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[keightdee]

Kallimachus wrote...

keightdee wrote...

I liked the tone symbols. They were helpful. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯

And moreover, keightdee, I really like that smiley! What's the key between the brackets?

It's the kana for tsu. I'm too lazy to turn on the Japanese keyboard when I want to use the shrug smiley, though, so I just keep this page bookmarked so I can copy+paste.

In Twitter news, the Irrational shutdown has really thrown me for a loop. 180+ people make a series of hugely popular, critically acclaimed games that rake in HALF A BILLION DOLLARS and they all get canned so Ken Levine can go make auteur games? What the hell? Props to the Bioware folks for reaching out with work. What a shame. Man.

[azarhal]

keightdee wrote...

In Twitter news, the Irrational shutdown has really thrown me for a loop. 180+ people make a series of hugely popular, critically acclaimed games that rake in HALF A BILLION DOLLARS and they all get canned so Ken Levine can go make auteur games? What the hell? Props to the Bioware folks for reaching out with work. What a shame. Man.

It's really bizarre isn't...

[Ilidan_DA]

Can't wait till DA:I is released. Will more information be available at E3?

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw:

I expect so, but probably some snippets will come out before then.

[Hellion Rex]

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Can't wait till DA:I is released. Will more information be available at E3?

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw:

I expect so, but probably some snippets will come out before then.

Damn, if we only get "snippets" before then, does that mean Bioware will have a limited presence at PAX East?

[Bond]

BeadyEyedTater wrote...

LoyalFan wrote...

I meant the whole dialogue system.

I hope for your sake you are not holding your breath.

I found the icons helpful, and the tone an enjoyable change of pace, but I'm not overly attached to the tone. Judging by what has been said by Mr. Gaider, sounds like they have made some interesting changes to dialogue anyway, so I won't start gnashing my teeth just yet.

Please give me a link, as i tend to find exactly the opposite. The only thing i found is dropping the dominant tone. Everything else i read was saying that they will do conversations "very similar" to DA 2.

[ElitePinecone]

keightdee wrote...

In Twitter news, the Irrational shutdown has really thrown me for a loop. 180+ people make a series of hugely popular, critically acclaimed games that rake in HALF A BILLION DOLLARS and they all get canned so Ken Levine can go make auteur games? What the hell? Props to the Bioware folks for reaching out with work. What a shame. Man.

It's a bit shell-shocking that another AAA studio is now pretty much irreversibly shut down because the leader decided he wanted to go off and do something else.

As Jos Hendricks (Bioware dev said:

Jos HeN7driks[/b] ‏@Sjosz  Like many others, I just don't understand, as an outsider, how the studio gets closed instead of getting a new head to run things.
Jos HeN7driks[/b] ‏@Sjosz  I mean, that team did make Bioshock and BioShock Infinite. They're obviously really good at what they do. Why not leverage that team?

[Wulfram]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I'm not sure if it the reason "why" or not, but sticking with one tone enough opened up options and outcomes that wouldn't have been available otherwise. So being all-aggressive means you get content that wouldn't be seen if you were aggressive sometimes and not others. As an example.

No, all that mattered was which tone was dominant, there was no difference between someone with a marginally dominant aggressive tone and minorly aggressive tone.

[Fast Jimmy]

Wulfram wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I'm not sure if it the reason "why" or not, but sticking with one tone enough opened up options and outcomes that wouldn't have been available otherwise. So being all-aggressive means you get content that wouldn't be seen if you were aggressive sometimes and not others. As an example.

No, all that mattered was which tone was dominant, there was no difference between someone with a marginally dominant aggressive tone and minorly aggressive tone.

Right, but if you flip flopped on your dominant tone (like a Hawke was equally sarcastic and diplomatic), then it becomes like flipping a coin, especially when you had no idea when these events were being triggered, let alone checked for. 

As Gaider termed it, doing "card tricks in the dark." You had benefits from the dominant tone, but you never knew they were she fits unless you meta-games and saw that the content was no longer there. Similarly, you never were notified you missed any content because of such a thing, so it leaves people with the impression that it didn't matter what dialogue choices they made or what tone they were. 

And, if that is how someone perceives your game, then that is how your game actually is, regardless of the difference. 

[Fast Jimmy]

eluvianix wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Can't wait till DA:I is released. Will more information be available at E3?

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw:

I expect so, but probably some snippets will come out before then.

Damn, if we only get "snippets" before then, does that mean Bioware will have a limited presence at PAX East?

Huh. This is reminding me of Spring 2013 all over again... my Warden sense is tingling. 

And not in a good way. 

[FireAndBlood]

eluvianix wrote...

Damn, if we only get "snippets" before then, does that mean Bioware will have a limited presence at PAX East?

Well the dev diaries are coming up but yeah I think having PAX East less than three months before E3 really hurts its chances of being a place where devs make major reveals.

[Fast Jimmy]

FireAndBlood wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Damn, if we only get "snippets" before then, does that mean Bioware will have a limited presence at PAX East?

Well the dev diaries are coming up but yeah I think having PAX East less than three months before E3 really hurts its chances of being a place where devs make major reveals.

Which would be a shame, because E3 is rarely a good venue to do anything but reveal a two minute trailer. 

