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[DarthPig]

kww75 wrote...


5. Value for money, if you charge a full price game, I expect the story to take over 80+ hours to complete!

I don't necessarily disagree, but a game doesn't need to be 80+ hours to be worth the full retail price, Shadow of the Colossus was maybe fifteen hours, tops. Worth every damn penny. Quality is what I want to see out of DA:I, regardless of the length of the game.

[Johnny Shepard]

DarthPig wrote...

kww75 wrote...


5. Value for money, if you charge a full price game, I expect the story to take over 80+ hours to complete!

I don't necessarily disagree, but a game doesn't need to be 80+ hours to be worth the full retail price, Shadow of the Colossus was maybe fifteen hours, tops. Worth every damn penny. Quality is what I want to see out of DA:I, regardless of the length of the game.

It depends on how you play. For me, DA:O took over 140h but I klnow people who finnished it in 40h or even 12h (or so they say) even if I can't understand how.

[DarthPig]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

DarthPig wrote...

kww75 wrote...


5. Value for money, if you charge a full price game, I expect the story to take over 80+ hours to complete!

I don't necessarily disagree, but a game doesn't need to be 80+ hours to be worth the full retail price, Shadow of the Colossus was maybe fifteen hours, tops. Worth every damn penny. Quality is what I want to see out of DA:I, regardless of the length of the game.

It depends on how you play. For me, DA:O took over 140h but I klnow people who finnished it in 40h or even 12h (or so they say) even if I can't understand how.

I take my time when I play games. Origins took me 80 hours. But a game doesn't need to be 80 hours to be worth full retail price, is all I'm saying. Origins would have been worth it at 40 hours, 20 hours, whatever. Because it was a great experience.

Much like Shadow of the Colossus or Beyond Good and Evil, or Jade Empire, all games that you can complete in under 20 hours, even if you take your time.

I would prefer the game be amazing over the game being long just for the sake of being long. If BioWare can achieve both(something they've done before) then that would just be icing on the cake.

TL;DR quality over quantity for Dragon Age Inquisition.

Modifié par DarthPig, 23 janvier 2013 - 12:19 .

[nicethugbert]

If you're going to have character building then it only makes sense to have a character builder. Simple and effective works great. Here is an example from ME3: http://narida.pytalh...man/BAAAA//////

[JaegerBane]

Gebert wrote...
5. Consistency between gameplay and lore
[/b]Stuff like how Demons are supposed to be these monstrous and horrifying creatures, but my Warden/Hawke still slays hundreds of them during their adventure. All the little details that makes the game internally consistent.

Yes and no.

Being monstrous and horrifying doesn't necessarily mean that every encounter with them has to take x amount of time and most be at least Y difficult - at the end of the day they intoduced the concept of varying types of Demon for a very good reason, so that had a diverse array of enemies.

I take your point on consistency, though - while I'm willing to overlook some deviation, flat contradictions just cause the game to come across as shoddy. When the codex specifically states teleportation is impossible, it looks a bit ridiculous when any two-bit apostate and his dog can do it. When Massive Plate Armour is so heavy you need to built like King Leonidas just to move around in it, it shouldn't be worn by sky-diving henchman. When I'm throwing lightning bolts and fireballs all over the street dealing with bandits, I shouldn't be calmly approached by an unassuming Templar asking whether I've seen any apostates.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 23 janvier 2013 - 06:06 .

[beank]

My top 5: (Though the game is probably about 70% done and it doesnt mater anymore)

1. Different Races/Backgrounds. The single background from DA2 made for a better character, but it wasn't my character.... I would gladly sacrifice voice acting for this.

2. Tactical combat. DAO was great. It was set up (most of the time) where you could see all of the enemies in an area and plan accordingly. DA2 you see 5 guys, kill them, and then 6 more would pop out of nowhere.... You dont have to make it exactly like DAO, just dont make it like DA2....

3. No multiplayer. Just jump off the band wagon before its too late.... If you want people to keep playing the game, make it have replay value with branching story, customization, and well crafted DLC.... Contrary to popular belief, not every game needs a multiplayer.

