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ladyofpayne wrote...

what do you think? 9 companions.


but 5 warriors and 6 men, very unbalanced

Ecmoose wrote...

DA: O had 6 warriors


And DAO had a terrible class balance

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ladyofpayne wrote...

Posted ImageWhat do you think? 9 companions.


Well we've seen Pre-Alpha footage of someone who looks like the Warden, and someone who looks like a female elf with a bow in addition to the three confirmed.
We've also seen that same qunari appearing throught the screenshots, although that would be a little harder to confirm due to the fact that because kossith are a completely different species, we could be seeing multiple qunari and just thinking they all look like the same guy, which would be pretty 'racist' of us to assume :P
The Elven Archer I'm a little skeptical of too, because Varric is already an archer, so if those two are the only Rogues, as you have listed, then we have no assassin type, which I don't think Bioware would do to us.
If that male elven mage in the back is Dorian, then I would be really intruiged to hear the story of how he became a Tevinter Magister, being an elf in a Slave Nation. That could make for a very cool - potentially shocking - story that would be so completely different from what we learned from Fenris.
As for Cullen and the Chevalier, I'm currently leaning in the direction that they would play a similar role as the ambassadors in ME3, acting as a voice for the Templars and Orlesian military to the Inquisition.
I know a lot of people would be upset to not get Cullen as a Companion, but doing the Mage-Warrior-Rogue Math, we've already got three warriors (Cass-Sword[Maybe Two Handed], Warden-Sword/Shield, and Iron Bull-Dual Sword [Arishok Style]) so having Cullen as another Sword and Shield would be less likely. He is all but confirmed though, since the voice actor tweeted that he was doing Cullen VO months ago, so I wouldn't put out hope just yet.

My biggest hope is that we haven't even seen or heard ANYTHING about some of the companions, because I want a really diverse cast of companions that I want to meet for the first time, not just learn more about like Cass and Varrick. I'm more interested in the Qunari they keep showing than Cullen.

I'm also holding out hope for Cole as a Day 1 DLC kind of character, because he would be a revolutionary character in the same way that Shale was in DA:O, she was a warrior, but not like anything we had before. Cole could be a new type of Rogue we've never played, or a weird stealth/melee mage, or he could even be new, exclusive hybrid class. Bioware's imagination is the limit with him, because we know almost nothing about him, which leaves a lot open for exploration.

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The "elven archer" has appeared in the alpha gameplay footage. And I suspect the "chevalier" may actually be a rogue.

Cole might be one of the characters completely gone since the survey (we haven't seen any hint of him since), but I'm also hoping he appears as a DLC character. He'd certainly be unusual, and I'm curious to see how he'd be implemented.

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Vapaä wrote...


but 5 warriors and 6 men, very unbalanced


The Chevalier and Dorian are probably rogues. 

As for the men, we're assuming that those ARE the final count. We don't know if old NPCs like Leliana will play a companion role yet. 

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Savber100 wrote...

Vapaä wrote...


but 5 warriors and 6 men, very unbalanced


The Chevalier and Dorian are probably rogues. 

As for the men, we're assuming that those ARE the final count. We don't know if old NPCs like Leliana will play a companion role yet. 


Dorian was described as a Tevinter Magister in the survey.  It isn't actually confirmed that the elven mage that's appeared a few times in the concept art is Dorian, but he's the only mage other than Vivienne who's appeared, so we're just kinda guessing/hoping.

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Savber100 wrote...

Vapaä wrote...


but 5 warriors and 6 men, very unbalanced


The Chevalier and Dorian are probably rogues. 

As for the men, we're assuming that those ARE the final count. We don't know if old NPCs like Leliana will play a companion role yet. 


You can't be a Tevinter Magister without being a mage...

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If that male elven mage in the back is Dorian, then I would be really intruiged to hear the story of how he became a Tevinter Magister, being an elf in a Slave Nation. That could make for a very cool - potentially shocking - story that would be so completely different from what we learned from Fenris.


While elves are generally slaves in Tevinter there do not appear to be any laws saying that they can not rise to the rank of Magister. Since Fenris' sister was being trained as a mage it stands to reason that even she could reach the rank of Magister. 

Modifié par Myrkale, 30 août 2013 - 06:49 .


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also humens ,elves ect can become slaves

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Savber100 wrote...
The Chevalier and Dorian are probably rogues.


That's still 4 warriors, I don't want the badly balanced DAO roaster, DA2 did it right

Savber100 wrote...
As for the men, we're assuming that those ARE the final count. We don't know if old NPCs like Leliana will play a companion role yet.


6 men and 3 women ? what a sausage fest

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dragondreamer wrote...

The "elven archer" has appeared in the alpha gameplay footage. And I suspect the "chevalier" may actually be a rogue.

Cole might be one of the characters completely gone since the survey (we haven't seen any hint of him since), but I'm also hoping he appears as a DLC character. He'd certainly be unusual, and I'm curious to see how he'd be implemented.


I'm tempted to say that we probably haven't seen Cole because he's invisible :P

Though yeah, it is noteworthy that we haven't heard a single thing about him except for that one mention in the survey. 

I think his story is fascinating, and I hope he's still in the game in some respect, but it could be a little hard to implement a character who is (apparently) invisible to practically everyone he meets. 

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6 men is normal- he had the same in Origins.

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I think his story is fascinating, and I hope he's still in the game in some respect, but it could be a little hard to implement a character who is (apparently) invisible to practically everyone he meets. 

