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Nomadiac wrote...

It wouldn't require it, you're right. However, city elves and dwarves have American accents vs the English accents for most humans, and (at least in DA2) Dalish are meant to have Irish and Welsh accents, so it would probably seem a bit odd to have one uniform voice across every different culture.

I don't think there's any actual difference between different races in DA that makes them have different voice qualities, however.


Not all elves live in forests or alienages. Fenris has a British accent.
Not all dwarves are born in dwarven cities. Any dwarf born somewhere else could have any other accent.

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Chris Priestly

Just walking around the Dragon Age floor and saw a wall full of new art. This is a good looking game! Shame I can't share any of it yet. :P

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BasilKarlo wrote...

Nomadiac wrote...

It wouldn't require it, you're right. However, city elves and dwarves have American accents vs the English accents for most humans, and (at least in DA2) Dalish are meant to have Irish and Welsh accents, so it would probably seem a bit odd to have one uniform voice across every different culture.

I don't think there's any actual difference between different races in DA that makes them have different voice qualities, however.


Not all elves live in forests or alienages. Fenris has a British accent.
Not all dwarves are born in dwarven cities. Any dwarf born somewhere else could have any other accent.


I'm not saying that they couldn't have one voice across all three races, or that they couldn't make it work well if they chose to do it. It's probable that if they include multiple races in future games, they'll go with a single voice for all the races. I mean that it limits the number of backgrounds available, probably excluding Alienage and Dalish elves and dwarves from Orzammar - those were what I had in mind when I was talking about including other races, as they're what we had in DA:O and the most likely backgrounds for other races.

Half-elves often appear fully human (the pickpocket in Denerim is a half-elf) and are more likely than elves to grow up in human society and be treated like humans, so I imagine it'd involve less work on the part of the developers to include a half-elf background. 

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

IKR? This is just weird. Has Bioware ever dropped a VA? I kinda pictured their VA contracts as stipulating "YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST DO THIS UNTIL YOU DIE."

Not dropped in this case, but the most notable example of a voice actor changing in Dragon Age is Anders.  Anders in Awakening was voiced by Greg Ellis, who also voices Cullen.  I assume that's why Anders' voice was then done by Adam Howden for DA2.  Admittedly, I'd be surprised if Alistair were recast.  I actually said in another thread not long ago that I felt like he (as well as, I think, Morrigan, Leliana, and Flemeth among others) was probably "safe" from being recast, particularly as he's appeared in every installment.  But you never know, I suppose.

Still, I wouldn't read all that much into the tweets at this point.  The game is still a ways away, and voice actors frequently stay pretty tight-lipped about this kind of thing.

Modifié par Jonathan Seagull, 21 juin 2013 - 07:04 .


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Alistair might not appear?

GREAT!!!

Now hopefully we'll still get a Loghain cameo. After all, he did leave for Montsimmard in Awakening.


And we might finally get over that horrendous "Swooping is bad" line and inane fanservice!

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They can fit him in the game and not make a joke of it, I'm sure. Especially with the how dark this game seems to be compared to the first to, and with the whole ferelden-orlais conflict re-brewing (if you put him as king). :|

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Alistair might not appear?

GREAT!!!

Now hopefully we'll still get a Loghain cameo. After all, he did leave for Montsimmard in Awakening.


And we might finally get over that horrendous "Swooping is bad" line and inane fanservice!


"PEOPLE OF FERELDEN, TODAY WE MARCH ONTO ORLAIS. IT WILL BE A BRUTAL BATTLE, BUT REMEMBER THESE WORDS: SWOOPING. IS. BAAAAD!!!!"

*charges alone.*

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rosalindlutece wrote...

They can fit him in the game and not make a joke of it, I'm sure. Especially with the how dark this game seems to be compared to the first to, and with the whole ferelden-orlais conflict re-brewing (if you put him as king). :|


The Ferelden-Orlais conflict re-brewing was removed from the cooking fires when Orlais internal politics blow up in the face of Empress Celene (see Masked Empire sypnosis). Orlais, 9:40, has 3 major conflicts starting:
  • a civil war between the Empress and a pretender fo the throne,
  • an elven uprising that include both Dalish and City elves,
  • the Mages vs Templars war going all out.
You can add the dragons returning to burn everything to the ground and a demon invasion from DAI to that too...

I'm starting to think that the point of DAI is to destroy Orlais...