4. Choices and Consequences. Get rid of the color coded morality choice system so that we can decide what is good and bad.... then make those choices mean something. Neither game has been particularly good at this. DAO had a better choice system and the consequences were there, but limited mostly to who your final army was.... DA2 added the color morality system, but it felt like the choices had bigger implications....

5. With all of the previous points... Go BIG or go home.... Dont hedge your bets, dont hold back. Give us everything you got. I can forgive a game for being subpar if I see that they stuck to their guns and gave me everything they said and more. What make a game truly bad to me is when I see that the developers had good ideas, but neglected them because they though people might not like them.

[Da1AnOnlyCrazy]

#1. Ogren and Varric Meet that will make my day
#2. better story like in DA:O
#3. more party banter
#4. Choice's that matter
#5. bring back the skill tree from DA:O (pickpocket etc.)

[ZeroCrewX]

My 2 cents :

- Quality writing like in DAO
- No milking the name this time
- More customization

And probably the most important right after Story is --- Give us a damn toolset this time. At least that way if god forbid the game ends up as bad as DA2 was, we can fix it ourselves to a degree.

[Rodulv]

 More realistic looking weapons and armor( a lot of the stuff in DA look ridicolous espically in the second game)  


 

Modifié par Rodulv, 24 janvier 2013 - 12:04 .

[DarthPig]

Cloaks. Awesome Game of Thrones cloaks. Lack of them in Skyrim was disappointing, would love to see BioWare picking up the slack when it comes to awesome Game of Thrones cloaks.

[Purple_Lobster23]

In Dragon Age: Origins, I really felt as if I had a say in what was happening in the game. I didn't just have two choices of dialogue, I could have up to around six. I didn't feel constricted and I could choose a dialogue choice that actually suited my character. I actually had to think about what I would say whereas in DA2 and Mass Effect, I sometimes felt as if the dialogue wheel constricted my choices. It made me feel as if choosing a dialogue choice was black and white but in Origins, I could choose what I, myself, would actually say in that particular situation. I would love if they ditched the dialogue wheel in Inquisition and and used the same dialogue choice/conversation system used in Origins. Now, you're probably thinking "They can't do that, it's too much voice acting for the protagonist". Okay, then don't have a voice actor for the protagonist. It didn't bother me in Origins and it wouldn't bother me in DA3 but of course, that is merely my opinion. 

Keep the Dragon Age lore. I felt as if DA2 was a step in the direction of Mass Effect. Why? I didn't think that was necessary. Can't Dragon Age just be it's own game series? I'm not saying Dragon Age 2 was a mirror image of Mass Effect because it wasn't but it certainly didn't evole from it's predecessor, Origins. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the Mass Effect series (it's one of my favourite game series out there) but I felt that as the series progressed, it became more linear. Now, Dragon Age Origins was anything but linear. There was side quest after side quest and it was a fantastic RPG. I felt as if DA2 lost some of that. Dragon Age 2 is a good game. Good. Although, in my opinion, it wasn't the calibre of Origins. Go back over the last two games and focus on what you did really well.

Character development. The characters in Origins were superb. They developed over the course of the game and I came to genuinely care for them. The banter that occurred on quests was fantastic and the humour between characters was great. I really got to see how characters felt about each other, not just how they felt about me. Everything about characters in Origins was just dealt with fantastically. Now, it probably sounds like I'm absolutely ripping on Dragon Age 2, I'm not but trust me, this will all have meaning soon. I'm not saying that the characters in DA2 were crap, they weren't. But they just lacked the same...enthusiasm as the characters in Origins. They tended to annoy me and it wasn't the sort of annoyance that was humourous; it was the annoyance that severely bugged you. Make the characters in DA3 mean something. Spend quality time on their writing because they are the people that we have to 'put up with' throughout the game. If you can't bond to any of the characters, it dampens the experience for you.