[Spectre slayer]

We'll have to see, but those kind of "unlocked" dialogue options might not exist in Inquisition. For all we know, some sort of Persuasion type skill has been reintroduced to the game. I like the tone icons as way to understand what my character is about to say (and how they'll say it). Since dominant tone has been removed, we will probably not find ourselves marching down one particular path quite as often

 I agree, I didn't have a big problem with the icons but the dominant tone and the really inaccurate paraphrasing which lead to some really odd things that we said, and yes there will be a persuasion skill.

LoyalFan wrote...

BeadyEyedTater wrote...

LoyalFan wrote...
I meant the whole dialogue system.

I hope for your sake you are not holding your breath.
I found the icons helpful, and the tone an enjoyable change of pace, but I'm not overly attached to the tone. Judging by what has been said by Mr. Gaider, sounds like they have made some interesting changes to dialogue anyway, so I won't start gnashing my teeth just yet.

Please give me a link, as i tend to find exactly the opposite. The only thing i found is dropping the dominant tone. Everything else i read was saying that they will do conversations "very similar" to DA 2.

It'll be closer to a mix of DAO and DA2, Laidlaw already confirmed that persuasion is making a comeback in the game informer special podcast and will include how to talk to nobility and everything that goes with that, and there are some different skill trees in DAI but we don't know much about that.

The paraphrasing is going to be much more accurate, they got rid of the dominant tone and are using some of the icons like the fist for aggressive, heart for flirting, and the investigate option along with persuasion and whatever else they are putting in nor have we seen it in action fully, only briefly 2 times that didn't show off the icons or anything so it's to early to judge the new wheel when we haven't really seen it in action.

http://www.gameinfor...inquistion.aspx

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 18 février 2014 - 08:21 .

[LolaLei]

eluvianix wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Can't wait till DA:I is released. Will more information be available at E3?

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw:

I expect so, but probably some snippets will come out before then.

Damn, if we only get "snippets" before then, does that mean Bioware will have a limited presence at PAX East?

Makes me wonder what's in those dev diaries, if it's only gonna be snippets lol.

[Fast Jimmy]

^

Nothing but nyan cat videos, for eight hours straight.

[Cribbian]

Maybe they're ogre-sized snippets

[Steppenwolf]

azarhal wrote...

keightdee wrote...

In Twitter news, the Irrational shutdown has really thrown me for a loop. 180+ people make a series of hugely popular, critically acclaimed games that rake in HALF A BILLION DOLLARS and they all get canned so Ken Levine can go make auteur games? What the hell? Props to the Bioware folks for reaching out with work. What a shame. Man.

It's really bizarre isn't...

I suspect Levine's desire to break into film/Hollywood has a lot to do with this. He's also done a pretty effective job of making himself the ONLY face of the studio. With him gone the studio looks like an empty shell. In reality he was just one of many brilliant people making brilliant games but the entertainment industry doesn't take reality into account.

[BioFan (Official)]

LolaLei wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Can't wait till DA:I is released. Will more information be available at E3?

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw:

I expect so, but probably some snippets will come out before then.

Damn, if we only get "snippets" before then, does that mean Bioware will have a limited presence at PAX East?

Makes me wonder what's in those dev diaries, if it's only gonna be snippets lol.

there are only 10 days left in the month.... 

[Hellion Rex]

Ericander77 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Can't wait till DA:I is released. Will more information be available at E3?

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw:

I expect so, but probably some snippets will come out before then.

Damn, if we only get "snippets" before then, does that mean Bioware will have a limited presence at PAX East?

Makes me wonder what's in those dev diaries, if it's only gonna be snippets lol.

there are only 10 days left in the month.... 

I'm callin BS if they wait till the exact end of the month to release the first one.

[Lady Lionheart]

We've about ten more days to go, then.
Imagine how awesome it would be if we got the diary tomorrow.. (hint-hint wink-wink Bioware!)

[BioFan (Official)]

I bet that they will space them out to be last week of feb, and once a week in march.

[FireAndBlood]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Which would be a shame, because E3 is rarely a good venue to do anything but reveal a two minute trailer. 

E3 kicks off convention season, they can show off a trailer and gameplay during the EA conference and go into more details during the live stage demos with game websites and then there is Gamescon, Comic-Con and PAX Prime among many other conventions which they can use to spread out the reveal of new information over 2 to 3 months instead of doing a reveal at PAX East and then waiting three months for E3 .

[FireAndBlood]

Ericander77 wrote...

I bet that they will space them out to be last week of feb, and once a week in march.

I think that is likely, also The Masked Empire will be released in April which should give us a clearer picture of the state of affairs in Orlais and then BioWare can hopefully open up a bit about the plot.

[Hellion Rex]

Curses!!!!

@(Me): regarding one of your previous tweets about info, will BioWare have a presence at PAX East?


Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw: I'm not positive. I know I am going, but not if we're going to be there in official capacities.

Modifié par eluvianix, 18 février 2014 - 10:16 .

[King Cousland]

eluvianix wrote...

Curses!!!!

@(Me): regarding one of your previous tweets about info, will BioWare have a presence at PAX East?


Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw: I'm not positive. I know I am going, but not if we're going to be there in official capacities.

[Enad]

Strange that it seems like Bioware is shying away from major outlets for publicity(Good press is something they need unfortunatly, I'm not a fool who believes ME3 was a disaster or DA2 was as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but many other people follow the herd of haters...).

Not that dev diaries and online announcements aren't effective these days. It's just for maximum expose I would have hoped they could get DA:I's name out there at big conventions and stuff, make a bigger presence than at E3 last year...where DAI got a 2 min video and Plants Vs Zombies got 10 + minutes....