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azarhal wrote...

rosalindlutece wrote...

They can fit him in the game and not make a joke of it, I'm sure. Especially with the how dark this game seems to be compared to the first to, and with the whole ferelden-orlais conflict re-brewing (if you put him as king). :|


The Ferelden-Orlais conflict re-brewing was removed from the cooking fires when Orlais internal politics blow up in the face of Empress Celene (see Masked Empire sypnosis). Orlais, 9:40, has 3 major conflicts starting:
  • a civil war between the Empress and a pretender fo the throne,
  • an elven uprising that include both Dalish and City elves,
  • the Mages vs Templars war going all out.
You can add the dragons returning to burn everything to the ground and a demon invasion from DAI to that too...

I'm starting to think that the point of DAI is to destroy Orlais...


Well Orlais is a bit like France.  I don't blame them for wanting to destroy it.

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Interesting article from IGN: http://uk.ign.com/ar...ed-dragon-age-3

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Interesting article from IGN: http://uk.ign.com/ar...ed-dragon-age-3



"Inquisition is an all-new chapter inside of the Dragon Age universe,
as opposed to people expecting a follow-on to Dragon Age 1 and 2 in a
literal, linear sense."


Pretty key quote here if you ask me.  Let the wailing begin!

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simfamSP wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Alistair might not appear?

GREAT!!!

Now hopefully we'll still get a Loghain cameo. After all, he did leave for Montsimmard in Awakening.


And we might finally get over that horrendous "Swooping is bad" line and inane fanservice!


"PEOPLE OF FERELDEN, TODAY WE MARCH ONTO ORLAIS. IT WILL BE A BRUTAL BATTLE, BUT REMEMBER THESE WORDS: SWOOPING. IS. BAAAAD!!!!"

*charges alone.*


So much win! :lol:

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Interesting article from IGN: http://uk.ign.com/ar...ed-dragon-age-3


I forget who said it (Maybe Allan?), but originally Dragon Age 2 was supposed to be Dragon Age: Exodus.  I think they are just going back to their original naming concepts.  And, yeh, I dig that they are also trying to squash the "DA is a trilogy!" misconception...

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azarhal wrote...

rosalindlutece wrote...

They can fit him in the game and not make a joke of it, I'm sure. Especially with the how dark this game seems to be compared to the first to, and with the whole ferelden-orlais conflict re-brewing (if you put him as king). :|


The Ferelden-Orlais conflict re-brewing was removed from the cooking fires when Orlais internal politics blow up in the face of Empress Celene (see Masked Empire sypnosis). Orlais, 9:40, has 3 major conflicts starting:
  • a civil war between the Empress and a pretender fo the throne,
  • an elven uprising that include both Dalish and City elves,
  • the Mages vs Templars war going all out.
You can add the dragons returning to burn everything to the ground and a demon invasion from DAI to that too...

I'm starting to think that the point of DAI is to destroy Orlais...


Eh, I dunno. Aside from the M/T war that sort of stuff wouldnt sound like it would stop someone like Gaspard from trying to convince people to retake what used to "belong" to Orlais. Unless of course, the fade breach happens immediately at the start of DA:I

I guess we'll find out when the novel actually releases, though.
 :whistle:

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Beerfish wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Interesting article from IGN: http://uk.ign.com/ar...ed-dragon-age-3



"Inquisition is an all-new chapter inside of the Dragon Age universe,
as opposed to people expecting a follow-on to Dragon Age 1 and 2 in a
literal, linear sense."


Pretty key quote here if you ask me.  Let the wailing begin!


Why? We always knew it would be a new chapter with a new protagonist. DA2 had very little to do with Origins' story, or the Warden, in the end, so why would the next game have much to do with the events of the previous two games?

Except in the sense that the state of the world is slowly changing with each game, they've always said the DA games are individual stories with the same setting.

(Whether that's ultimately a good thing or not is a matter of opinion, I suppose.)

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rosalindlutece wrote...

Eh, I dunno. Aside from the M/T war that sort of stuff wouldnt sound like it would stop someone like Gaspard from trying to convince people to retake what used to "belong" to Orlais. Unless of course, the fade breach happens immediately at the start of DA:I

I guess we'll find out when the novel actually releases, though.
 :whistle:


An Orlesian Revanchist faction? 

That would actually be kinda cool, in the real-world parallels it would represent. 

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Why? We always knew it would be a new chapter with a new protagonist. 