Choices. Make them mean something. Now, this is an important one. If you're going to say that a game is heavily based on choice, make sure it actually is before you say that. I want to say after making a choice in DA3, 'wow, that was brutal'. I don't want to think 'What was the point of that if it didn't make any difference on the outcome of the game?' Here I go again with the comparison. In Mass Effect 2 when you have to choose to destroy the Collector Base or keep the information, it made absolutely no difference in Mass Effect 3. Seriously? In an RPG, every person should have a different experience. Maybe some people have a similar experience with some variations but it shouldn't be identical. I want my choices to actually matter. You know what game handled choice well? The Walking Dead. Yes, it's a completely different game than Dragon Age but damn, it did choice well. After many choices, I was brought to tears and genuinely questioned my morals. I thought that some of the choices were brutal and even though some of them were harsh, they mattered. So basically, make the choices in DA3 matter. Fair enough if it doesn't tie up all of the loose ends in Origins and DA2 but make the choices that I have to make in DA3 mean something.

Quality of the story. Games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect are heavily based on the quality of the story and the characters. It's what Bioware is known for. But in DA2, the story didn't draw me in. In Origins, you were facing the archdemon. The head of all of the darkpawn, the thing that only Grey Wardens can kill. You as the main character are pivotal to the story. Without you or any of the other Grey Wardens, Ferelden would be doomed. I mattered, my character mattered. But in DA2, the bad guy just wasn't as epic. The storyline just wasn't as captivating. Again, that's my opinion. Yes, the combat in DA2 was vastly improved. It was quicker and more fluid and that's great! But if at the cost of that, the storyline loses itself, I honestly don't think it's worth it. The combat in Origins wasn't perfect but it wasn't horrible and the story was brilliant. The combat in DA2 was vastly improved but the story and characters were mediocre compared to Origins. So yes, make the combat in DA3: Inquisitions great if possible but don't forget about the storyline and the characters. They're what makes the game memorable.

One last thing. Co-op. I've heard people asking for it but in my opinion, Dragon Age really doesn't need it. Yes, it was a nice add-on in Mass Effect 3 but was it necessary? Definitely not. Don't focus on Co-op in Inquisition, focus on the game itself and don't rush the game. I would gladly wait another six months or even more for a fantastic, memorable game. 

Well, that's my five cents. 

Modifié par Purple_Lobster23, 24 janvier 2013 - 11:25 .

[Nabirye]

1- Varric as LI - HOW COULD YOU!!! DENY US THAT CHESTHAIR WAS UNFORGIVABLE!!
2- NO NO NO, recicled backgrounds. Full maps like DA:O or better! not less!
3- Party Banter / Character Improvement. Loved the interaction in DA2 But.. I missed some of the things the companions had in DA:O
4- Loved the animated Hero, I loved when my char could actually TALK and was given a voice,  instead of giving the same looks over and over. I wish I could choose the race thou...
5- I wish I could see all the old companions again, it would be priceless and I quote:

Da1AnOnlyCrazy wrote...
#1. Ogren and Varric Meet that will make my day

That's all

[Ambivalent]

1. Choices that shapes the story and different endings(No forced "Save the world/Feralden/Galaxy" this time... It gets old, actually it already got old after KOTOR 1)
2. A more "grey" storyline just like ME 2 and 3.(The fairytale like "be a hero and save the..." storline got old and feels unreal. Please design more Loghain like NPC's and more Fallout New Vegas like factions... Templar vs Mage didn't really hold my interest even in DA:O yet you concentrated on that even more in sequel. Templars are old school guys that love to control people while mages are revolutionarists... I mean you created so many wonderful and secretive characters like illusive man, bastila, revan, leliana, morrigan and is this best you can do? I disagree)
3. Lots of customisation and mod support(From races to places, quests to endings, character creation to character abilities...)
4. Combat system that makes sense unlike DA 2 and isn't as dull as DA:O(Storm of the century anyone? -.-)
5. Jennifer Hale as female PC voice actress.

[DarthPig]

Inside_Joke wrote...

Just one.

Musical Number

YES!!!!!

[dpMeggers]

Requests which have no doubt been made before. I can't say that these are my top 5, more like 5 things I would like to see.

