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Its an entertaining, fictional, horror universe some guy in the 20s thought up with his buddies while they were high, that people continue to add to today. Don't worry about it. ;)

 

They were high? My goodness I wonder what they were high on to come up with all that because that's not the product of any regular Elfroot.

 

edit: Must have been that Royal Elfroot :lol:


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#88127
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H.P. Lovecraft abstained from alcohol and drugs; he was just ... very strange. Also a huge bigot, but that's beside the point.


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H.P. Lovecraft abstained from alcohol and drugs; he was just ... very strange. Also a huge bigot, but who wasn't in those days?


Yeah, it's impossible to read Lovecraft without having a creeping dread about what the monster represented to the author (hint: the answer is usually "anything or anyone even slightly different to himself"). To call him xenophobic is perhaps understating his level of irrational fear - he feared change so much that he barely even left his hometown.

It's horror, but it's maaaaybe not the kind of horror Lovecraft intended to convey. :D

(fortunately, modern cosmic horror manages to keep the fear of the unknown without all the weird hangups Lovecraft had)

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H.P. Lovecraft abstained from alcohol and drugs; he was just ... very strange. Also a huge bigot, but that's beside the point.

Are you 100% on that? Cus I'm pretty sure I've read opiates were involved. Perhaps it was just the circle of friends who did them and not him, but I dunno.



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Solas is a Prothean (the ones here anyway) and Thedas is the time before the events in Mass Effect - the destruction of the Veil brings the Reapers. Muahahaha *cough*

 

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Just for reference, but those are Inusannon, the precursors to the Protheans.


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#88131
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Yeah, it's impossible to read Lovecraft without having a creeping dread about what the monster represented to the author (hint: the answer is usually "anything or anyone even slightly different to himself"). To call him xenophobic is perhaps understating his level of irrational fear - he feared change so much that he barely even left his hometown.

It's horror, but it's maaaaybe not the kind of horror Lovecraft intended to convey. :D

(fortunately, modern cosmic horror manages to keep the fear of the unknown without all the weird hangups Lovecraft had)

Is this b/c Call of Cthulu corresponds worship/knowledge of the Old Ones with minority sects like voodoo cults in the bayou or with aboriginal or inuit tribes? Cus I thought that was just the idea that the main body of humanity has forgotten how the world truly is, but those who keep the old ways have not. (With the semi-odd exception of a random port town in Maine or wherever that I assume is mostly a bunch of white Christians-in-name-only with a secret cult going in the caverns below town.)

 

If you guys are calling him racist for using terms like "negro" and such, I'd normally say that that might just be b/c that was the vernacular of the time. But, having heard/read Call of Cthulu, I'd agree the usage is kinda racist in intent.

 

But the racism doesn't come across with the monsters and their cults, imo.

 

I just want to note that the fact that I know any of this is Solas' fault. I wouldn't have listened to any Lovecraft audiobooks if Gareth David-Lloyd hadn't been reading them. lol



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Is this b/c Call of Cthulu corresponds worship/knowledge of the Old Ones with minority sects like voodoo cults in the bayou or with aboriginal or inuit tribes? Cus I thought that was just the idea that the main body of humanity has forgotten how the world truly is, but those who keep the old ways have not. (With the semi-odd exception of a random port town in Maine or wherever that I assume is mostly a bunch of white Christians-in-name-only with a secret cult going in the caverns below town.)

If you guys are calling him racist for using terms like "negro" and such, I'd normally say that that might just be b/c that was the vernacular of the time. But, having heard/read Call of Cthulu, I'd agree the usage is kinda racist in intent.

But the racism doesn't come across with the monsters and their cults, imo.

I just want to note that the fact that I know any of this is Solas' fault. I wouldn't have listened to any Lovecraft audiobooks if Gareth David-Lloyd hadn't been reading them. lol


Nah, Lovecraft's personal life was... unusual to say the least. It's not an impression that comes solely from the writing.

I may have overstated how much his fears come through in his writing. But, after reading his life story, it's hard for me not to wince at specific terms he uses when describing some of his monsters, especially their physical appearance. In reality, some of his stories aren't as overt in their "this is a metaphor for an ethnic group that I'm afraid of" aspect - especially when there's a large, singular monster. I shy away more from the stories that have hordes of fish people, or stuff like that.

And of course he was a product of his time, etc., etc. But he was rather insular and afraid of everything, even for his time. It wasn't only xenophobia - he was generally averse to change, even boring stuff like being in romantic relationships, or moving to a new city.

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Hey how about that WAGON RAGE MORE guy's, enuf about that HP Sauce dude, who want's to talk about DWARVEN GAUGE SOAR with teh nug's and the dorkspan and Soulass



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Just for reference, but those are Inusannon, the precursors to the Protheans.

