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[LolaLei]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Mark Darrah is having a strange Twitter conversation where someone was convinced Bianca was a gun. o__O

LOL, I just saw that. Bianca doesn't look anything like a gun! 

[Allan Schumacher]

BasilKarlo wrote...

That explanation doesn't really hold water to me. The trailer says "ACTUAL GAME FOOTAGE" which obviously means actual game footage. If they were worried about people misconstruing the trailer as being straight out of the game that phrase seems even more damning than "Actual In-Game Graphics." I think they used the FB3 engine like an animation suite and made the assets and animations a whole lot prettier than they actually are.

Well, there's always chance that you may be wrong for the first time.

Here's what you're effectively saying:  "If you change anything from this video BioWare, you're lying.  Under no circumstances in the next 12+ months are you allowed to change any of what we saw here, otherwise this will no longer be actual game footage!"

You also have the feeling that this game is balls out gorgeous based on the trailer, and that it's impossible for the game to actually have anything close to this level of fidelity.  This is flattering, but given that I'd say that Battlefield 4 looks more visually impressive (and it was a live multiplayer demo), I'm not sure why there's so much resistance that our game can't actually have a level of detail similar to the trailer.

There are custom animations that exist in the trailer, but custom animations are also created for in game cinematics and were used in DAO and DA2.

I find your rejection and specificity of "in game footage" to be arbitrary.  If you don't think the trailer can be our visual target, it's probably best I leave it at this as I don't think I can convince you.

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 12 juin 2013 - 05:56 .

[ElitePinecone]

BasilKarlo wrote...
It makes no sense that a game so far from release would already have such polished and gorgeous graphics but not be in a state to be playable or even have displayable gameplay of any kind. They can't even talk about gameplay at this point but the game is already as gorgeous as any next-gen title we've seen*? No, that makes absolutely no sense.

It's already been in development for nearly two years, keep in mind.

We had reports of a vertical slice of environmental art being in development in EA Shanghai in the middle of last year.

And like Allan said, they've had a fair amount of time to prepare the trailer. Bioware has presumably known for a while that they're under no rush to get it out by the end of the year.

A few levels looking amazing doesn't mean that the rest of the game looks like that, or is even in a presentable state. Polishing some content early for demos and E3 events is absolutely *routine* in the industry. 

[MissOuJ]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Mark Darrah is having a strange Twitter conversation where someone was convinced Bianca was a gun. o__O

Just saw it -- I love how the guy is like all righteous anger 'no guns in my fantasy games! '

And DA twitter was all helpful like 'you mean Bianca? She's not a gun'

and the guy is like ' lolno I meant the weapon' -- the poor guy had no idea, did he?

Ahh well, probably a (potential?) newcomer to the series, let's not scare him away!

JK, LET'S!

Modifié par MissOuJ, 12 juin 2013 - 06:00 .

[Angrywolves]

well that was very calm of you schumacher.rotfl.
To me the trailer was ok, not great. Not impressed with the characters' looks. Been beaten up for saying so in other threads. rotfl. Hope they're still going to be working to improve the visuals. No deception involved if they are. I don't understand why some fans believe this video was perfect in every way and Bioware better not make any changes or improvements.

[DiegoRaphael]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

You really are a piece of work.  Get off your sorry behind get the Da toolset and test out the cutscene creator.  The effects in the cutscene creator are the effects you get in game, the faces are the in game faces, the models are in game models. 

Let me ask you this, do you think that all the cutscense from the last two games were no tactual game footage?  they were in the game, thus they were actual game footage.

What does the DAO toolset have to do with anything? What do scenes from previous games have to do with anything? And what's more ridiculous, believing that a game 16 months away from release is already that gorgeous and polished or thinking that the debut trailer was prettied up to make a good impression?

ElitePinecone wrote...

I think that, possibly, getting anxious about trailer footage not matching up to the final product a year and a half before release
is pushing the boundaries of being reasonable. We have literally
nothing else with which to compare that, so wondering about the truth of
what was shown is a bit premature at this point. 

If live
gameplay looks nothing like that (whenever they show it), then I think
you'd have grounds for claiming it'd been manipulated. 

I'm not anxious at all. I just don't believe that the game is already looking that polished and gorgeous if they still need 16 months or more to finish it. It makes no sense.