1. Some returning characters as companions.
I'm not requesting that EVERYONE who was once in a DA game must come back as a companion. Having said that I feel like there are a few characters who have seen some things that would make for interesting companions. Cullen, who has witnessed first hand the Uldred revolt and the mess that was the Kirkwall Gallows, would definitely have some interesting things to say to an Inquisitor. Another possibilty would be one or more of the characters from Asunder, the mage Rhys, the rebel templar Evangeline or the spirit/demon/thing Cole because they were there when the mage rebellion really began. (I'd also like to see Tevinter-trained Feynriel as a companion but there's the potential for him to be Tranquil/posessed so I'd rather not open that particular can of worms...). Cameos are cool too.

2. Specializations matter.
Let us say that I am playing a character who is a blood mage or a reaver or an assassin. Blood magic is (heavily) frowned upon in most of Thedas, and is a reason for a Templar to kill a mage, so I'd like for this to be brought up somehow, maybe by being confronted by Templars or having a companion mention it. A reaver had to drink ritually prepared dragon blood. Maybe a companion can bring this up in conversation 'Wasn't that gross?' The assassins are supposed to be masters of spotting vulnerabilities. So maybe in a conversation where my character is being challenged by goons I can have the option to point out that 'I can take you all down single handed and this is exactly how I would do it' and have them run away instead of a fight. Implementing this will likely mean that we can only choose one specialization per character and I'm ok with that.

3. Weapon use that matches the animation/description.
Right, so this is a fairly minor thing, but it's something that happens in both DA:O and DA2 and I always found it a bit...odd.

In both games the character can use a weapon, that when a particular animation is triggered, does something kind of...nonsensical. Examples include: the backstabbing/Ogre-face stabbing animation with a mace in Origins or the Twin Fangs/Assassinate animations using weapons like Berat's Revenge/Jarvia's Shank or the Hawke's Key in 2. In both cases you have a character making a stabbing motion with what is a blunt-tipped weapon. It just looks weird. The animations were pretty awesome looking and I like the  variety of unique dagger looks in DA2 , with daggers like Finesse, the Coterie Shiv and Shard of the Fallen along with the standard skins, but I'd like that the way the weapon looks fit the way the weapon was used.

In the same way, warriors in DA2 can carry 2-handed weapons but if you watch the animations for Carver, Fenris or Hawke, part of the animation of a standard hit has them use their massive 2-handed weapon with...one hand. Which again, strikes me as weird looking.

So I guess this is just a request to polish weapon animations.

4. Fetch quests that feel like sidequests.
I don't object to fetch quests, however I feel that there is a way that they can be done well and there is a way that they can be done less well. Well done examples from DA:O and DA2 include: the Chanter's board/ Merchant's guild type quests, in which you go to a quest board, find a quest that says 'we want x many of this thing', or 'so and so wants his thing which was stolen back' and you go and collect the things and return it for coin. I like these because a) you know who wants the thing and you know why they want the thing. Less well done were the quests in DA2 during which you came across a random item (or dead body!?!) in your travels and knew exactly who would want it and where to return it to them. Overall I felt that these quests just felt forced. And the dead body ones were weird.

5. Useful Companion Gifts.
Note that this only applies to the friendship path.
Something I liked about the implementation of gifts in DA2 was that they were rare and clearly only for one individual, like the Shield of the Knight Herself, the Blade of Mercy or the Rivaini Fertility Talismen. However, unlike the Shield for Aveline, which is a useful mid-game item, by the time you are even able to acquire either the Blade of Mercy for Fenris or the Talismen for Isabela, they are going to be outclassed by the items these characters already have equipped, which I found to be disappointing. So I'd like for the companion gifts to be useful to the characters. I don't mind if eventually I come across a more useful item for my companions, but I'd like if they are able to use the gifts for a time.

[n2nw]

1.  Kilts
2.  Male harems
3.  the Hokey Pokey
4.  zombie kittens
5.  peanuts (along with an option to say, "anybody want a peanut"?)

Just having a little fun.  I'm always late to the party and I fear the devs probably aren't checking this thread anymore, but in case they are, I guess I should be serious.  What I *really* would like to see in DAO3 is:

1.  Better relationships with friends and lovers.  DAO was a step in the right direction but DA2 took a step back.  I had wanted Mass Effect to take lessons from DA but it seemed that worked in reverse.  I do give props to DA2 for finally realizing that the protagonist needs a little love through the rough spots (the Mom issue), though it really was a little love...it was still there.  Nice touch.  But you spend a good deal of time with these people.  It would be nice to get to know them deeply - more like we did in DAO.  I'd like to give comfort and receive it, poke fun and receive it, and ask about feelings and deep issues and be asked in return.

