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[Enad]

I'm worried about the statement Aaron Flynn made about DAI being the 'ultimate conclusion'.

I hope DA isn't ending after this game. I know this was never meant to be a trilogy per say but what could that mean? Will they reboot the series in a sense with a new theme or something?
What is concluding?

[Steppenwolf]

Enad wrote...

I'm worried about the statement Aaron Flynn made about DAI being the 'ultimate conclusion'.

I hope DA isn't ending after this game. I know this was never meant to be a trilogy per say but what could that mean? Will they reboot the series in a sense with a new theme or something?
What is concluding?

Flemeth has been operating behind the scenes for many years, orchestrating events and manipulating important people at opportune times to make possible some unknown outcome. My guess is that Inquisition is the fruition of what may be a centuries-long plan to remake Thedas into her vision of what it should be.

[azarhal]

"As you do, the choices you make will impact the world and bring everything to an ultimate conclusion."

That line just mean that the game will have an ending, not that it is the last game.

[Melca36]

Enad wrote...

I'm worried about the statement Aaron Flynn made about DAI being the 'ultimate conclusion'.

I hope DA isn't ending after this game. I know this was never meant to be a trilogy per say but what could that mean? Will they reboot the series in a sense with a new theme or something?
What is concluding?

They already stated that the Dragon Age Series is NOT a trilogy

[badboy64]

ElitePinecone wrote...

The game is a year and a half away, and a demo certainly more than a year away, I doubt Bioware even know what the PC system requirements are going to be yet.

I doubt that the will be delayed that long. That would put it for December 2014 release instead or close to Jan. 2015. I am guessing end of September mid-October release.

[killswitch423]

Didn't DA2's first big rush of info come from Game Informer? I'm willing to bet we'll see something there by the end of the year...

[BioFan (Official)]

Enad wrote...

I'm worried about the statement Aaron Flynn made about DAI being the 'ultimate conclusion'.

I hope DA isn't ending after this game. I know this was never meant to be a trilogy per say but what could that mean? Will they reboot the series in a sense with a new theme or something?
What is concluding?

Maybe a reboot for during next age?

10:?? _____

[draken-heart]

I found out about the release date, I was like .

Then I found out I can get it for PS3 then I was like .

maybe I can have that Triumverate of hero ladies after all.

Origins: Female Mage romancing Leliana.

DA2: Female rogue Rival Romancing Merrill

Inquisition: Female 2h warrior Romancing F/F option.

Modifié par draken-heart, 17 juin 2013 - 03:56 .

[FenrirBlackDragon]

I also have an triumvirate of female heroes. All mages with Jewish names...kind of a weird trend but it works. LIs were Alistair and Fenris, but I am not sure about DA3. I want to be surprised but if I like the LIs they give us I'm going to romance someone again. If not my third character might just be by themselves.

[ElitePinecone]

Reznore57 wrote...

Patrick Weekes changed his twitter pic , it's now the Unknown Qunari with a Name !
Wonder if it means he's involved in writing this character ?

Oh, that would be great.

(usual disclaimer, now with added Word of Gaider, that the survey info could be inaccurate)

The Iron Bull is a long way from home, and prefers it that way. A slap in the face of typically humorless Qunari, he loves drinking, killing, and looting-not necessarily in that order. The head of a vicious mercenary company, he’s known for excellent pay and brutal punishment. It’s been a ten year party, but the Bull may find that old loyalties die hard.

[Steppenwolf]

ElitePinecone wrote...

 the survey info could be inaccurate

Come on. We don't have to toe their line.

[ElitePinecone]

I'll admit, I'm strongly leaning towards the majority of it being reasonably accurate (we know they've been doing voice recording for companions since before the survey was released), but dismissing the prospect that things could and will change over the two years between the survey's production and the actual release of the game is unrealistic. I also find the narrative that devs are just constantly lying jerks who want to actively deceive people to be unhelpfully hostile at best - and at worst, a little paranoid.

Not everything is a conspiracy, and sometimes a dev telling you "things change during game development" is just that.

[BioFan (Official)]

They were hinting about cullen before the trailer, so maybe they switched out which one they decided to go with. I bet we'll see him in the next reveal in July.

[Fredward]

I don't think the survey info is gonna be all that accurate personally. For the simple reason that idea's change. It's called the development process for a reason. The overarching ideas will probably still be there though. Like the Tear.

[Steppenwolf]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

I don't think the survey info is gonna be all that accurate personally. For the simple reason that idea's change. It's called the development process for a reason. The overarching ideas will probably still be there though. Like the Tear.

Everything in the trailer was right in line with the survey. Nothing in it didn't fit. We even got a Kossith with bull-like horns, for crap's sake.
It makes perfect sense that they want us to forget about the survey. They don't want us to know as much as we know. But we do know it. Saying, "yeah, sure, the survey is right about everything so far, but that's just so far." seems a little silly. What was in that trailer was up to them. They made it. If the survey was only a little right wouldn't they have shown that? If the story isn't exactly what it appears the survey says it is how did the trailer get it so wrong? Maybe a character or two got cut, but clearly the survey was not a red herring.

[thats1evildude]

Funny, I don' t remember any elven archer named Sera or a Tevinter mage called Dorian in the trailer.

[The Elder King]

thats1evildude wrote...

Funny, I don' t remember any elven archer named Sera or a Tevinter mage called Dorian in the trailer.

