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[Volus Warlord]

AresKeith wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

ME isn't on topic. If you want to discuss that then feel free to go over to those forums.

^^

Fine. 

So, about F/F romances in DA:I...

I dunno, I probably won't know they exist unless I get beat with them like I was in ME3

Darn it.

How am I supposed to discuss anything with any substance (as opposed to "I would like X") without tie-ins?

[The Uncanny]

Volus Warlord wrote...

How am I supposed to discuss anything with any substance (as opposed to "I would like X") without tie-ins?

Perhaps you should try starting a new thread. What with this being an 'I would like X' one.

[Gwydden]

I don't think there's anything wrong with making references to other games to help the current discussion... but I don't want to get on the bad side of anyone here so that's all I'll say about it.

As for what would I like for romance options in DAI...

Surprise me.

[wolfhowwl]

Hopefully it will be the same thing I want to see in the women love interests for DAI's male protagonist.

[The Uncanny]

Gwydden wrote...

I don't think there's anything wrong with making references to other games to help the current discussion... but I don't want to get on the bad side of anyone here so that's all I'll say about it.

As for what would I like for romance options in DAI...

Surprise me.

Not in moderation. But threads have been locked for less.

And I think that's a pretty good answer. Something original enough to be surprising would be refreshing.

[kaymarierose]

Can Franky Doyle/Nicole da Silva be a DA:I love interest? Uncanny, I love your gif of her.

Ahem, anyway...Cassandra...again...yep.

Modifié par kaymarierose, 09 octobre 2013 - 11:56 .

[The Uncanny]

kaymarierose wrote...

Can Franky Doyle/Nicole da Silva be a DA:I love interest? Uncanny, I love your gif of her.

The Uncanny approves +10 

[jncicesp]

The only person I really ever remember Mentioning who they like In dragon age Is Aveline, Who I did have a romance with...she just didnt realize it.
But who cares cause Cassandra is better in anyway, anyway

[Angrywolves]

We hope she is
Of course some players have speculated Cassandra won't be romancible, that she'll be like Aveline.
I use to think that might happen, Gaider is such a mercurial person, but with his recent spirited defense of romances, I doubt he would do that.

[Vapaa]

Angrywolves wrote...

I use to think that might happen, Gaider is such a mercurial person, but with his recent spirited defense of romances, I doubt he would do that.

I just think that Gaider won't go out of his way to make Cass (or Varric, or Cullen for that matter) romanceable if he feels it wouldn't work

The DA team isn't the ME tealm who gives romances options to the loudest fans

[Chashan]

Vapaä wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

I use to think that might happen, Gaider is such a mercurial person, but with his recent spirited defense of romances, I doubt he would do that.

I just think that Gaider won't go out of his way to make Cass (or Varric, or Cullen for that matter) romanceable if he feels it wouldn't work

The DA team isn't the ME tealm who gives romances options to the loudest fans

One has to remember the beyond-adorkable bridging of Aveline with Donnic, though.

That one single kiss for my femme-Hawke, d'awww.

Wouldn't terribly mind something similar for Cass' should that be the 'most' that comes to pass.

[grumpyboobyhead]

Well I think that one or the other of human picks have been made already, either warrior or a mage however I'd like to see the romance spark once the protagonist just had a revelation of circumstances which shift the dynamic of the current atmosphere whereas the player sees no choice but to go and be mad or spiritual in the said setting to ignite a romance.
Or for a darker tone the player has had a tyrant moment and dictates which of his companions should be wed to him/her.
Or number 3, it's just a fling out of the blue and they don't think about it too seriously until the very end where the player just goes and sets an emotional and serious farewell before entering martyrdom/sainthood, where he's seen either entering in the hereafter or just goes on pilgrimage.

Edit: forgot to add goes on pilgrimage with her & in hereafter scenario I'd like to add it wouldn't be bad to see your love interest go look at the sky with a cowl on her and you see she's with child also on pilgrimage or whatever said interest is interested in.

Modifié par grumpyboobyhead, 11 octobre 2013 - 06:33 .

[zMataxa]

The Uncanny wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

I hope Sera(or whatever the elf in that one tavern concept art is named) is available, she looks fun. We haven't really had a "fun" LI.

I think there is something to that. Even someone like Izzy, who is supposed to be defined by hedonism, brings a lot of baggage with her. It's a pity she didn't have a companion quest perhaps akin to 'The Long Road' by which I mean light on combat but heavy on incident to give you some idea of the glorious chaos which a night on the town with Isabela would involve.

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As the brits say "Spot on" - It twas a pity.

[zMataxa]

The Uncanny wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Leliana is fun, no?

I agree. But there is still a tragic backstory.

I just think it would be really hard to make a character whose raison d'être is being 'fun' feel three dimensional without including an element which someone is going to choose to feel detracts from them being 'fun'.

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Uncanny, I am curious - what do you think would be a good recipe for companion characters in Bioware's games - given the impossibility (my wording) of pleasing everyone?
I ask from the point of view that I deeply share your appreciation for consequential 3D characters, and I find the f/f interactions much more satisfying.

Modifié par zMataxa, 11 octobre 2013 - 07:15 .

[CARL_DF90]

When it comes to romances in general my only concerns are that they are handled in a mature fashion, evolve in a natural way, and don't look, feel, and/or sound forced.

[Angrywolves]

Read Fran Drescher's biography .
I gained a lot of respect for her once I learned what she's been through .
I admit being tired of tragic backstories when it leads to some psychologically damaged characters that are party members.
Would like mentally stable party members after the ones we had in DA2.

[zMataxa]

Angrywolves wrote...
Would like mentally stable party members after the ones we had in DA2.

