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[Steppenwolf]

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Asunder spoilers, I guess)

Wasn't Lambert killed by Cole? I thought that was the implication of the ending, unless it was a trick or something?

There's no legitimate reason at this point to think he's still alive. If he's alive why would he disappear? If he's possessed by Cole why wouldn't Cole be using his body to undermine the Seekers from the highest point of authority? 

[AresKeith]

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Asunder spoilers, I guess)

Wasn't Lambert killed by Cole? I thought that was the implication of the ending, unless it was a trick or something?

They never directly said if Cole killed him, so it's still left open

[Lady Lionheart]

I reckon it is more probable that he did kill him.

[SgtElias]

Xbox360Girl1321 wrote...

@Angrywolves

If he isn't then my Inquisitor will make sure he is.

I'm not one for killing characters (I almost always spare everyone I can get away with), but yeah; if for some reason he's alive I can't imagine he'll make it to the end of the game.

BasilKarlo wrote...

There's no legitimate reason at this point to think he's still alive. If he's alive why would he disappear? If he's possessed by Cole why wouldn't Cole be using his body to undermine the Seekers from the highest point of authority? 

While I agree with you, I'm not sure I'd assume Cole would intentionally work to undermine the Seekers (yet) even if he did possess Lambert. He seems more interested in figuring himself (and his place in the world) out. That's how I read him, anyway.

Though I kinda like your version better, to be honest.

I really, really hope Cole is a companion. I think his story arc could be really interesting.

[The Elder King]

@SgtEias: I think that by the end of Asunder Cole realize what he is and his past.

[Lady Lionheart]

Seconded.

[Master Warder Z_]

BasilKarlo wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Asunder spoilers, I guess)

Wasn't Lambert killed by Cole? I thought that was the implication of the ending, unless it was a trick or something?

There's no legitimate reason at this point to think he's still alive. If he's alive why would he disappear? If he's possessed by Cole why wouldn't Cole be using his body to undermine the Seekers from the highest point of authority? 

There is also no legitimate reason to think him dead beyond a single sentence in the world of thedas "Missing and presumed dead." 

Many characters have done the whole disapear and reappear within various series including DA.

Namely King Maric to avoid going into heavy spoilers who wasn't quite as dead as most thought.

[andar91]

I feel sorta weird about this, but I honestly don't get that excited by the prospect of Cole as a companion. He was interesting, but... eh.

[Fast Jimmy]

I could see Cole being the DLC companion.

Or, strictly for the lolz, Cullen.

[Steppenwolf]

Master Warder Z wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Asunder spoilers, I guess)

Wasn't Lambert killed by Cole? I thought that was the implication of the ending, unless it was a trick or something?

There's no legitimate reason at this point to think he's still alive. If he's alive why would he disappear? If he's possessed by Cole why wouldn't Cole be using his body to undermine the Seekers from the highest point of authority? 

There is also no legitimate reason to think him dead beyond a single sentence in the world of thedas "Missing and presumed dead." 

Yeah, sure, if you ignore the fact that the last time he was ever seen alive was with an angry, serial killer spirit sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat, telling him he's going to die.

[The Elder King]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I could see Cole being the DLC companion.

Or, strictly for the lolz, Cullen.

It depends on who is the companion Gaider wanted to write for 15 years. He wrote Cole for Asunder, but it's not the same as writing of a game. And I can't think of anyone else he'd be referring to.
If Cole is that companion Gaider was talking about, I don't think he'll be a dlc.

[SgtElias]

hhh89 wrote...

@SgtEias: I think that by the end of Asunder Cole realize what he is and his past.

Mm, fair enough. I assumed it was sort of an ongoing struggle for him, thus lessening the likelihood of him doing something like working against the Seekers without some sort of encouragement (like from our PC?).

Buuuuut that was just my assumption. I've been known to accidentally make things up in my brain before now.

[keightdee]

Angrywolves wrote...

Gaider does the bulk of the writing.I do find it perplexing it isn't divided up more equally, but he is lead writer.

What? I don't think that's true at all. He does have a lot of responsibility, but surely he doesn't do the bulk of the work. Why have an entire team with awesome folks like Mary, Sheryl, Sylvia, Patrick, Luke (and other people I'm probably forgetting) if you're going to have one guy do all the work? Not to mention their big editing team (full of awesome people!) who definitely have a stake in the writing process. ?????

[mjjdj88]

very helpful! thanks for the post!

[Angrywolves]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Asunder spoilers, I guess)

Wasn't Lambert killed by Cole? I thought that was the implication of the ending, unless it was a trick or something?