BasilKarlo said that everything present in the trailer was present in the leak, not that everything present in the leak was present in the trailer.
Though even then, I don't think Varric and Morrigan were present or hinted in the survey.

[Fredward]

BasilKarlo wrote...
Everything in the trailer was right in line with the survey. Nothing in it didn't fit. We even got a Kossith with bull-like horns, for crap's sake.
It makes perfect sense that they want us to forget about the survey. They don't want us to know as much as we know. But we do know it. Saying, "yeah, sure, the survey is right about everything so far, but that's just so far." seems a little silly. What was in that trailer was up to them. They made it. If the survey was only a little right wouldn't they have shown that? If the story isn't exactly what it appears the survey says it is how did the trailer get it so wrong? Maybe a character or two got cut, but clearly the survey was not a red herring.

Eh. I'm not saying the survey was a red herring, cuz it clearly wasn't. I'm saying that people who expect everything to line up exactly (same companions, looks, castles, whatever actually was in the survey cuz I don't even remember) are clutching at straws. Ideas change. Not massive stuff like the Tear because that's the kind of thing a story is built around but details, sure. Which is why people get pissy when it turns out the game isn't actually like that.

[ElitePinecone]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...
Which is why people get pissy when it turns out the game isn't actually like that. 

Sure, a mismatch between expectations (even if they're unrealistic) and the reality of the eventual game can be an issue. That's why there was the idea of showing rather than telling, apparently. 

It was rather bemusing at the time of the survey 'leak' that by far the most amount of information we had about the game up to that point was discovered through a marketing tool that was ostensibly 'secure', but in practice would leak everywhere as soon as a rabid DA fan was selected to participate. Half a year or more later and the survey *still* tells more about the game - even in a vague form, and even if specifics can change - than the trailer or all the developer hints of the past year, yet it was never intended to be for public consumption beyond the anonymous market-research users who qualified to participate.

So while I don't think anyone is justified in freaking out if parts of the survey don't end up being accurate (because it was never actually intended to be released), I also can't fathom why whoever was in charge of the marketing was throwing around game assets and the plot summary on third-party marketing websites, months if not a year before they would actually reveal that information. Given that it predictably leaked, I can't really fault people for clutching at that as the only really interesting thing we'd heard about Inquisition for years.

It was (and is) a little frustrating that quasi-solid details existed and were being used for marketing/consumer testing/research purposes when the devs were saying nothing could be revealed yet to the public.

[azarhal]

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Not sure if this has been posted, but it's a gem:

David Gaider ‏@davidgaider
Okay, speaking as someone on the DA development team, this was an absolute joy to watch:

I had the same reaction as her when I heard and saw Morrigan. 

Was I the only one who thought it was Flemeth when Morrigian started narrating? Yeah?... Mmkay.

I still believe that the first few words, the "I've seen", are using Kate's voice. The "of this war" and afterward is clearly Claudia's.

[azarhal]

ElitePinecone wrote...

It was (and is) a little frustrating that quasi-solid details existed and were being used for marketing/consumer testing/research purposes when the devs were saying nothing could be revealed yet to the public.

Surveys are a way to see if some ideas are appealing to a target group and see their interests. The reason why it's not made public is because these thing are in flux. All the proposed companions could be NPCs now. Cassandra is wearing a different look (based on another concept art). Feature could have been dropped or changed in scope. The story could have been changed (the survey doesn't mention dargons darkening the sky for example).

The solid stuff we have, we already knew from DA2 and Asunder (Orlesian civil war, Mage/Templar war and the Chantry being on its knees). Hell, even the Inqusition was hinted at in DA2 official guide and by Gaider in interviews.

[ElitePinecone]

azarhal wrote...

Surveys are a way to see if some ideas are appealing to a target group and see their interests. The reason why it's not made public is because these thing are in flux. All the proposed companions could be NPCs now. Cassandra is wearing a different look (based on another concept art). Feature could have been dropped or changed in scope. The story could have been changed (the survey doesn't mention dargons darkening the sky for example).

The solid stuff we have, we already knew from DA2 and Asunder (Orlesian civil war, Mage/Templar war and the Chantry being on its knees). Hell, even the Inqusition was hinted at in DA2 official guide and by Gaider in interviews.

This is all true, but the survey was related to marketing, not game concepts. The parts that had respondents highlighting sections of plot summaries that they liked or disliked wouldn't (IMO) have led to the plot being changed, but would've influenced the way the game was pitched in marketing and PR campaigns. The character art that people thought 'looked cool' would've featured heavily in trailers, and the features they liked would be the ones most heavily emphasised at press events.

I'm skeptical that things like companions were in such flux a year into development, especially when we know they were doing auditions and recording voice actors over a year ago in the middle of 2012. I'm also skeptical that marketing teams would even bother researching consumer attitudes to companions, game features or a story that could all change significantly - what's the point in finding out what people think of a character concept for marketing purposes if it - or something very like it - is not going to be used? 

Point being: *some* amount of concrete information existed at least in August/September last year, and that information is still more than has been publicly revealed even now. I mean, we knew a potential name for the game was "Dragon Age: Inquisition" about a month before they even officially announced it. 

[Irish Chick]

Gah apologies unecessary post.

Modifié par Irish Chick, 17 juin 2013 - 01:42 .