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Most of the flirt options were voiced, but none of the actual romance dialogue, if I remember correctly. Going on that, and the way the files look, maybe they were planning on allowing everyone to flirt with him, but only femLavellan to romance. Similar to the way you can flirt with Dorian and Sera despite gender, but the romance is restricted.

 

That would be my guess, anyway :)

 

The only romance lines for male Lavellan that aren't voiced are in cutscenes

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Flirt lines that clearly reference those cutscenes are voiced, however,
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This is pretty interesting to watch:


 



#85477
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It's mostly this that makes me confused about them saying that they wanted to avoid that 'trope' from the beginning. Almost all the romance lines are already done for male lavellan o.O.

 

At $10,000 a day for some voice actors, I expect they just make them record every single thing they can, just in case.


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#85478
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At $10,000 a day for some voice actors, I expect they just make them record every single thing they can, just in case.

 

Pretty much this. Not only is it costly to bring in an actor in case of a change of plans, it's also logistically difficult sometimes to fit extra sessions in.

 

And just because there are sound files included doesn't undermine or disprove what Patrick said. He indicates that it was an ongoing discussion and informed by feedback BW has received about LGBT content/tropes in their games. As they don't always have the luxury of adding VA, it's better to record some lines that they're more than likely not going to use than risk a situation where they decide to reverse their first decision and then need to somehow get those lines recorded. 


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Pretty much this. Not only is it costly to bring in an actor in case of a change of plans, it's also logistically difficult sometimes to fit extra sessions in.

 

And just because there are sound files included doesn't undermine or disprove what Patrick said. He indicates that it was an ongoing discussion and informed by feedback BW has received about LGBT content/tropes in their games. As they don't always have the luxury of adding VA, it's better to record some lines that they're more than likely not going to use than risk a situation where they decide to reverse their first decision and then need to somehow get those lines recorded. 

 

 

I read a really interesting article (in regards to the SAG-AFTRA strike, actually) by an anonymous game dev who says that voice work is always per day. So it's not per hour. Imagine you had to pay someone $10,000 to come in and say two lines you forgot to have them record them the day they came in. It's nuts. 

 

http://askagamedev.tumblr.com/

 

It's some ways down.

 

It's a good read, and gives both sides of the disagreement. I know this isn't exactly twitter news, EP, so I'm sorry, though it IS a very hot topic on twitter within our social circles right now so it's kind of topical.


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#85480
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@dragonage I have a question is all dlc be on the disc or will it just be voucher codes
 
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@user All of the bonus content will be accessible through download code.
 
 
I just found this. What's the point of this edition if we have to download the content again. Seriously not cool. It kills the mood.


Because of the download codes, it sounds like the DLC will not be available to those that buy the game used.

...good $$ for Bioware, bad $$ for Gamestop.
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#85481
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I don't know if this has been posted already if it has I'm sorry.

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DA:I - Divine Heretic

Another one of those moments that never saw the light of day, but made for some interesting and heated discussion internally. We thought it would be interesting if you gained enough power you could name yourself Divine. It would be twice as hard to do if you played as a male, and for the hardcore player it would twice as hard again to do it as a male Qunari. An effectively game and lore breaking act of heresy. Not even a little bit surprised we backed away from this one. 

http://mattrhodesart...er-one-of-those


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#85482
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Personally, I'm glad that did not pan out, but it is cool that it was considered.
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#85483
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I don't know if this has been posted already if it has I'm sorry.

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DA:I - Divine Heretic

Another one of those moments that never saw the light of day, but made for some interesting and heated discussion internally. We thought it would be interesting if you gained enough power you could name yourself Divine. It would be twice as hard to do if you played as a male, and for the hardcore player it would twice as hard again to do it as a male Qunari. An effectively game and lore breaking act of heresy. Not even a little bit surprised we backed away from this one. 

http://mattrhodesart...er-one-of-those

I love that art! Lelianna is crying because you broke her Chantry and Cassandra has a severe case of the grumps.

 

It is not surprising at all that they didn't allow that option, it would have been 100% impossible to reconcile with other endings for future games. It might've been cool if they added it in a dlc with the warning that if you choose the option that world state will not be able to be carried forward (similar to Shepard's Death in ME2).

