we had a major overhaul of our system to make it more user-friendly with more swift enforcement of rules that matter (this swearing nonsense is nonsense), then maybe even the developers would start to come back. Isn't that what most of us would like? If they felt safe and comfortable returning to have meaningful interactions with the fans again? This place is a cesspool sometimes and it wouldn't take much to whip it back into shape so that we could go back to the way we used to be.