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[Cainhurst Crow]

Maybe it's a statue of darth revan, and these ruins will reveal how thedas is actually a planet in the star wars universe.

[Das Tentakel]

rapscallioness wrote...

...really? you think it's just random. generic hoodie statue? you guys went on for quite awhile abt whether the ruins were elven, or human, or dwarven and the diff in architecture. but there's a statue right there which is prolly an indicator of what the ruins are actually abt., and you think it's just sum stuff.

Yup, pretty much. Probably been in too many ruins and dungeons in too many CRPG's, I'm afraid.
If it was really a named person, the monument would probably 'stick out' more, but this one is quintessentially generic in terms of visuals. It's probably just added to set the mood (folded hands = dead dude = funerary monument = cemetery / tomb area = additionally creepy & ominous ). 

[rapscallioness]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Maybe it's a statue of darth revan, and these ruins will reveal how thedas is actually a planet in the star wars universe.

[rapscallioness]

Alright then. Speculating alone is no fun anyway.

[Wulfram]

Das Tentakel wrote...

Yup, pretty much. Probably been in too many ruins and dungeons in too many CRPG's, I'm afraid.
If it was really a named person, the monument would probably 'stick out' more, but this one is quintessentially generic in terms of visuals. It's probably just added to set the mood (folded hands = dead dude = funerary monument = cemetery / tomb area = additionally creepy & ominous ). 

In game, statues are liable to be generic and thus kind of meaningless because it's a way to save resources.

In concept art, they probably wouldn't stick in a statue without some particular reason.

But I can't come up with an interesting explanation for hooded guy.  Probably suggests not Andrastean.  Kind of broad shouldered to be an elf.  Might fit Tevinter, since hoods are kind of magey. 

Modifié par Wulfram, 26 juillet 2013 - 12:58 .

[legbamel]

Okay, I'll give it a shot: Who wears robes? Mages, but not Dalish ones. Where are mages going to get not only a respectful burial but a statue? One of two places: a ruined Circle or Tevinter. As Tevinter is a predictable answer I'm going to guess that the betrayal was a Right of Annulment from long ago, perhaps as part of an Exalted March.

Better?

[BioFan (Official)]

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

New info coming soon? EA to host Gamescom press conference.

9am central time, At least it's not in the middle of the night!

[keightdee]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Maybe it's a statue of darth revan, and these ruins will reveal how thedas is actually a planet in the star wars universe.

Now we're moving into Darkover territory. I heartily approve.

[rapscallioness]

Oh, Hai.

Okay, I'll give it a shot, too:

The armor on the statue reminds me of what we've seen of Inquisitor armor. (except possibly the trailer stuff. i'm not really sure what's going on there.)

But there's been a theme of Inquisitor armor having hoods. So, I thought maybe this was sum ancient Inquisitor keep/ruin that we find.

Altho the text abt "ancestors" makes me think more of a race of ppl as opposed to an organization

[Steppenwolf]

rapscallioness wrote...

But there's been a theme of Inquisitor armor having hoods.

...

No there hasn't. The Inquisitor forces in the trailer don't have hoods and we can't be 100% certain that the concept art of cloaked figures from the leak are the Inquisitor.

[rapscallioness]

i was thinking more WoT

https://encrypted-tb...8ncLt6VIQx1g33I

https://encrypted-tb...b9F1PCytKppVLKf


and i realise we don't know 100% but there's alot of hoods popping up in the da material:
https://encrypted-tb...znRsIEIjY0-GLKg

along w/ the promo material w/the hooded figure...who we still don;t know who they are if anyone.


altho it could be Tevinter:



(someone else drew the arrows on this..but..here it is:







and even in the original pic itself, the statue looks similar to what i can see of the figure standing in the archway of the ruins. even the shape of the pauldrons. ofc i'm assuming the figure in the archway in the inquisitor.




now ofc idk really know. it is spec on my part. even the inquisitor having a hoodie thing. but...i think it shows up enough to be intriguing.

idk wats going on w/the inquisitor minion armor in the trailer. i confess. do you think that would be the signature default inquisitor pc armor? or random minions? the bird armor?

[rapscallioness]

it would be interesting to me for us to find, or have to find, sum ancient Inquisitor Keep that contained long forgotten...documents/info/artifacts that could help us.

[TheBlackAdder13]

rapscallioness wrote...

it would be interesting to me for us to find, or have to find, sum ancient Inquisitor Keep that contained long forgotten...documents/info/artifacts that could help us.

The documents thing makes it sound way too derivitive of Origins. 

[rapscallioness]

yeah it does. i thought abt that as i was typing it.

maybe artifacts then? lol. but i would like to know more abt the org itself from original sources. and who knows what they knew?

the documents in DAO were just treaties. no secret info. or sumthing revelatory.

how old is the Inquisition? when did it start exactly? the original one.

[Tvorceskiy]

The shape of the figure's hood is similar to the Tevinter concept art.

[ladyofpayne]

I hope they left in party Chevalier and Grey Warden.

[Das Tentakel]

Wulfram wrote...

Das Tentakel wrote...

Yup, pretty much. Probably been in too many ruins and dungeons in too many CRPG's, I'm afraid.
If it was really a named person, the monument would probably 'stick out' more, but this one is quintessentially generic in terms of visuals. It's probably just added to set the mood (folded hands = dead dude = funerary monument = cemetery / tomb area = additionally creepy & ominous ). 