 

 

That art is just so cool, and perfectly sums up exactly what it would mean if a Male Quizzy declared himself Divine.


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#85484
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Dragon Age @dragonage

We're celebrating #ComicBookDay by giving away sets of Dragon Age comics!

 

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#85485
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Karin Weekes @KarinWeekes

#ilooklikeagamedev Partner, Mama, Woman Of A Certain Age, a decade into making games, and loving all of it.

 

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No he doesn't?  :huh:  He mentions that the (warrior) Inquisitor travels on a path s/he does not dislike, and enjoys the muscles as a side benefit. The subsequent flirt dialogue can then be chosen by female Lavellans after he says that.

 

Yes he does, in the cut dialogue I linked to.



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Yes he does, in the cut dialogue I linked to.

 

Those are the exact lines Solas uses for a female Lavellan. It's the Inquisitor that has extra dialogue for the romance, which again, they most likely just recorded all of the lines anyway regardless of gender. It's great that modders can use that to make a bi mod, but using it as "proof" that the devs are lying is just a crappy thing to do no matter how you phrase it. Headcanon that Solas is bi in your game if that is your wish, and if you want to use the mod then it's your roll and it changes no one's game. But people need to stop using this as shaky validation that Solas is canonically bi when his writer has gone on the record as stating he is, in fact, not. Respect the creators at least that much.

 

And this really should be taken to another thread since it's not on topic here.


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#85488
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You know, I think I would be miffed Cullen and Solas were bi. Because of how their stories turn out, I don't mind female players getting two extra options since Blackwall and Solas turn out to be Dean Keaton and Keyser Soze respectively. But two extra options for the gay dudes as well? Now you're leaving the straight dudes and the lesbians out in the cold.

Pick on me if you want; I can take it. But won't somebody please think about the lesbians?
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#85489
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Dragon Age @dragonage

Get out there and hone your skills, agents! http://bit.ly/1YGjfwL  #DAIMP

 

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#85490
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BioWare @bioware 2m2 minutes ago

Commander Cullen, seen here smiling.

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You know, I think I would be miffed Cullen and Solas were bi. Because of how their stories turn out, I don't mind female players getting two extra options since Blackwall and Solas turn out to be Dean Keaton and Keyser Soze respectively. But two extra options for the gay dudes as well? Now you're leaving the straight dudes and the lesbians out in the cold.

Pick on me if you want; I can take it. But won't somebody please think about the lesbians?

I always think about the Lesbians......

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Is that not what you meant? ;)


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#85492
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I'm going to remain with my little grain of bitterness that Solas wasn't bi.  I was having a much more pleasant week before people decided this subject should be dredged up again.  But it can't be changed, and yes, it's rude to harass the devs about it.  Whether you're for or against it, it's time to LET IT GO, LET IT GOOOOO ~


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#85493
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BioWare @bioware

Not even knee high and already commanding all the armies of the Inquisition (Costume by Hotshot Cosplay)

 

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#85494
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Blair Brown @blairkerrbrown

So, looks like I'll be getting a bee tattoo courtesy of @theWitchElf tomorrow after my booth shift @EdmontonExpo #DAIMP #DragonsNDonuts



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BioWare @bioware

Commander Shepard channeling the power of the Inquisitor. @Mark_Meer #edmontonexpo

 

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#85496
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Mark of the Rift.

 

...

 

I should go.


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#85497
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Mark of the Rift.

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I should go.


Oh, don't be like that. It was Meerly a joke.
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#85498
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BioWare @bioware

Friends helping friends. Come by the BioWare booth at #EdmontonExpo and donate to @YESSorg for a chance to win prizes

 

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BioWare @bioware

“I am a fly in the ointment. I am a whisper in the shadows. I am also an old, old woman." #cosplaybug #EdmontonExpo

 

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#85500
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This is interesting but weird to me. So if you happen to have one parent who is an elf you share genetically not a single trait with them. You are completely 100 % human. You wouldn't even inherit their eye color or hair color.

I guess there's a reason, or multiple reasons, or whatever.

That makes no sense. The child would be a clone of the human parent. Come on Weekes, just saying "magic" doesn't cut it for me.


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