2.  Spontaneous talks in different locations.  I absolutely HATE having to have talks in one spot.  Though it's irritating to get surprised with a conversation and not be able to save before-hand, I much prefer that to the always predictable, immersion breaking "oh, I want to talk to so-and-so - quick!  Let's run to THE spot!"  Blech.  When I want to talk to my friends, we don't drop what we're doing and run to their house to talk about it.  Please let's be more flexible in #3.

3.  Fun with LIs.  All work and no play makes PC a dull girl.  DAO had a cute little thing where you could catch a smooch on the run or a little more in the camp.  DA2 cut out the extra-curricular activities.  BIG bummer. I'd like to see it return and have it mixed up a bit by adding a few different options (for on the go as well as in the camp/home).   And if you run into a Fenris situation, there is still so much that could be done with that.  Talk about your angsty exchanges!  The possibilities!  I mean, really, we're wading in death and the threat of destruction...hanky panky is a great diversion and stress buster.  Just sayin.

4.  Home is where the heart is.  Thank you DA2 for giving me a place to call home and store those things that I just can't bear to throw away or sell.  Now, in the way of Skyrim, could you give me some trophy racks/display cases to show off some of them?  I wouldn't complain if you let me decorate my whole house from furnishings to carpeting, but I'd be happy with the aforementioned racks and cases.  Oh, and I liked the change of clothing idea (at your house in DA2), but in DA3, could it be a little more sexy? A little more form fitting and a slight show of cleavage would be nice.  I'm regularly thumping bad guys and my figure will never be this hawt again, ya know.  May as well show it off while I can.

5.  A DAO type of epilogue (but with the option for a truly happy ending if I play my cards right).   What can I say?  I like puppies and rainbows.  You fight death and terrible things the whole game so you can have a happy ending.  Real life can suck enough and I don't care if the game can have a sucky or wishy-washy ending, so long as I can have the Fairy Princess one.  I quite liked the ending of DAO with Alistair and the female noble, though I'd like to lose the whole "catch" thing.  Seriously lose it.  And I loved talking to all of my companions after the ending in DAO.  That was the first time I'd been able to do that in a game and it was just AWESOME.  I was so sad that didn't happen in #2.  Please, please bring it back in #3!


And if you could still throw in male harems, that would be just peachy.  Thanks.

Oh, and I mean male harems for the protagonist (I play as a female, so definitely for the female protagonist).  I can just see the evil devs and writers now, wringing their hands and cackling fiendishly as they grant my wish.....for npcs and male protagonists.  Then when I post here in anger they would widen their eyes innocently and post back "but n2nw, you didn't say for the female pc.  We put male harems in everywhere just to please you and you still aren't happy.  You're so mean to us and all we did was what you asked!"  Yeah, I know how they are.  So here it is writing.  So there.    (For the humor-impaired or those who just don't get me....I'm totally teasing...at least, about the devs and writers being evil.  Well, some of them.  I'm very serious about the male harems.)

Modifié par n2nw, 25 janvier 2013 - 01:08 .

[animedreamer]

 Dwarven Female Party member who is CUTE!!!! just like the one i made back in origins. They're are cute Dwarven lasses out there you know!

[Felya87]

1)playable races.

2)if not playable races, half breed PC.(still better playable races)

3)Elf and Dwarf. Elf and Dwarf. I'm tired of Mage Templar. is a fantasy setting, we have already explored that part too much in DA2. there are better thing to see. like a conquist of a new land for the Dalish, or new thaig in the Deep Roads who survived at the Darkspawn. or the Kossith. as PC and for the story. an actual invasion of the Qun would be great.

4)Gray Warden.

5)destroy once and for all the Chantry if there isn't a recognization af the Elf in the Chant of Light. Elf deserve better.

[anIrishman]

1) Companions: have Morrigan back as a companion. Add Cullen into the group as one too. At least more than a cameo from Leliana. Other returning characters in the roles of companions/NPCs/cameos.

