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[levi.porphyrogenitus]

Just a pedantic quibble, but should it not be Knights-Captain in Shining Armor?

[ElitePinecone]

levi.porphyrogenitus wrote...

Just a pedantic quibble, but should it not be Knights-Captain in Shining Armor?

As a fellow pedant, I did think about this for a while.

Many plurals of titles/positions do put the plural form on the first word ("Governors-General", "mothers-in-law", 'knights-errant", "passers-by") but only when the later word(s) describe(s) the first. 

"Knight-Captain" is a military rank, like brigadier general or lieutenant colonel, and so its plural becomes "Knight-Captains" rather than "Knights-Captain". 

(I'm not entirely sure of this though, and I'd be interested if anyone finds a source that puts it as Knights-Captain)

[levi.porphyrogenitus]

I'd say Captain is a descriptive modifier. Think about it. In a hypothetical organization, you might have Squires, Sergeants, Knights, Knights-Lieutenant, Knights-Captain, and Knights-Commander.

[ElitePinecone]

Modern military organisations treat compound words as one term for the sake of plurals, even if they were once a rank and a descriptive modifier. We have brigadier generals, major generals, lieutenant generals, etc - the first word describes the second, rather than the other way around.

I don't think a "Knight-Captain" is a "Knight" modified by a "Captain" (in fact, I'd say Knight is the descriptive modifier here). If other ranks include sergeants, then a Knight-Captain is a captain who happens, by virtue of that rank, to be a knight also.

The Word of Gaider could sort out this linguistic dilemma!

[Vilegrim]

ElitePinecone wrote...

levi.porphyrogenitus wrote...

Just a pedantic quibble, but should it not be Knights-Captain in Shining Armor?

As a fellow pedant, I did think about this for a while.

Many plurals of titles/positions do put the plural form on the first word ("Governors-General", "mothers-in-law", 'knights-errant", "passers-by") but only when the later word(s) describe(s) the first. 

"Knight-Captain" is a military rank, like brigadier general or lieutenant colonel, and so its plural becomes "Knight-Captains" rather than "Knights-Captain". 

(I'm not entirely sure of this though, and I'd be interested if anyone finds a source that puts it as Knights-Captain)

well in England the plural of Lord-Lieutenant is Lord-Lieutenants.  By pluralising the Lieutenant it makes clear it's a military, rather than noble rank (it is actually an honourary postion as the queens representative in the county now, lets just say when Henry VIII first appointed them, they could be more...muscular than simply sorting out who was allergic to what for the meet and greet meal)

[Anny78]

Thank you for this thread, it might be useful and fun following it - but I won't be here too often after my experince with the ME3 twitter thread, I promise! (It was full of teasing, I took it propably too seriously or what and was then disappointed by the game.)


OT: to the Knights-Captain X Knight-Captains issue.

The official DA Templar Order ranks are (source: DA wiki):
Knight-Divine
Knight-Vigilant
Knight-Commander
Knight-Captain
Knight-Lieutenant
Knight-Corporal
Templar

English is not my native language, but imho the "Knight" could be substituted by Templar (meaning the Templar Order, all the Knights/Templars), so the "Knight" in the word Knight-Captain means a "Captain (leader) of the Knights/Templars" and not how high/low the rank is X to some common military ranking system, where e.g. a Lieutenant is a low rank a Commander is a high rank and a Lieutenant Commander means it's one rank lower than a Commnader and not that it's the leading person of a bunch of Lieutenants.
So imho singular: Knight-Captain, plural: Knight-Captains

Modifié par Anny78, 20 septembre 2012 - 08:32 .

[R2s Muse]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Modern military organisations treat compound words as one term for the sake of plurals, even if they were once a rank and a descriptive modifier. We have brigadier generals, major generals, lieutenant generals, etc - the first word describes the second, rather than the other way around.

I don't think a "Knight-Captain" is a "Knight" modified by a "Captain" (in fact, I'd say Knight is the descriptive modifier here). If other ranks include sergeants, then a Knight-Captain is a captain who happens, by virtue of that rank, to be a knight also.

The Word of Gaider could sort out this linguistic dilemma!