 

:D Thank you! 



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Hey how about that WAGON RAGE MORE guy's, enuf about that HP Sauce dude, who want's to talk about DWARVEN GAUGE SOAR with teh nug's and the dorkspan and Soulass

.... Are you ok, dude?

 

You know, its frightening, but I actually understood that after a second read through. o.O

 

Bioware, tweet something and save my evildude's sanity! Preferably a new color block spoiler. That should do it.



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I read it three times. I still don't understand.

 

But after what I've learned today, I guess I can see where the themes of being small vs this unknowable, unfathomable external forces comes from.

 

But at the same time...we are small and the universe/reality of this...existence is so overwhelming large and mysterious..yet even within the small is the All. Like an atom. ..

 

Ah, but....eh. Back to our regularly scheduled programming. :)



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"Hey how about that WAGON RAGE MORE guy's, enuf about that HP Sauce dude, who want's to talk about DWARVEN GAUGE SOAR with teh nug's and the dorkspan and Soulass"

 

=

 

"Hey, how about that DRAGON AGE FOUR, guys! Enough about that HP Lovecraft. Who wants to talk about DRAGON AGE FOUR, with the nugs and the darkspawn and the Solas?"

 

:wizard:


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#88138
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I thought it appropos to steer the conversation away from Lovecraft with incoherent babbling. (I also didn't realize that HP Sauce isn't sold outside of the U.K. or Canada, or I'd never have made that joke.)

Coincidentally (or not?) I just wrote a codex about ghasts penned by Havard-Pierre d'Amortisan.
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#88139
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I thought it appropos to steer the conversation away from Lovecraft with incoherent babbling.

Coincidentally (or not?) I just wrote a codex about ghasts penned by Harvard-Pierre d'Amortisan.

 

How did I never notice the reference?! I feel a little dumb now, haha. Thanks for pointing it out! :lol:


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How did I never notice the reference?! I feel a little dumb now, haha. Thanks for pointing it out! :lol:


His scribe Dunwich is also a reference.

https://en.m.wikiped..._Dunwich_Horror
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I thought it appropos to steer the conversation away from Lovecraft with incoherent babbling. (I also didn't realize that HP Sauce isn't sold outside of the U.K. or Canada, or I'd never have made that joke.)

Coincidentally (or not?) I just wrote a codex about ghasts penned by Havard-Pierre d'Amortisan.

 

HP Sauce is also sold in Australia....but that's totally unrelated to twittering.
 



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HP Sauce is also sold in Australia....but that's totally unrelated to twittering.
 

 

You can find HP sauce in "international sections" of some grocery stores in the US. I have some in my fridge in fact. 



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From the archives: creating the giants of Thedas.

 

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Is this b/c Call of Cthulu corresponds worship/knowledge of the Old Ones with minority sects like voodoo cults in the bayou or with aboriginal or inuit tribes? Cus I thought that was just the idea that the main body of humanity has forgotten how the world truly is, but those who keep the old ways have not. (With the semi-odd exception of a random port town in Maine or wherever that I assume is mostly a bunch of white Christians-in-name-only with a secret cult going in the caverns below town.)

 

If you guys are calling him racist for using terms like "negro" and such, I'd normally say that that might just be b/c that was the vernacular of the time. But, having heard/read Call of Cthulu, I'd agree the usage is kinda racist in intent.

 

But the racism doesn't come across with the monsters and their cults, imo.

 

I just want to note that the fact that I know any of this is Solas' fault. I wouldn't have listened to any Lovecraft audiobooks if Gareth David-Lloyd hadn't been reading them. lol

Are you seriously saying you didn't see the racism in The Shadow Over Innsmouth?



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From the archives: creating the giants of Thedas.

 

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Rock-throwing assholes! For some reason, they ALWAYS aim for my rogue! Not the other rogues in the party, noooooooo. Just mine.


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#88146
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Are you seriously saying you didn't see the racism in The Shadow Over Innsmouth?

I'm honestly at a loss as to which one that is? Please PM me, though, so we don't continue to derail the thread. :)



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This'll be us again when the DA4 speculation really picks up steam. :ph34r:


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This'll be us again when the DA4 speculation really picks up steam. :ph34r:

 

pretty much yep that's accurate



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I'm honestly at a loss as to which one that is? Please PM me, though, so we don't continue to derail the thread. :)

That's the one with hordes of mutant fish people inhabiting a small New England town, I think.

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Guys have you seen on twitter Patrick Weeks said something about writing a novel. 

He has his own book series, not related to BioWare. 

 

Yeah, though this one is new and not part of his "Rogues of the Republic" series...

 

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New world. Could be standalone, could be start of something. Time will tell. :)


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