There's no legitimate reason at this point to think he's still alive. If he's alive why would he disappear? If he's possessed by Cole why wouldn't Cole be using his body to undermine the Seekers from the highest point of authority? 

There is also no legitimate reason to think him dead beyond a single sentence in the world of thedas "Missing and presumed dead." 

Yeah, sure, if you ignore the fact that the last time he was ever seen alive was with an angry, serial killer spirit sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat, telling him he's going to die.

It would amuse Gaider to have things change just to surprise us.:innocent:

Knightdee says:

"What? I don't think that's true at all. He does have a lot of responsibility, but surely he doesn't do the bulk
of the work. Why have an entire team with awesome folks like Mary,
Sheryl, Sylvia, Patrick, Luke (and other people I'm probably forgetting)
if you're going to have one guy do all the work? Not to mention their
big editing team (full of awesome people!) who definitely have a stake
in the writing process. ?????"

That's what I've read.Been through one flame war today so I'll just say I read it somewhere.

He has allegedly I will say done the bulk in the past and leave it at that. I'll use the word allegedly.Smiles.

Be happy to admit if I am wrong.

Maybe Gaider will come in and let us know.

Modifié par Angrywolves, 06 janvier 2014 - 02:09 .

[Master Warder Z_]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Asunder spoilers, I guess)

Wasn't Lambert killed by Cole? I thought that was the implication of the ending, unless it was a trick or something?

There's no legitimate reason at this point to think he's still alive. If he's alive why would he disappear? If he's possessed by Cole why wouldn't Cole be using his body to undermine the Seekers from the highest point of authority? 

There is also no legitimate reason to think him dead beyond a single sentence in the world of thedas "Missing and presumed dead." 

Yeah, sure, if you ignore the fact that the last time he was ever seen alive was with an angry, serial killer spirit sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat, telling him he's going to die.

Also ignore the fact the last time they encountered each other he dispelled Cole with a few lines of text.

You tend to forget the Litany is effective at dispelling spirits as well as combating blood magic, Lambert knows the litany and therefore he doesn't even need his sword to combat cole.

He has to speak a handful of words and cole is banished back to the fade and when he returns i doubt Lambert would be in the same disadvantaged position again, he picked that moment because in a stand up one on one fight hardly Any one in thedas can match a seeker.

Modifié par Master Warder Z , 06 janvier 2014 - 02:50 .

[Zatche]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Yeah, sure, if you ignore the fact that the last time he was ever seen alive was with an angry, serial killer spirit sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat, telling him he's going to die.

If he was dead, why would they leave that open? The big reveal is "oh, Cole did kill him after all." That would seem a bit pointless to me.

[azarhal]

hhh89 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I could see Cole being the DLC companion.

Or, strictly for the lolz, Cullen.

It depends on who is the companion Gaider wanted to write for 15 years. He wrote Cole for Asunder, but it's not the same as writing of a game. And I can't think of anyone else he'd be referring to.
If Cole is that companion Gaider was talking about, I don't think he'll be a dlc.

Why would Cole by the follower Gaider wanted to write for 15 years? Just because he's a special entity with the mentality of a child (Gaider said that in a romance thread on the forum)? For all we know, Gaider's greatest writting desirer was a really common trope.

[Steppenwolf]

Master Warder Z wrote...

Also ignore the fact the last time they encountered each other he dispelled Cole with a few lines of text.

You tend to forget the Litany is effective at dispelling spirits as well as combating blood magic, Lambert knows the litany and therefore he doesn't even need his sword to combat cole.

He has to speak a handful of words and cole is banished back to the fade and when he returns i doubt Lambert would be in the same disadvantaged position again, he picked that moment because in a stand up one on one fight hardly Any one in thedas can match a seeker.

The knife was already at his neck. What's he gonna do, say the whole litany before Cole can swipe the blade a few inches?

Zatche wrote...

If he was dead, why would they leave that open? The big reveal is "oh, Cole did kill him after all." That would seem a bit pointless to me.

Why does it have to be a big reveal? 

[ElitePinecone]

hhh89 wrote...

It depends on who is the companion Gaider wanted to write for 15 years. He wrote Cole for Asunder, but it's not the same as writing of a game. And I can't think of anyone else he'd be referring to.

Totally a guess, but if Dorian is still in the game he sounds like the sort of character that Mr Gaider might enjoy writing. 

A snarky Wildean dandy that can throw fireballs isn't exactly common in videogames.