Obsidian did pretty much that with One of Many. I thought he was one of the rare actually good (writing-wise) "chaotic evil" characters, using that alignment system.

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I don't think that Flaily Hands guy is a companion. David said many people in that pic are not companions.

We've seen someone like that Chill Elf dude in that pic with the pride demon that is one of the 3 people that follow the Quizzy.

I'd say that Cassandra, Varric, Cullen and Chill elf dude are our companions from that pic with map stabbing Quizzy.

But it still leaves one place for a companion....

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Savber100 wrote...

Vapaä wrote...


but 5 warriors and 6 men, very unbalanced


The Chevalier and Dorian are probably rogues. 

As for the men, we're assuming that those ARE the final count. We don't know if old NPCs like Leliana will play a companion role yet. 


If he's even in the game still, I highly doubt Dorian would be a rogue. He was described as a Tevinter magister.

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ladyofpayne wrote...

6 men is normal- he had the same in Origins.

Are you counting dog as a man? I mean, he's male technically... but that's hardly relevant to the human(oid) male/female social dynamic...

And considering Loghain and Alistair are mutually exclusive, an actual party only ever has four men, and three-four women, depending on whether you count Shale as such. (and she certainly has more claim to it than dog)

That's not to say I necessarily want the party to be equally represented in all races, classes, sexes. Feels very... quota.

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ladyofpayne wrote...

Posted ImageWhat do you think? 9 companions.


I highly doubt Dorian is an elf and I think Sera is the elf with the long black braid we've seen in some concept art. 

I've also become a bit dubious about the Iron Bull's companion status. I get the impression he's been moved to the role of an important NPC, possibly even an antagonist. 

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Chevalier can't be a rogue- they are knights.

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Vapaä wrote...

Savber100 wrote...
As for the men, we're assuming that those ARE the final count. We don't know if old NPCs like Leliana will play a companion role yet.


6 men and 3 women ? what a sausage fest



If Leliana is included in the 9 companions that takes out one of the 'listed' companions. Since Cassandra, Vivivenne, and likely Sera (you see her in multiple concept art accompanying the Inquistor) are confirmed, I can see one of the male characters being just a NPC/seneschal of your castle which gives 4 women, 5 men. 

Dorian being a Tenvinter mage is new to me. However, it makes sense seeing that if he wasn't, Vivivenne would be the only mage in the party.

ladyofpayne wrote...

Chevalier can't be a rogue- they are knights.


I'm using the term 'chevalier' because it's the label that people have placed on our mustached companion. In saying that, I'm judging his class based on the leaked survey: 

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The spear and his garb seems to indicate a rogue rather than knight. It also make sense than Bioware having 5+ warriors.

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Ehh, templars are a "knightly" order (knight captain, knight commander) and they have "hunters." (if one would object for its association with DA2, I would say it is still a legitimate space that they occupied for more roguelike templars).

I'd call the "dark knight" basically a rogue too. (uh oh, derailment potential: maximum)

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Anyone know if we can watch what goes on at PAX? (for those that cant obviously make it there)

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Legenlorn wrote...

Anyone know if we can watch what goes on at PAX? (for those that cant obviously make it there)


Yes

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Savber100 wrote...

I'm using the term 'chevalier' because it's the label that people have placed on our mustached companion. In saying that, I'm judging his class based on the leaked survey: 

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The spear and his garb seems to indicate a rogue rather than knight. It also make sense than Bioware having 5+ warriors.


Chevalier use lance/spears in Orlais and they are a Warrior spec in Dragon Age RGP Set 3 (is it released yet?). If that guy is a Chevalier, he's a Warrior. DA2 had "rogue" Templar just for diversity of enemies, you couldn't be a rogue templar yourself in-game.

Also, Fenris was running around barefoot with leather clothing in DA2. Iconic look doesn't really say anything about the class. Even Cassandra is pretty much in "rogue" garb in the in-game screenshots we have right now (and her concept art in the Follower's blog alternate between full plate and 'leather' too).

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Legenlorn wrote...

Anyone know if we can watch what goes on at PAX? (for those that cant obviously make it there)


The main event on Saturday US time at 1:30 will be streamed live at: http://www.twitch.tv/team/pax

The other panels are apparently going to be recorded as podcasts and put up online, like they did for PAX East (I think it was).

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Well maybe the spear is a staff?
I mean mustache guy has no real armor , he's sort of wrapped up in some white blanket ...
Maybe Mustache guy is Dorian the magister , he sure doesn't look like he belongs in Tevinter and he seems a bit "flamboyant" with the facial hair and everything?

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ElitePinecone wrote...
The main event on Saturday US time at 1:30 will be streamed live at: http://www.twitch.tv/team/pax

The other panels are apparently going to be recorded as podcasts and put up online, like they did for PAX East (I think it was).


But where we can see today event "Dragon Age: Inquisition – Crafting and Customization" ??

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Argahawk wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...
The main event on Saturday US time at 1:30 will be streamed live at: http://www.twitch.tv/team/pax

The other panels are apparently going to be recorded as podcasts and put up online, like they did for PAX East (I think it was).


But where we can see today event "Dragon Age: Inquisition – Crafting and Customization" ??


I assume when it's uploaded online as a podcast. 

Bioware are running that panel themselves so it's not on the official PAX channel.

Added the panel information to the OP, by the way.