Yeah, not really wail worthy around these parts.

Update: I stand corrected. There is already a thread whining about this. Lol

Modifié par discosuperfly, 21 juin 2013 - 04:58 .


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rosalindlutece wrote...

Eh, I dunno. Aside from the M/T war that sort of stuff wouldnt sound like it would stop someone like Gaspard from trying to convince people to retake what used to "belong" to Orlais. Unless of course, the fade breach happens immediately at the start of DA:I

I guess we'll find out when the novel actually releases, though. :whistle:


Convinging people and having them be ready when the time is right, sure, I could believe that. But I don't think they'll go through with it until they have stability in their country, first. They'd be fighting on multiple fronts and, even if they successfully breach Ferelden's borders, they wouldn't be able to stay there for long because they would have to commit some of their forces to fighting all the other conflicts; Ferelden wouldn't. If an invasion is to take place, Orleasian stability must first be achieved and them follow through with an attack on Ferelden. We might get that in the Masked Empire book, though, who knows, and we'd get the invasion happening in Inquisition. *shrug*

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Interesting article from IGN: http://uk.ign.com/ar...ed-dragon-age-3


“Just the raw capabilities of Frostbite 3 and gen 4 features,” Gibeau told us when we asked about the advantage of adding PS4 and Xbox One. “We’re going to have PS3 and Xbox 360 and PC versions of Dragon Age III, so there will be a very broad-based experience there, but the new platforms are giving us the opportunity to tell stories in much larger worlds with more features and more things.


He talks about PC like it's last gen. I don't like the sound of that. :unsure:

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I guess next-gen consoles would provide a consistent and known baseline for specs and the sort of world and experience they can create, whereas PCs do have to cater for a fairly broad range of hardware.

After reading that interview I'm kinda wondering how there could even be major differences between the various versions, beyond graphics. Introducing new features for Xbone and PS4 that are gimmicky or peripheral-focused (Kinect minigames!) doesn't seem like a groundbreaking use of the new consoles, but surely doing anything more to take advantage of the specs from a gameplay perspective would be expensive, never mind that it could make the game fundamentally different from the 360/PS3 versions.

Like, is the world size going to be different between last-gen and next-gen? Wouldn't that mean making whole new maps from scratch? I just don't really understand how the two generations can be effectively differentiated without one or the other being seen as held-back, or comparatively diminished.

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I'm honestly expecting the current-gen versions to be noticeably smaller and have less content in general. If the only difference was graphics then they wouldn't be taking advantage of the new consoles' capabilities. I think maps will be smaller, combat will be more hack&slashy and cutscenes will be more jenky.

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BasilKarlo wrote...

I'm honestly expecting the current-gen versions to be noticeably smaller and have less content in general. If the only difference was graphics then they wouldn't be taking advantage of the new consoles' capabilities. I think maps will be smaller, combat will be more hack&slashy and cutscenes will be more jenky.


Kind of makes me happy for the delay. If it was coming out this fall I'd have to get the PS3 version.  However, by fall 2014 I may have the funds to get a PS4...!

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DAYtheELF wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

I'm honestly expecting the current-gen versions to be noticeably smaller and have less content in general. If the only difference was graphics then they wouldn't be taking advantage of the new consoles' capabilities. I think maps will be smaller, combat will be more hack&slashy and cutscenes will be more jenky.


Kind of makes me happy for the delay. If it was coming out this fall I'd have to get the PS3 version.  However, by fall 2014 I may have the funds to get a PS4...!


Considering the language they're using regarding save importing I don't think there will be any advantage to sticking with the current gen except for saving money on the new console*. It seems like they're going to do something other than actual save importing.








*you're going to get a new console eventually if you're a console gamer so you may as well start saving now and buy a PS4 or XBone when or before Inquisition comes out

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I am really courious to know what will the main differences between generations will be. I mean, the gap in RAM is huge, and next-gen opens up a lot of possibilities they could exploit.
Here's hoping that it being a cross-gen title won't hold the game back.

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That article is a bit troubling. The way he talks about PC in the same sentence as having the Xbox 360 and PS3 version.

I don't want DAI to be held back on PC just because of these 9 year old consoles.
I want the PC version to be on par(or better!) than the PS4 and Xbox One versions.

I just have this bad feeling that if the current and next gen versions of DAI are really that different, us PC users will end up getting the crappy current gen version.