infraredman wrote...
Most Definitely Sane wrote...
infraredman wrote...
Most Definitely Sane wrote...
infraredman wrote...
DreGregoire wrote...
Hopefully more than one voice for male and one voice for female. Ideally I would love the choice of at least three different voices. I'm not really expecting it though, it would just be nice.
I couldn't stomach female Hawke's voice, it just didn't sound right to me.
Wow you are considerate "I don't like playing as a female so I don't think females should have more voice options, but I like playing as a male so there should be more male voice options."
Let me guess, you think there being "more men playing games" justify's this suggestion to make a franchise promoting equality to start promoting inequalitiy? I don't care I think it's a sexist viewpoint.
Why am I even responding, I'm sure I'm just going to get flamed for responding...But I think bioware should know that fans out there disagree with the attitude that has slowly been "flooding the entertainment industry". Though due to movies like Hungar Games making tons of money I have no idea why other than people like Rush Limbaugh having hissy fits about feminists being ****s or some other ridiculous hatred like that.
That wasn't what she/he meant.
She/he was saying "I hope male and females have more than one voice."
Don't jump down people's throats like that.
"Hopefully more than one voice for male and one voice for female." In the english language according to proper grammer that means more than one voice for male and only one for for female. If they had said "hopefully more than one voice for male and female" than they would have ment what you thought they ment.
It's astounding that you're trying to discredit my argument by arguing against proper english, but I am not surprised because if you even make a mention about sexism then people think your femin@zi and over the line. Also femin@zi is a term given to us by Rush Limbaugh himself who manages 70 sexist smears against a single woman he disagrees with over 1 show. But Rush Limbaugh can go on all day and make money off of these hateful remarks, and I make a simple comment defending equality in a game and I get jumped on no matter what. It has happened to me before when responding to much more explicit comments geared towards femshep mostly. Also Merril, Jeniffer Hepler, Ashley's voice actress and Miranda have been the target of comments that I have disagreed with and recieved flame for being "uptight" by dare speaking against sexism.
Wrong is wrong, and I depend on proper english to understand what people are saying. So yes I stand by my comment. And I'll "jump" as much as I like, and you might think it extreme but I think a well written argument supporting human rights deserves less flame than hate speech even if many people seem to dissagree. <_<
Um...what?
I never said anything about not supporting women's rights or not supporting proper English.
And frankly, this is coming from a feminist, you are over the line. You are comparing me to Rush Limbaugh, and you're not even using proper English and proper grammar in your argument. Not only do I think your argument is poorly written, I also think you are being very rude.
Proper English or not, I understood what she/he was saying.
I feel that everyone else would agree with me when I say that you are overreacting.
And I believe this is off-topic, so please refrain from continuing this.
I think you are being rude. Even more so than myself. And how is saying that most people would agree with you not putting words in other peoples mouths? My comment was a reaction to how on this site you can make a comment defending equality and get flamed even by supposed feminists as yourself. My comments are not rude. They are tame--I simply dissagree with you. What is it about people thinking if you disagree that means you are rude? It's ridiculous that this much effort is spent on how horrible of a person I am for thinking someone was being sexist and being mistaken even though the persons wording suggested they were being sexist. I was reacting to this, which was not putting words in their mouth. It is what their wording suggested. In fact I am rude for merely pointing out the use of grammer that led me to believe they were being sexist. I use common language on a website and I'm giving a poor argument. The use of the word "and" is the same in common language and proper english. I apologize for saying proper english, I just didn't want to say "english" because I thought it too rude to suggest they couldn't speak their own language and I hate it when people do that. I should have said common english. Then perhaps I wouldn't have given you more reason to hack and slice at me.
Also I wasn't comparing you to Rush Limbaugh. I said "people". That's not you that's a general statement about people. My point was how people can attack women on this site like what happened to Hepler and it's slow moving for anyone to say anything against these attacks. Then I make a comment against what I thought was an unfair suggestion and within seconds I am refuted. This time I was wrong (it's the first time I read the comment wrong in this sort of situation) but most other times I am not and I am still attacked. I dare you to go on the site and do it yourself and you will see. Maybe you'll spend less time suggesting someone who was mistaken is "going over the line". If I wasn't mistaken I don't think you would have believed I was going over the line. Would you have? If this person said what I though they did?
Also everyone else is managing to stay on topic so I think we are ok.
Did you even
read your original post?
Most people who read that can infer that this person, who is using a FemHawke avatar, is talking about multiple voices for both sexes. It seems to me that you read only one sentence that this person wrote. It is very easy to understand what they were saying, however it seems to have gone right over your head.
It is possible to point out sexism without being rude.
Many websites do it.
People complaining about fanservice can do it.
You are being rude. I am merely defending this person and now myself.
And the reason why people think it is rude when you disagree, is because you're
being rude when you disagree. It is possible to disagree with someone in a civil manner.
You did indeed put words into this person's mouth by accusing them of sexism for making an innocent comment. Do not pretend you didn't.
You accuse me of discrediting you by claiming that I believe you are a "femin@zi." Then, you immediately talk about how Rush Limbaugh calls women "femin@zis." I am interpreting that as a comparison. If I am incorrect in your meaning, then tell me how this is different from your interpretation of an innocent comment as "sexist."
Not to mention that you have just said that I am a supposed feminist.
I still believe we are digressing this topic, so if you really want to continue this, I would prefer it if you message me.
Thank you, and have a good day.