I would tend to agree with this reasoning, that Knight is modifying captain, primarily because I thought they were trying the distinguish Cullen's position from Aveline's. Since he's the Knight-Captain and she's the Guard-Captain, I figured that the prefixes were telling us whether the captain was with the templars or with the guard. :shrug:

[Renmiri1]

[Sylvius the Mad]

Mark Darrah wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Mark Darrah ‏@BioMarkDarrah
Seriously considering a house shaped like a castle. May be working too hard on #DA3

Subtle!

No but look:
http://www.realtor.c...dKey=-246055332

That's way nicer than this one:
https://twitter.com/...052559345332224

[Sylvius the Mad]

ElitePinecone wrote...

levi.porphyrogenitus wrote...

Just a pedantic quibble, but should it not be Knights-Captain in Shining Armor?

As a fellow pedant, I did think about this for a while.

Many plurals of titles/positions do put the plural form on the first word ("Governors-General", "mothers-in-law", 'knights-errant", "passers-by") but only when the later word(s) describe(s) the first. 

"Knight-Captain" is a military rank, like brigadier general or lieutenant colonel, and so its plural becomes "Knight-Captains" rather than "Knights-Captain". 

I would agree.

[DiscoSludge]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Mark Darrah ‏@BioMarkDarrah
Seriously considering a house shaped like a castle. May be working too hard on #DA3

Subtle!

No but look:
http://www.realtor.c...dKey=-246055332

That's way nicer than this one:
https://twitter.com/...052559345332224

The only kind of homebase I will accept, tbh.

[Renmiri1]

David Gaider ‏@davidgaider

To the Cullen thread: be thankful it was only underwear.

https://twitter.com/...334674827128832

[LolaLei]

Renmiri1 wrote...

David Gaider ‏@davidgaider

To the Cullen thread: be thankful it was only underwear.

https://twitter.com/...334674827128832

Lol, he loves us really. :-S

Modifié par LolaLei, 22 septembre 2012 - 03:33 .

[Randy1012]

I have no romantic interest in Cullen, but I love the idea of him as a full-time companion. He's turned out to be a very interesting character, and has a natural role in the story being both a templar and someone who was present at the event that sparked the conflict. I hope this happens.

[FenrirBlackDragon]

I think Cullen would be an interesting companion, no doubt. But, as an LI? I leave that up to the team to decide that. If they write it well, I'll give it a shot. If not, I'll just hope the other male LI is the icing on my Dragon Age Cake. (The insides being the amazing plot and great gameplay of course, with most bugs worked out.)

Modifié par FenrirBlackDragon, 22 septembre 2012 - 04:11 .

[ElitePinecone]

Renmiri1 wrote...

David Gaider ‏@davidgaider

To the Cullen thread: be thankful it was only underwear.

https://twitter.com/...334674827128832

What's the context of this tweet?  Which Cullen thread?

[R2s Muse]

He means THE DA2 Cullen thread. LOL The first part of the conversation is here:

https://twitter.com/...239209112653825

*name omitted*: "Glad I'm a part of a very civil thread on the BSN no arguing just
exciteded discussions. Feel free to stop by Cullen Thread."

DG: "The Cullen thread is both baffling and vaguely concerning, like finding underwear on the sidewalk."

After some laughing and discussing on the Cullen thread, he tweeted again:

DG: "To the Cullen thread: be thankful it was only underwear. ;)"

[gonzalez.melissa53]

Ah, and here we have the bold and sometime dangerous Fangirl. A varied and adaptable breed, the Fangirl comes in all shapes and sizes. You’ll know them for the fevered, somewhat glazed look of their eyes.

She’s scented something… Look at that sudden focus. She’s on him now mates!

Look over there. Behind that rock. Is that??? Oh, Maker it’s poor Ser Cullen again. The lad is cowering and crying. He knows what’s coming bless his heart. What the poor lad doesn’t know is that tears will only whip the Fangirl into further frenzy. They tend to view them as a sign of manly sensitivity you see.
My but Cullen’s been at this long enough. The chap should know better…

OH!!!
OH!!! She got him now!!!!
Run Ser Cullen!!! Run your knickers off!!!!


(The crew runs huffing and puffing trying to keep up with that action as it plays out before them.)

We round the bend and come upon a tragic and heart wrenching scene. On the ground dear listeners lays a broken and franticly pinned Ser Cullen. We bear witness to the sheer horror and desperation in his eyes as he continues to struggle.

You know maybe he should rethink that armor must make it even harder to get away. Ah but it never helped the Arishok to get away, now has it? Oh well no matter now then is it?