(Though maybe they replaced him with Vivienne, now that I think about it...)

[BioFan (Official)]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I could see Cole being the DLC companion.

Or, strictly for the lolz, Cullen.

I would hate it, but I would be forced to fork over the money, only because it's cullen. 

[Suledin]

Master Warder Z wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Asunder spoilers, I guess)

Wasn't Lambert killed by Cole? I thought that was the implication of the ending, unless it was a trick or something?

There's no legitimate reason at this point to think he's still alive. If he's alive why would he disappear? If he's possessed by Cole why wouldn't Cole be using his body to undermine the Seekers from the highest point of authority? 

There is also no legitimate reason to think him dead beyond a single sentence in the world of thedas "Missing and presumed dead." 

Yeah, sure, if you ignore the fact that the last time he was ever seen alive was with an angry, serial killer spirit sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat, telling him he's going to die.

Also ignore the fact the last time they encountered each other he dispelled Cole with a few lines of text.

You tend to forget the Litany is effective at dispelling spirits as well as combating blood magic, Lambert knows the litany and therefore he doesn't even need his sword to combat cole.

He has to speak a handful of words and cole is banished back to the fade and when he returns i doubt Lambert would be in the same disadvantaged position again, he picked that moment because in a stand up one on one fight hardly Any one in thedas can match a seeker.

I doubt he had enough time to speak those words (with a knife to his throat). Anyway some men have to die and he is one of them. I hope Cole killed him then. If not...Well I hope I will be able to. 

[Banxey]

I don't think Lambert is dead, I know it has already been covered in this thread. But it makes sense for Cole to possess him. Cole knows that the only way he can exist outside of the fade is to kill people or possess someone.

Also, the Lord Seeker doesn't have the litany memorised. He reads it from a book.

[Danny Boy 7]

azarhal wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I could see Cole being the DLC companion.

Or, strictly for the lolz, Cullen.

It depends on who is the companion Gaider wanted to write for 15 years. He wrote Cole for Asunder, but it's not the same as writing of a game. And I can't think of anyone else he'd be referring to.
If Cole is that companion Gaider was talking about, I don't think he'll be a dlc.

Why would Cole by the follower Gaider wanted to write for 15 years? Just because he's a special entity with the mentality of a child (Gaider said that in a romance thread on the forum)? For all we know, Gaider's greatest writting desirer was a really common trope.

I remember that a long time ago he wrote something either on Twitter or his blog about how Cole mirrored the loneliness he felt when he was younger and bonded him with Cole or something to that effect. Mind it's been a while, but that's why when they said an Asunder character would show up I jumped on Cole, well that and the survey leak, but mostly that post.

Could be that writing him is therapeutic or maybe there is an aspect of his character we haven't gotten to see yet. Who knows.

[Danny Boy 7]

Angrywolves wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Asunder spoilers, I guess)

Wasn't Lambert killed by Cole? I thought that was the implication of the ending, unless it was a trick or something?

There's no legitimate reason at this point to think he's still alive. If he's alive why would he disappear? If he's possessed by Cole why wouldn't Cole be using his body to undermine the Seekers from the highest point of authority? 

There is also no legitimate reason to think him dead beyond a single sentence in the world of thedas "Missing and presumed dead." 

Yeah, sure, if you ignore the fact that the last time he was ever seen alive was with an angry, serial killer spirit sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat, telling him he's going to die.

It would amuse Gaider to have things change just to surprise us.:innocent:

Knightdee says:

"What? I don't think that's true at all. He does have a lot of responsibility, but surely he doesn't do the bulk
of the work. Why have an entire team with awesome folks like Mary,
Sheryl, Sylvia, Patrick, Luke (and other people I'm probably forgetting)
if you're going to have one guy do all the work? Not to mention their
big editing team (full of awesome people!) who definitely have a stake
in the writing process. ?????"

That's what I've read.Been through one flame war today so I'll just say I read it somewhere.

He has allegedly I will say done the bulk in the past and leave it at that. I'll use the word allegedly.Smiles.

Be happy to admit if I am wrong.

Maybe Gaider will come in and let us know.

I think you might be mistaking earlier work with his more recent stuff. I remember in several posts on his blog he was brought in during KOTOR and BG2 (that one might be wrong) and he churned out a lot of content/writing, being something of a machine.

I think he says that a lot of his current work is administrative (not entirely, but quite a bit), but he still has a full work load. Not to mention that even if he and two other writers do most if not all the companions there is still the main plot line, side quests, hundreds of NPCs as well as anything else I can't think of.