In game, statues are liable to be generic and thus kind of meaningless because it's a way to save resources.

In concept art, they probably wouldn't stick in a statue without some particular reason.

Tvorceskiy wrote...

The shape of the figure's hood is similar to the Tevinter concept art.

If you mean the adventurer / explorer (?), yes. Maybe copy-pasted from other concept art?

That reason may be that it's there to establish / reinforce mood. It's presumably a statue of a dead guy, because of the folded hands (as in a modern dead westerners in their coffin), in the sense of being a funerary monument.
Dead Guy = Funerary monument = cemetery / tomb = creepy.

I did check the first fantasy CRPG concept art book I had that came to hand (Two Worlds 2), and yes: statues, and no: they are not named in the game, and yes: they ended up as templates that were repeated in various dungeons or surface structures.

I repeat, it doesn't have to be a 'named' guy, and it is so lacking in individuality that it very well may be, if it ends up in the game, a 'template statue' that is going to be repeated ad nauseam. Or not; without the definitive game we're basically all just guessing, even if some guesses sound more plausible than others.

And as for hoods, well, 'hoods' of this type (I think English lacks a specific term, but in Dutch this is a 'capuchon', or 'Kapuze' in German) are traditionally associated with monks and from there they seem to have sort of drifted into the territory of mages, mystical warriors (Jedi and Sith) and assassins by way of movies and videogames.
Statues of assassins are not that likely, so it's plausibly 1) supposed to be a dude with mystical powers, who 2) might be a mystical warrior, but in the absence of visible weapons I doubt it.
So that probably leaves a mage of some sort.

Having said that, it would be nice if they individualized even generic tombs a bit. In late medieval Europe, tombs (or graves underneath the floor of a church) could be decorated with slabs with a depiction of the dead dude or dudette carved on it. These slabs have often been copied in two dimensions by way of stone rubbing, producing very nice 'flat' pictures, which look fairly plausible when you use them as textures for 'shallow' carved pictures on tombstones or slabs.

http://memodatabase....re?photoId=2737

(pity that dog BTW...)

I wonder if this would be less resource-intensive than individual statues and tomb layouts, and you still 'individualize' tombs of minor 'characters'.

Modifié par Das Tentakel, 26 juillet 2013 - 09:07 .

[Wolf]

rapscallioness wrote...

yeah it does. i thought abt that as i was typing it.

maybe artifacts then? lol. but i would like to know more abt the org itself from original sources. and who knows what they knew?

the documents in DAO were just treaties. no secret info. or sumthing revelatory.

how old is the Inquisition? when did it start exactly? the original one.

The Inqusition was established a few years after the First Blight in -100 Ancient before the establishment of the Chantry and the beginning of the age-based calendar now used. It was created with the goal of restoring order to the world, since after the colapse of the Tevinter Imperium blood mages, abominations and Old God cults were very widespread.

History lesson apart, I'd prefer to establish a completely new organization. I wouldn't mind references to the original Inquisition since we're bound to get some in-game comparisons, but I want to take the name and build a new force. Something original.

I wouldn't mind some documents detailing the Inquisition and explaining how they were structured, chain-of-command, how they trained, that kind of thing, but I'd prefer to start over. From scratch.

I'd also like some sort of comment, either in a codex entry or comment by a character about how nobody ever expected them/ expects us.

 

[ElitePinecone]

Gaiden96 wrote...

History lesson apart, I'd prefer to establish a completely new organization. I wouldn't mind references to the original Inquisition since we're bound to get some in-game comparisons, but I want to take the name and build a new force. Something original.

I wouldn't mind some documents detailing the Inquisition and explaining how they were structured, chain-of-command, how they trained, that kind of thing, but I'd prefer to start over. From scratch.

With the caveat that we don't really know the details, it does look like the Inquisition that arises in DAI is a new organisation, and largely (or completely) controlled by the player.

Whether it draws on the ancient organisation for legitimacy or name recognition is a different matter, but there seem to be strong suggestions that player choice will determine in large part what kind of organisation the Inquisition is, the factions it sides with, and even to a certain extent what sorts of methods it uses.

It's hard to tell how much of that is marketing fluff (and I'm intensely wary about wooly promises in Bioware games recently) but I think the aim is to have the player build an institution from scratch and mould it to their own will, and to a large extent to their own ends, while still aiming to prevent a big catastrophe. 

[ElitePinecone]

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Modifié par ElitePinecone, 26 juillet 2013 - 01:02 .

[Sers94]

Will BioWare be at PAX Prime in august ?

[ElitePinecone]

Yeah, Mike Laidlaw is going, not sure about other staff. I assume they'll do a panel.

[Tvorceskiy]

What I mean about the statue looking like the Tevinter concept art is that there is a possibility that the ruins are of Tevinter origin. The Imperium ruled most of Thedas before Andraste swept her army through, right? It is entirely possible that we will learn more about that time period; tying in with the idea that the Inquisition is still around if not prominent but underground or even just a small secret cache of them that comes foreward or is called upon during the huge upheaval in DA:I.

[TheInquisitor]

Another brown haired, bearded dude... if that is the protagonist. I hope he isn't, looks to similar to Hawke.

[keightdee]

The only thing I care about knowing anymore is if the cute brown girl holding the scroll from the survey ended up becoming a character in DA:I and if we can become #1 best bros.

Modifié par keightdee, 26 juillet 2013 - 07:41 .