Our predator sits perched on the downed preys back merrily pecking away at a laptop.
Where in the void did she keep that hidden? /sigh another mute point dear listeners…

The world of fan fiction is wider today. For better or worse.
Poor Ser Cullen…
XD

Modifié par gonzalez.melissa53, 22 septembre 2012 - 01:39 .

[ElitePinecone]

Matt Rhodes ‏@mattrhodesart
Cosplayers! Send me your "Do's and Don'ts" of costume design. I want to make a practical character design guide.

[LolaLei]

gonzalez.melissa53 wrote...

Ah, and here we have the bold and sometime dangerous Fangirl. A varied and adaptable breed, the Fangirl comes in all shapes and sizes. You’ll know them for the fevered, somewhat glazed look of their eyes.

She’s scented something… Look at that sudden focus. She’s on him now mates!

Look over there. Behind that rock. Is that??? Oh, Maker it’s poor Ser Cullen again. The lad is cowering and crying. He knows what’s coming bless his heart. What the poor lad doesn’t know is that tears will only whip the Fangirl into further frenzy. They tend to view them as a sign of manly sensitivity you see.
My but Cullen’s been at this long enough. The chap should know better…

OH!!!
OH!!! She got him now!!!!
Run Ser Cullen!!! Run your knickers off!!!!


(The crew runs huffing and puffing trying to keep up with that action as it plays out before them.)

We round the bend and come upon a tragic and heart wrenching scene. On the ground dear listeners lays a broken and franticly pinned Ser Cullen. We bear witness to the sheer horror and desperation in his eyes as he continues to struggle.

You know maybe he should rethink that armor must make it even harder to get away. Ah but it never helped the Arishok to get away, now has it? Oh well no matter now then is it?

Our predator sits perched on the downed preys back merrily pecking away at a laptop.
Where in the void did she keep that hidden? /sigh another mute point dear listeners…

The world of fan fiction is wider today. For better or worse.
Poor Ser Cullen…
XD

True story!

Modifié par LolaLei, 22 septembre 2012 - 05:34 .

[R2s Muse]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Matt Rhodes ‏@mattrhodesart
Cosplayers! Send me your "Do's and Don'ts" of costume design. I want to make a practical character design guide.

Very cool! I suppose who knows better than those who will actually wear that outfit someday. Brilliant.

[Heimdall]

leborum wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

THey have to have a "nobody suspects the ____ inquisition joke" 

As far as I can tell this is the only reason to name your game Inquistion.  I will be seriously disappointed if it isn't included.  So maybe they've lost surprise, but they've still got fear and ruthless efficiency.

I think someone's going to try to say that multiple times but get interrupted and only shortly before the final battle get the chance to finish their sentence. 

[RedWulfi]

gonzalez.melissa53 wrote...

Ah, and here we have the bold and sometime dangerous Fangirl. A varied and adaptable breed, the Fangirl comes in all shapes and sizes. You’ll know them for the fevered, somewhat glazed look of their eyes.

She’s scented something… Look at that sudden focus. She’s on him now mates!

Look over there. Behind that rock. Is that??? Oh, Maker it’s poor Ser Cullen again. The lad is cowering and crying. He knows what’s coming bless his heart. What the poor lad doesn’t know is that tears will only whip the Fangirl into further frenzy. They tend to view them as a sign of manly sensitivity you see.
My but Cullen’s been at this long enough. The chap should know better…

OH!!!
OH!!! She got him now!!!!
Run Ser Cullen!!! Run your knickers off!!!!


(The crew runs huffing and puffing trying to keep up with that action as it plays out before them.)

We round the bend and come upon a tragic and heart wrenching scene. On the ground dear listeners lays a broken and franticly pinned Ser Cullen. We bear witness to the sheer horror and desperation in his eyes as he continues to struggle.

You know maybe he should rethink that armor must make it even harder to get away. Ah but it never helped the Arishok to get away, now has it? Oh well no matter now then is it?

Our predator sits perched on the downed preys back merrily pecking away at a laptop.
Where in the void did she keep that hidden? /sigh another mute point dear listeners…

The world of fan fiction is wider today. For better or worse.
Poor Ser Cullen…
XD

Read this out to my boyfriend :')

[gonzalez.melissa53]

I'm happy you enjoyed my little story. I felt that it might help clear up some of the confusion about fangirls XD Being one myself...