2) Customization: jumping on the bandwagon here. Give us actual variation over which armour we equip, much in the style of DA:O... no more set outfits for your companions either. Skill trees. Bring back the pick-a-race feature.

3) Choices that matter: please, please at least allow our choices from this game to interconnect with and impact the narrative in a manner that is both unexpected but engaging. More grey areas!! No more of this "Good Dialogue option" "Bad Dialogue option" nonsense. Also put in character relevant interactions, much like how in DA:O if Leliana or Wynne is on your team and you defile the urn of sacred ashes they attack you.

4) Quality Storytelling: bring back the calibre of DA:O the oringinal game that people loved. Stop trying to be more like Mass Effect. Listen to the fans! We want an RPG not a hack n slash. Make the storyline a long one! With heaps of diverse and interesting side quests (no more fetch missions). Also include more party banter. Try not to rehash any of your maps as well, it became appaulingly obvious in DA:2. (I'm not trying to bash on the game! Just want you to - like nearly all fans - return to your roots is all!)

5) No mulitplayer: There is a very, very, very good reason ME:1, ME:2 and DA:O stood on their own legs without multiplayer and were still critically acclaimed. We want the quality of our games back. Not additional features that were never important beforehand. Get off this bandwagon. Games do not require multiplayer!!

[die-yng]

What I really want, but totally forgot in my premier post in this thread is modifiability.

DAO was and is a fantastic game for modders, I can't even count the numbers of mods I apply to my DAO games, with different sets of mods for different characters (due to modmanager) and all.
And this is what's keeping the game alive for me and for a lot of others.

Heck, the same can even still be sad about Baldur's Gate I and II.

Sadly Awakenings already veered from this path and DA 2 was no different. Reducing modding to basically just changing visual aspects of the game (which is fine in itself, but could be so much more).

If you want another epic milestone in BW history, make DA3 easy to mod again, it will keep the game interesting and make it easier to sell in the future and is also a motivation for buying DLC's.

Never underestimate the positive effects if the gamers can fix problems for themselves or change their game to fit their personal preferences.

[Sentinel01]

1. Visiting places rarely mentioned such as Rivain or maybe even the Qunari homeland
2. Unique specilizations, more involved and varying abilities
3. Varied terrain
4. Companion customization
5. Equipment customization 

[Zered]

1 More realistic looking weapons and armor! This! No more ugly gigantic cleaver-swords taken out from WoW.
2 Different Elves - those i DA were butt ugly.
3 No dialogue wheel - but I guess this is a lost case at this point. So If were stuck with this i'd like more dialogue controll.
4 Companion armor changes. This worked well in DA1. DA2 idea was bad.
5 Make the characters background significant! Make people remark and comment on this. Make them treat you differently if you're nobility or if you're a renegade slave from Tevinter. This has a lot of great potential.

Modifié par michalooo, 26 janvier 2013 - 01:28 .

[Taveira]

1. Romance just like DAO. Really Bioware turning almost every character available as LI and bissexual was terrible, it just felt like a dating simulator. I miss the old DAO style, 9 companions 2 straight and 2 bissexual, simple as that.

2. A better combat system, I really loved the tactic from DAO and really loved the Mage combat system from DA II. A fusion would be more than welcome. Aside the jump and hit with a goddamn two handed sword.

3. Origins! Please Biwoare stop turning DA into ME, give us Origins just like in DAO. It was amazing to play all the origins and genders, please bring this feature back!

4. A good OST!

5. No wheel! Give us the good and old conversation system!

[Leohast]

1 - cameo of hawke and/or the warden
2 - plot
3 -female Kossith companion (with romance maybe)
4 -more costumization
5 -deep envioremente

Modifié par Leohast, 26 janvier 2013 - 04:35 .

[kalasaurus]

1. In depth character relationships/ romances. Being able to talk to companions at any time, instead of twice every three years when they have an arrow over their heads.
2. More funny party banter. It's one of the highlights of DA: O and DA2.
3. If the Qunari return, please make them look like Sten again. I really hated their new appearance with horns :/
4. More outfit customization
5. A return of Alistair, Morrigan, and the Grey Warden