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Aveline and Isabella weren't mentally stable?
Isabella was wild, a wanderer and a pirate - but I wouldn't say mentally unstable.
If you make all companions  more mentally stable than Aveline - then I'm gonna lose interest playing.
I'm fine with a Traynor (ME3) thrown in - but please don't make em all like that.

[Angrywolves]

I meant Fenris, Anders, and Merril..
We assume Avaline is stable.
She acted stable.
However she did see her husband die, and that's not easy to dismiss .
As for Isabela, I wonder if she was abused in the past and if so, if that influenced her behavior .
So certain characters may not have been as stable as you think.

[zMataxa]

Angrywolves wrote...

I meant Fenris, Anders, and Merril..
We assume Avaline is stable.
She acted stable.
However she did see her husband die, and that's not easy to dismiss .
As for Isabela, I wonder if she was abused in the past and if so, if that influenced her behavior .
So certain characters may not have been as stable as you think.

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Gotcha.  You were thinking about some of the DA2 characters - not all.
I thought they had a nice mix.
Varric, Aveline & Isabella on one side,
and on the other side Fenris, Anders & Merril.
They ALL had some big fan bases.
Oh yeah, I shouldn't forget Bethany or Carver added to the more "mentally stable" column.

I perceive them as stable - as they represent themselves in the game. 
Any other speculations are beyond my interest level.
Isabella came clean on her past and it never interferred.
I tested out her responses with the Zevrann interlude - and I was satisfied if you asked her not to participate (I was a friendmancer and thought this a major lithmus test).

Modifié par zMataxa, 12 octobre 2013 - 01:43 .

[Xilizhra]

Faerunner wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

As for Isabela, I wonder if she was abused in the past and if so, if that influenced her behavior .

Doesn't she admit her mom married her off young to a merchant who basically saw her at the market and had to have her, and her mom didn't even haggle the bride price? If so, considering her mom basically sold her to the first stranger that expressed an interest at rock bottom price, I'm guessing their relationship wasn't very good. Considering the best thing she can say about her husband is "he didn't beat me," that early marriage also wasn't very good either.

I think she says at some points in the game that her marriage felt too confining, so it's influenced her obsession with feeling free.

Note that her mother did that because Naishe (Isabela's name before she was Isabela) wouldn't convert to the Qun.

[SirGladiator]

I enjoyed both DA2 romances to some degree, I think the Isabella one was a bit better from the standpoint of being harder to accomplish, the Merrill one was just way too easy, but it was nice, certainly Merrill is the nicer of the two and the romance itself was nicer. But I'd say both DAO romances were better, the Leliana one was my favorite, but I enjoyed the (modded obviously) Morrigan one too. I think the best character in DA2 was Bethany, obviously she was your character's sister in DA2 so she wasn't an option, but in DAI your character wouldn't be related to her, and she would be exactly the type of character I'd like to romance. She's sweet and nice, but she's got a strong backbone, she's all about family and over the course of the game learns to stop with the self pity, and learns that being a mage is a good thing and she can do good with her gifts. So she starts out great, AND has great character development too, so by the time DAI rolls around her character is so well developed she would be even better than Cassandra. Plus the fact that she's extremely attractive doesn't hurt . But I'm certainly wide open to whoever our options are, obviously Cassandra should be one of them, and I wouldn't be surprised if Sera is the other one, if so I hope she's as cool as she clearly could be, fun-loving and good hearted, that's what I hope she is. Hopefully we'll find out more soon .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Xilizhra wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

As for Isabela, I wonder if she was abused in the past and if so, if that influenced her behavior .

Doesn't she admit her mom married her off young to a merchant who basically saw her at the market and had to have her, and her mom didn't even haggle the bride price? If so, considering her mom basically sold her to the first stranger that expressed an interest at rock bottom price, I'm guessing their relationship wasn't very good. Considering the best thing she can say about her husband is "he didn't beat me," that early marriage also wasn't very good either.

I think she says at some points in the game that her marriage felt too confining, so it's influenced her obsession with feeling free.

Note that her mother did that because Naishe (Isabela's name before she was Isabela) wouldn't convert to the Qun.

That actually was another thing from the comics that didn't make any sense to me. Much like the slave murdering, it wasn't hinted at in the game at all. Even when the topic came up. Isabella's knowledge of Qunari culture doesn't seem very high for someone raised by a Qunari, even a Rivaini one.

Isabella tells Hawke her mother was a con artist who tried to pass herself off as a Rivaini Seer didn't she? That doesn't seem very Qun-like, even in Rivain. What was it about the Qun that she liked? And if she was so fanatical that she sold out her own daughter because she wouldn't convert, why is selling her to pirates the answer? That certainly wouldn't help her embrace the Qun. Why not go to Kont-aar and try to sell her to the Ben-Hassrath or something?

And if Isabella was supposedly lying to Hawke about her past again, what was the point? She already said that her mother never loved her and sold her to a pirate, why hide that part?

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 12 octobre 2013 - 08:14 .

[Angrywolves]

Maybe we'll find out.
If I remember correctly the Qunari control part of Rivain, while the rest is still independent .
Why did Isabela steal that silly tome in DA2 ?
Was it for money, or to sell to the Qun's enemies , or for political reasons back in Rivain ?

[Rolling Flame]

Angrywolves wrote...

Maybe we'll find out.
If I remember correctly the Qunari control part of Rivain, while the rest is still independent .
Why did Isabela steal that silly tome in DA2 ?
Was it for money, or to sell to the Qun's enemies , or for political reasons back in Rivain ?

She was tasked by Castillon to steal it, to make up for freeing a bunch of Blight refugees he had sold off as slaves. I don't think it was ever said what he intended to do with it.