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[JeffZero]

If I had to hazard a guess I would say that it's probably from a barebones-ish representation of their conversational value.

Oh, Damien beat me to it, but yeah.

[ElitePinecone]

Translating some excerpts from the article:

"Extremely conscious," replies Bioware chief Aaryn Flynn to the question of how conscious his studio is of the sometimes sharp criticism of Dragon Age 2.

 

"When we have internally set ourselves the question whether we still want to continue with the series after Dragon Age 2, the overwhelming opinion was: Oh yes, we want to, there are so many exciting stories and cool things in this world, but a few points we really need to improve. "

 

 

- Tactics are back, apparently.

 

That's not the whole article, only the first couple of pages.

[The Elder King]

No. It's just listed at the side. There is no in text explanation. My guess would be that conversations and stuff like that might still be missing.

Yeah, I think it's a possibility.

[JeffZero]

Interesting that there was ever a question over whether or not to continue on from DA2. I mean I suppose there always is, but that signifies a potentially very strong awareness of the criticisms leveled toward it both critically and over time financially.

[Chala]

I dunno about you guys, but during the last hours, the Hype train has been hitting me hard.

 

[ElitePinecone]

Where one journalist goes, fifteen journalists tag along. This'll be a fun week, and an undoubtedly irritating one once the inevitable inconsistencies even between English articles begin to pop up.

 

And, though I'm sure they want to market the game extensively to a German audience (because apparently the number of DA fans in Germany is absolutely enormous), it's not as though they'd just invite that one magazine for a huge preview. 

 

Kris Ligman definitely went along in Feb (she writes for Gamasutra and some other websites), and I'm sure there were others from the games press. 

 

Whether they were all shown the same thing, though, is another question. The article from GameStar seems to suggest they had a sit-down chat with Aaryn Flynn and a small preview session. 

[Beerfish]

I hope they realize that DA2 had some very good things in it and don't just shelve everything from that game and make this DAO version 2.

[Chewin]

Cons: so far companions appear shallow, how exciting will the building of the inquisition be?

 

That raises alarms.

 

Shallow, eh? I wonder what that's based off of.

 

Where I to make a guess, it's probably simply from combat dialog and small cut scenes during certain events. Doubt BW showed any real dialog discussions between the party members, otherwise it would--most likely--have been brought up in some capacity. So the journalist possibly judged on what little he saw and wasn't enough to impress him.

 

And so it is here you've been "hiding", Jeff. Glad to see you being active again, old friend.

[JeffZero]

Huh, I never knew about the huge German audience. But it makes sense.

[JeffZero]

Glad to see you too, Chewin. I only ever really venture into ME3's Scuttlebutt section now; occasionally I'll check out Story but it's always so negative toward what has been one of my favorite games of the last several years, ha.

Got into DA a few months ago, so here I be.

[fosca777]

the writer of the gamestar article mentioned other journalist being there. a journalist from the us asked if you can use a female voice on a a male character.

[Andraste_Reborn]

That raises alarms.

 

 

I'd be seriously worried if a review of the finished game said the companions were shallow, but I'm not sure I trust an assessment of character quality made by someone who saw a short section of an unfinished version. I dare say Morrigan or Varric might seem pretty shallow if you'd only spent half an hour with them.

[TheLastAwakening]

Glad that solas is not Dorian. I am now interested in what the Iron bull fears from his past. Expert on nothingness, is this because he no longer has any role in the Qun or was he always a vassoth. I have gained a new ally I think, I wonder and can't we to see how he reacts to my saarebas. 

 

Only 4 remain if I can count correctly.

[JeffZero]

I'd be seriously worried if a review of the finished game said the companions were shallow, but I'm not sure I trust an assessment made by someone who saw a short section of an unfinished version. I dare say Morrigan or Varric might seem pretty shallow if you'd only spent half an hour with them.

 

What I'm considering here is that it's been said the journalists were treated to a brief gameplay demo. While I'm sure BioWare would want to blend a healthy dose of as much as possible into that demo, it's entirely possible there just wasn't a whole heckuva lot going on with companions in this dungeon-esque location they were shown. If the journalist was anticipating DA2 levels of interaction then it's not surprising they might have written briefly on it. Or perhaps there's a con quota and they needed something. I dunno.

 

What I do know is that the journalist in question has posted in this very thread once, so maybe they'll offer some insight.

 

Personally, I'm not really going to be terribly irked if Origins-level interaction while on the field returns. So long as we're not looking at ME2 levels, I'm satisfied. We know the majority of big conversation bits will take place back at the headquarters (read: camp) this time, so yeah.

[Blankeflos]

A Bioware game with shallow companions? Yeah sure.

[JeffZero]

A Bioware game with shallow companions? Yeah sure.

 

Frankly, they've received entirely too many accolades over recent games' handling of party member characterization to go back to ME1's relative shallowness (IMO, IMO) or ME2's absence of much meaningful input while on the field.

[MilaBanilla]

Holy crap. I just woke up and there are new pics of the Solas and Dragons 

Nice!

(This is where I sort-of regret taking French instead German during my High School years  )

[JeffZero]

Holy crap. I just woke up and there are new pics of the Solas and Dragons 

Nice!

(This is where I sort-of regret taking French instead German during my High School years  )

 

I just chose French as my language to learn for the remainder of my anthropology undergrad. Reasons involved lots of travel plans to Europe for fieldwork. 

 

Should have chosen German. If I'd known they were such big Dragon Age nuts surely I would have.

[ElitePinecone]

Glad that solas is not Dorian. I am now interested in what the Iron bull fears from his past. Expert on nothingness, is this because he no longer has any role in the Qun or was he always a vassoth. I have gained a new ally I think, I wonder and can't we to see how he reacts to my saarebas. 

 

Only 4 remain if I can count correctly.

 

It's Solas who is an expert on nothingness, and 'nothingness' is how The Fade is rendered in German. 

[ElitePinecone]

Bioware's PR person:

 

Andrew Wong ‏@BioWong  Mar 14

E3 meetings are in full force.

[TheLastAwakening]

A Bioware game with shallow companions? Yeah sure.

 

My guess, someone turned off a great deal of the banter in the coding for this build. Obviously resulting in shock, the only thing the journalist could use to described this shock and lack of banter was shallow companions.

 

I wouldn't make more of it, perhaps someone will turn on the party banter switch for the next preview.

[JeffZero]

My guess, someone turned off a great deal of the banter in the coding for this build. Obviously resulting in shock, the only thing the journalist could use to described this shock and lack of banter was shallow companions.

 

I wouldn't make more of it, perhaps someone will turn on the party banter switch for the next preview.

 

That'd be... kinda odd. Wouldn't they want to showcase everything they can? But then, I suppose the banter could well have spoiled major stuff.

[TKavatar]

Holy crap. I just woke up and there are new pics of the Solas and Dragons 
Nice!

(This is where I sort-of regret taking French instead German during my High School years  )

Ha, I lived in Germany for some time but never made an attempt to learn the language properly, and what I do know has faded over the years.

I really should have taken those language classes

[TheLastAwakening]

It's Solas who is an expert on nothingness, and 'nothingness' is how The Fade is rendered in German. 

Thanks for clearing that up but making me sad too

[the_Green_Dragon]

A Bioware game with shallow companions? Yeah sure.

the german writer is a big fanboy of DA:O and hates DA2

because of that Varric and Cassandra are "shallow"