It's no question that Dragonage 2 has probably had the worst reception both critically and financially than nearly any other recent game. Fan's were outraged by the severe and, quite frankly, terrible changes and objectively bad design in some areas (such as re-used maps and inability to equip party members). Whether you enjoyed 2 or not, you are probably well aware that it didn't sell as well as DA:O and probably took notice of all of the drama surrounding the blunder of a sequel.
My question is to those of you who didn't enjoy DA2, do you have any hope for the third game? Are you going to buy it at launch, maybe wait and see what other people say, or somehow try it for free before buying it? Do you think Dragonage 2 was an isolated case(Or DA2 and the ME3 ending if you were part of both upset crowds)?
Personally, i'm going to wait. Probably play a friend's copy or wait for reviews, and then maybe buy it when the price drops. Dragonage 3 will be third-strike for me when it comes to consumer loyalty to Bioware. With companies like Overhaul Games remaking the Baldur's Gate series, and Obsidian working on an original IP in the vain of the old Black Isle games, I don't have to rely on just Bioware for good wrpgs anymore. That said, I hope Dragonage III will be good.
Moving from Dragonage 2 to 3: Do you have Hope?
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:47
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If by massively lowered expectations you mean hope...then the answer is yes. My wallet will respond accordingly.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:47
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Hopes: Sure. Plenty of it.
Expectations: Not so much.
Expectations: Not so much.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:49
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Pretty much. Can Bioware make a great game I'll love. Hell yes. Will they? Don't know.Rawgrim wrote...
Hopes: Sure. Plenty of it.
Expectations: Not so much.
I will say it is going to take a lot to get me to preorder.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:51
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I think they released a game that was playable and tried a lot of interesting things, accomplishing some of them, with less than a year's worth of development. I also think they knew some things would be controversial, but wanted to make those changes anyway.
I hope that they can do more with a couple years worth of time, and I expect I'll be proven right.
But who knows.
I hope that they can do more with a couple years worth of time, and I expect I'll be proven right.
But who knows.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:52
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Blastback wrote...
Pretty much. Can Bioware make a great game I'll love. Hell yes. Will they? Don't know.Rawgrim wrote...
Hopes: Sure. Plenty of it.
Expectations: Not so much.
I will say it is going to take a lot to get me to preorder.
I can't imagine anything will get me to preorder. I didn't quite say it because I didn't want my opening post to be -too- negative but for all the hope I have, I have extroidinarily low expectations. To me, even a medeocre forgettable RPG would be a huge step up from DA2.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:52
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No hope. BioWare is a lost cause. I will probably pick it up out of the bargain bin like I have the last couple BioWare releases.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:53
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Upsettingshorts wrote...
I think they released a game that was playable and tried a lot of interesting things, accomplishing some of them, with less than a year's worth of development. I also think they knew some things would be controversial, but wanted to make those changes anyway.
I hope that they can do more with a couple years worth of time, and I expect I'll be proven right.
But who knows.
Kind of how I feel.
Although I actually enjoyed Dragon Age II a LOT more than most people.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:53
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sure, liked da:o and da 2 alot. i expect great things from da3.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:54
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Blastback wrote...
Pretty much. Can Bioware make a great game I'll love. Hell yes. Will they? Don't know.Rawgrim wrote...
Hopes: Sure. Plenty of it.
Expectations: Not so much.
I will say it is going to take a lot to get me to preorder.
This is exactly how I feel.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:54
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I don't know. DA3 is mostly a mystery at this point. I will have to know more about the game before I can decide whether to get excited for it or not.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:54
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I'm only here to complain about how horrible everything is. It helps fend off the pain from the sucking wound of my existence.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:55
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I wish Bioware all the best and hope that it will be a great success however i have no intention to preorder nor to buy it at launch. If reaction of people who bought it - and not professional reviewers - will be overwhelmingly positive i will buy it for full price without waiting for it to drop.
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Posté 17 septembre 2012 - 10:56
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Lets stay positive here. If you want to complain about DA2, you can do it in the DA2 forums. And there are other threads about what people want to see in DA3.
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Well before the official announcement of Dragon Age 3:Inquisition a lot of significant information was leaked. The information was used in product surveys to gather feedback on everything from the game's title to the companions. Inquisition was one of the options on the survey for the title, so that information is pretty much 100% confirmed.
***SPOILERS AHEAD! YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!***
We got 2 product descriptions of the overall plot of DA3 from the surveys.
This was the first-
"The great nation of Orlais, the most powerful empire in Dragon Age, tears itself apart in civil war. The stout men and women of Ferelden struggle to recover and reclaim their nation from the horde of vile Darkspawn that lay waste to its lands a decade ago. The Chantry, the once-unified faith of the Dragon Age world stands divided. The Templar Order has broken away, claiming the church has become too lax in policing the dangerous powers of the mages. The mage Circles have rebelled, believing the Templars have become too strict, too zealous in their duties, and too quick to slaughter those who dare step out of line.
The World of Dragon Age is on the brink of collapse, and when a desperate gathering in the name of peace becomes the epicenter of a magical blast that decimates the Chantry's leadership, it becomes clear that someone or something is manipulating events to drive the world to chaos.
From the ashes of that explosion, something new arises- the Inquisition. As the Inquisitor, it falls to you to build your power and martial your forces, uncover secrets and build connections across the world. You must explore forgotten places, uncover ancient mysteries and uproot those who would destroy the delicate fabric of the world."
And this was the second, translated from German by a forumite here-
"A portal between the worlds unleashes hords of demons in the land, civil
wars rip apart nations and the corruption is limitless. Someone is
behind the shadows, drawing the threads which destroy the world. Time
has come for the Inquisition.