Have you seen the leaked images of BF4 alpha?
There is entire maps still all white, with no textures at all, and they are less than 6 months from release.
But still they had a big and function map, to show at E3.

Development don't walk even on all fronts.
They don't start and finish all maps at the same time.
It is normal to have some parts, dungeons, characters ahead of others.

Modifié par DiegoRaphael, 12 juin 2013 - 06:08 .

[Steppenwolf]

Allan Schumacher wrote...
Well, there's always chance that you may be wrong for the first time.

Of course there's that chance. Just not this time.

Allan Schumacher wrote...
Here's what you're effectively saying:  "If you change anything from this video BioWare, you're lying.  Under no circumstances in the next 12+ months are you allowed to change any of what we saw here, otherwise this will no longer be actual game footage!"

Except that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm making no demands. I'm saying I don't believe you. I don't believe that that trailer was indicative of the graphics of the game in its current state.

Allan Schumacher wrote...
You also have the feeling that this game is balls out gorgeous based on the trailer, and that it's impossible for the game to actually have anything close to this level of fidelity.  This is flattering, but given that I'd say that Battlefield 4 looks more visually impressive (and it was a live multiplayer demo), I'm not sure why there's so much resistance that our game can't actually have a level of detail similar to the trailer.

People keep saying that but I wholeheartedly disagree. I saw low-fidelity assets and choppy animations in that gameplay demo, as well as a grey-ness that's usually indicative of low-res textures being hidden.

Allan Schumacher wrote...
I find your rejection and specificity of "in game footage" to be arbitrary.  If you don't think the trailer can be our visual target, it's probably best I leave it at this as I don't think I can convince you.

I guess you don't realize that you've just admitted that the trailer is not what the game looks like but what you want it to look like.
If the game ends up looking as good or better than the trailer I will be thrilled. As it stands I find it to be absolutely disingenuous to say that the game is already amazingly polished and animated but the core gameplay mechanics are too undeveloped to even talk about.

[moonman12]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...
Well, there's always chance that you may be wrong for the first time.

Allan Schumacher wrote...
Here's what you're effectively saying:  "If you change anything from this video BioWare, you're lying.  Under no circumstances in the next 12+ months are you allowed to change any of what we saw here, otherwise this will no longer be actual game footage!"

Except that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm making no demands. I'm saying I don't believe you. I don't believe that that trailer was indicative of the graphics of the game in its current state.

Allan Schumacher wrote...
You also have the feeling that this game is balls out gorgeous based on the trailer, and that it's impossible for the game to actually have anything close to this level of fidelity.  This is flattering, but given that I'd say that Battlefield 4 looks more visually impressive (and it was a live multiplayer demo), I'm not sure why there's so much resistance that our game can't actually have a level of detail similar to the trailer.

People keep saying that but I wholeheartedly disagree. I saw low-fidelity assets and choppy animations in that gameplay demo, as well as a grey-ness that's usually indicative of low-res textures being hidden.
no game is visual perfection you know for a first teaser it was solid considring it was only put together for a quick purpose

Allan Schumacher wrote...
I find your rejection and specificity of "in game footage" to be arbitrary.  If you don't think the trailer can be our visual target, it's probably best I leave it at this as I don't think I can convince you.

I guess you don't realize that you've just admitted that the trailer is not what the game looks like but what you want it to look like.
If the game ends up looking as good or better than the trailer I will be thrilled. As it stands I find it to be absolutely disingenuous to say that the game is already amazingly polished and animated but the core gameplay mechanics are too undeveloped to even talk about.

if you believe you are right from the get go you can't be proven wrong so be a bit more to good possibilties. i found nothing wrong with that teaser it was only  quickly put together so it does not matter if it is not pefrect. Also i myself now animators can be had of the guys doing the actual game play at universty a game development project i did was like that the animators were often ahead in devolpment

Modifié par moonman12, 12 juin 2013 - 06:24 .

[ElitePinecone]

It must be exhausting to see conspiracies and deception everywhere, all the time.

[MissOuJ]

discosuperfly wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

Just saw it -- I love how the guy is like all righteous anger 'no guns in my fantasy games! '

And DA twitter was all helpful like 'you mean Bianca? She's not a gun'

and the guy is like ' lolno I meant the weapon' -- the poor guy had no idea, did he?

I like how how Mark was so nice about it. Very cool.