Take the Inquisitor's cloak and
lead the only force able of bringing light into the darkness. Choose the
direct method and gather your armies, send spies into the shadows or
engage in a political war, make friends and use your connections
indirectly: it is up to you how you lead the inquisition. But you'll
have to take lead of it from the beginning. Make your player a rogue,
warrior or mage and set up your crew from up to ten (!) complex
companions to lead them against those who attack you by systematically
spying on, revealing and destroying them."
And here are descriptions of several companions-
"Cole- A long time ago, a young man died a cruel death is dark place. And now, somehow, there is Cole. Was he a spirit or a demon? Is he human now? Cole is not sure it matters any more. Hounded by memories that aren't his own, invisible in a world he can stalk like a shadow, the rogue must decide between joining the living or preying upon them."
"Dorian-Dorian Pavus is a Tevinter magister. The title conjures fear of arcane master who once enslaved nations. Dorian may wield the power of the magisters, but he delights in not being what you would expect. Brazen and clever, this outcast is on a crusade to rid his homeland of its corruption."
"The Iron Bull- The Iron Bull is a long way from home, and he prefers it that way. A slap in the face of typically humorless Qunari(Kossith), he loves drinking, killing and looting- but not necessarily in that order. The head of a vicious mercenary company, he's known for excellent pay and brutal punishment. It's been a decade-long party, but the Bull may find that old loyalties die hard."
"Sera- Sera is young, frenetic, and a brat through and through. She revels in the athleticism of being an elf, of being different. But her culture isn't elven, or for that matter strictly human. It's the underbelly of the city in her network of rogues; what you do it more important than where you're from, and friends open more doors than titles. Robs from the rich to keep for herself."
Cullen, Cassandra and a Grey Warden are also listed as companions. Art of Cassandra and the Grey Warden was previously shown by Bioware to illustrate their new campanion customization system.
Concept art was also leaked, showing several of the companions listed and a few others.
The art can be viewed here-
http://www.flickr.co...s/87353155@N06/
These concepts were also listed as possible additions/focal points to DA3:Inquisition-
- online/co-op mode
- special finishing moves
- a lot of crucial decisions
- drama and suspense
- player-controlled day/night cycles
- better party management
- 4 companions at a time
***SPOILERS AHEAD! YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!***
We got 2 product descriptions of the overall plot of DA3 from the surveys.
This was the first-
"The great nation of Orlais, the most powerful empire in Dragon Age, tears itself apart in civil war. The stout men and women of Ferelden struggle to recover and reclaim their nation from the horde of vile Darkspawn that lay waste to its lands a decade ago. The Chantry, the once-unified faith of the Dragon Age world stands divided. The Templar Order has broken away, claiming the church has become too lax in policing the dangerous powers of the mages. The mage Circles have rebelled, believing the Templars have become too strict, too zealous in their duties, and too quick to slaughter those who dare step out of line.
The World of Dragon Age is on the brink of collapse, and when a desperate gathering in the name of peace becomes the epicenter of a magical blast that decimates the Chantry's leadership, it becomes clear that someone or something is manipulating events to drive the world to chaos.
From the ashes of that explosion, something new arises- the Inquisition. As the Inquisitor, it falls to you to build your power and martial your forces, uncover secrets and build connections across the world. You must explore forgotten places, uncover ancient mysteries and uproot those who would destroy the delicate fabric of the world."
And this was the second, translated from German by a forumite here-
"A portal between the worlds unleashes hords of demons in the land, civil
wars rip apart nations and the corruption is limitless. Someone is
behind the shadows, drawing the threads which destroy the world. Time
has come for the Inquisition.
Take the Inquisitor's cloak and
lead the only force able of bringing light into the darkness. Choose the
direct method and gather your armies, send spies into the shadows or
engage in a political war, make friends and use your connections
indirectly: it is up to you how you lead the inquisition. But you'll
have to take lead of it from the beginning. Make your player a rogue,
warrior or mage and set up your crew from up to ten (!) complex
companions to lead them against those who attack you by systematically
spying on, revealing and destroying them."
And here are descriptions of several companions-
"Cole- A long time ago, a young man died a cruel death is dark place. And now, somehow, there is Cole. Was he a spirit or a demon? Is he human now? Cole is not sure it matters any more. Hounded by memories that aren't his own, invisible in a world he can stalk like a shadow, the rogue must decide between joining the living or preying upon them."
"Dorian-Dorian Pavus is a Tevinter magister. The title conjures fear of arcane master who once enslaved nations. Dorian may wield the power of the magisters, but he delights in not being what you would expect. Brazen and clever, this outcast is on a crusade to rid his homeland of its corruption."
"The Iron Bull- The Iron Bull is a long way from home, and he prefers it that way. A slap in the face of typically humorless Qunari(Kossith), he loves drinking, killing and looting- but not necessarily in that order. The head of a vicious mercenary company, he's known for excellent pay and brutal punishment. It's been a decade-long party, but the Bull may find that old loyalties die hard."
"Sera- Sera is young, frenetic, and a brat through and through. She revels in the athleticism of being an elf, of being different. But her culture isn't elven, or for that matter strictly human. It's the underbelly of the city in her network of rogues; what you do it more important than where you're from, and friends open more doors than titles. Robs from the rich to keep for herself."
Cullen, Cassandra and a Grey Warden are also listed as companions. Art of Cassandra and the Grey Warden was previously shown by Bioware to illustrate their new campanion customization system.
Concept art was also leaked, showing several of the companions listed and a few others.
The art can be viewed here-
http://www.flickr.co...s/87353155@N06/
These concepts were also listed as possible additions/focal points to DA3:Inquisition-
- online/co-op mode
- special finishing moves
- a lot of crucial decisions
- drama and suspense
- player-controlled day/night cycles
- better party management
- 4 companions at a time