Yeah, he handled that one with real class.

I am actually not that surpised that some people have mistaken Bianca for a gun, since the live stream chat had a couple of commenters who immediately went 'lol there's a gun' when they saw the trailer, but people corrected them pretty quickly. And that mistake can be easy to make because of the way she's designed and how she looks when she's folded up -- Bianca doesn't look anything like your standard fantasy crossbow; she's is quite special.

Modifié par MissOuJ, 12 juin 2013 - 06:22 .

[moonman12]

ElitePinecone wrote...

It must be exhausting to see conspiracies and deception everywhere, all the time.

not really it probaly keeps him busy

[DAYtheELF]

MissOuJ wrote...

Yeah, he handled that one with real class.

I am actually not that surpised that some people have mistaken Bianca for a gun, since the live stream chat had a couple of commenters who immediately went 'lol there's a gun' when they saw the trailer, but people corrected them pretty quickly. And that mistake can be easy to make because of the way she's designed and how she looks when she's folded up -- Bianca doesn't look anything like your standard fantasy crossbow; she's is quite special.

Bianca as an LI in DA:I! 

[MilaBanilla]

DAYtheELF wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

Yeah, he handled that one with real class.

I am actually not that surpised that some people have mistaken Bianca for a gun, since the live stream chat had a couple of commenters who immediately went 'lol there's a gun' when they saw the trailer, but people corrected them pretty quickly. And that mistake can be easy to make because of the way she's designed and how she looks when she's folded up -- Bianca doesn't look anything like your standard fantasy crossbow; she's is quite special.

Bianca as an LI in DA:I! 

Varric would probably shoot us if we even got near Bianca 

[moonman12]

Mila-banilla wrote...

DAYtheELF wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

Yeah, he handled that one with real class.

I am actually not that surpised that some people have mistaken Bianca for a gun, since the live stream chat had a couple of commenters who immediately went 'lol there's a gun' when they saw the trailer, but people corrected them pretty quickly. And that mistake can be easy to make because of the way she's designed and how she looks when she's folded up -- Bianca doesn't look anything like your standard fantasy crossbow; she's is quite special.

Bianca as an LI in DA:I! 

Varric would probably shoot us if we even got near Bianca 

that explains the plot of this game it is all about Bianica 

Modifié par moonman12, 12 juin 2013 - 06:39 .

[InfinitePaths]

Bianca looked awesome

[DAYtheELF]

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Bianca looked awesome

Bianca always looks awesome. <3

Er, this has gotten us derailed.  Er...  Tweets!

 Cameron Lee :
Proud as hell to see Dragon Age: Inquisition's trailer playing on the massive screen at EA's booth #DAI #E3Cam pic.twitter.com/ffLy6wkoJP

[person]:
@Cameron__Lee Is it on loop? It should be.

Cameron Lee:
@[person] Yep looping in a mix with other EA stuff

[MissOuJ]

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Bianca looked awesome

No argument here!

DAYtheELF wrote...
Bianca as an LI in DA:I! 

Semi-confirmed rumour!

love-triangle with Varric to be expected!

Modifié par MissOuJ, 12 juin 2013 - 07:17 .

[mdigs150]

Surprising to read so many people think the Dragon Age: Inquisition trailer was CGI... #DAI

Cameron Lee

just to get that old chestnut underway again...

[Angrywolves]

Not everyone is technology savvy.

[Reznore57]

Poor Cameron Lee , the booth sounds so boring.
Well ,maybe he's having fun and there' tons of friendly people around passing by ...

[DAYtheELF]

Reznore57 wrote...

Poor Cameron Lee , the booth sounds so boring.
Well ,maybe he's having fun and there' tons of friendly people around passing by ...

Is he running a booth? I was under the impression he was just partaking of E3.

Anyways, running a booth for these sorts of things can be a lot of fun and excitement!  I've always enjoyed it, at least (granted, I have never been at soemthing so big and awesome).

[Beerfish]

Reznore57 wrote...

Poor Cameron Lee , the booth sounds so boring.
Well ,maybe he's having fun and there' tons of friendly people around passing by ...

He's one of the 'booth babes' apparently.

[Reznore57]

Beerfish wrote...


He's one of the 'booth babes' apparently.

I sort of picture him in a cheap dragon costume now.
A dragon with a chainmail bikini on ...