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[WardenWade]

Now that DA3 has been announced, I am curious if the developers are free to speak candidly about the real potential for multiple playable races in the game (both in the single-player campaign and in the multiplayer format)?  I can only speak for myself, but I feel allowing us to choose once again to play as different races with different perspectives would only increase the replay value of the game. 

Likewise, Inquisition sounds like an ambitious title and I can only assume its events would involve every race in a significant way.  Furthermore, with the use of the Frostbite 2 engine and the graphics/customization options Mr. Darrah's announcement suggested it can bring, maybe aspects like individual models for different races would not be an obstacle?  As an aside, I also feel that options like backgrounds/origins would be great to return in DA3 as well.

Would any of the developers be able to speak now on race options for DA3, in both the single and multiplayer format?

Thank you in advance

[Byker]

They can't announce anything till next year.

[AdmiralDavidAnderson]

I would love race selection on one condition: Fix the way the damn elves look. DA2 elves where terrible and I hated them.

[Fiddzz]

Sorry we can't announce anything other than what is in Marks blog, but, we are following these forums for everyone's input, ideas, and healthy discussion!

[Versus Omnibus]

If we do get to select different races I would like it if they add the Quinari Arhasok to the mix.

Modifié par Versus Omnibus, 18 septembre 2012 - 01:00 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Go with one race, but have each class start you some place different in the starting city. So each class would be it's own pseudo-origin. That BioWare spends less time making stuff I'll never see, and more time making stuff for the main story!

[Irku]

I'd like to keep at least one of the playable races from Ferelden, just to keep the theme going. But it would be interesting if some of the others are from different parts of Thedas. (but that's just me)

[WardenWade]

Blair Brown wrote...

Sorry we can't announce anything other than what is in Marks blog, but, we are following these forums for everyone's input, ideas, and healthy discussion!

Thank you, Blair!  I appreciate it, and your responsiveness.  I hope the devs will keep this aspect in mind

Modifié par WardenWade, 18 septembre 2012 - 01:06 .

[BioFan (Official)]

Irku wrote...

I'd like to keep at least one of the playable races from Ferelden, just to keep the theme going. But it would be interesting if some of the others are from different parts of Thedas. (but that's just me)

yeah, if they are going to have just a human, have multiple back stories. All the origins ones lead to Ostagar. I'd imagine the same with DA3

[Dino]

I highly doubt this will happen.

As I recall, the bioware team has already said they will stick to having a voice actor as the main character. So my guess is it will be one male and one female human protagonist voice actors. They would need separate voice actors (or just really good ones) to incorporate a different speaking style. I know I wouldn't want to play as an elf and have him sound the same as a human, or dwarf.

[TheCharmedOne]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Go with one race, but have each class start you some place different in the starting city. So each class would be it's own pseudo-origin. That BioWare spends less time making stuff I'll never see, and more time making stuff for the main story!

I can get behind this

[andar91]

brownboy77 wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Go with one race, but have each class start you some place different in the starting city. So each class would be it's own pseudo-origin. That BioWare spends less time making stuff I'll never see, and more time making stuff for the main story!

I can get behind this

Not only can I also get behind this, I also think this is the most likely thing for DA3 (or should it be DA3:1...or just DAI?).

[TEWR]

I demand to play as a Dwarf again. And a Kossith.

However, I will gladly accept a female Tal-Vashoth Kossith LI that left the Qun to prove she can be both a warrior and a sociological female.

Which means, I only require the option to play as a Dwarf again.

I'm tempted to post my idea for origin stories.

[Smoogaboo]

I think it would be great to have playable elves and dwarves back. Preferably this would involve both male and female options for all three races, but since voice hiring may be prohibitive, perhaps what could be done is making each race gender set, for instance, a standard male human, a female elf, and for wackiness, a female dwarf, all three with their own voices, which is only one more voice actor than a standard male and female human selection.

[Dr. wonderful]

Blair Brown wrote...

Sorry we can't announce anything other than what is in Marks blog, but, we are following these forums for everyone's input, ideas, and healthy discussion!

May I ask that you guys consider races again? Please, I wouldn't mind that option again, along with the choice of voices. I also like the one race, different classes start option.

[Amycus89]

DavorTheDragon wrote...

I highly doubt this will happen.

As I recall, the bioware team has already said they will stick to having a voice actor as the main character. So my guess is it will be one male and one female human protagonist voice actors. They would need separate voice actors (or just really good ones) to incorporate a different speaking style. I know I wouldn't want to play as an elf and have him sound the same as a human, or dwarf.

Actually, that's a problem I have with voiced protagonists in general... It might sound ok at first in your first playthrough, but as soon you try to make a second playthrough, it always feel really strange when you hear a character that looks completely different speak with the exact same voice as your previosu character. 

Hopefully they will at least have something to adjust the pitch, or consider releasing "voicepacks" with different voices for our characters as DLC.

[Irku]

Mass Effect Approtch?
Lets say you choose your race & class and then choose an origin. (Like how Shepard could be earthborn, colonist, spacer. and then you picked from War hero, Sole survivor, Ruthless.)

Ex.=
You make an Elf mage. As an elf you can choose to be born in alienage, dalish, other. Then since your also a mage you get to choose if your character is a Circle, dalish, or apostate.

I don't know, just throwing it out there. But maybe Dragon Age should just stay like dragon age and less like mass effect.

Modifié par Irku, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:15 .

[Lasien]

I just want to put out there that I liked all the reversionings of races, they just weren't well implemented for elves, and I support voiced PCs of different origins. Which wouldn't necessarily require different voice actors. Just restrict the starting area to one city, and make sure that any dwarf is a surfacer raised there, any elf is either from the alienage or a brand new dalish (after running away to them) and any human isn't a noble, but perhaps the family used to be (like hawke).

That way, you just need one voice actor, with a britishy accent, and you can maybe modulate up a half step for elven and down a half step for dwarven (not sure if that would sound right, but...)

You also only need a minimum of extra dialogue that way - for dwarven you need some lines about not wanting to go to orzammar, or the reverse, and for elven, hates humans/likes humans, want's history/doesn't,  for human, wants nobility/dosn't.

Modifié par Lasien, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:28 .

[WardenWade]

DavorTheDragon wrote...

I highly doubt this will happen.

As I recall, the bioware team has already said they will stick to having a voice actor as the main character. So my guess is it will be one male and one female human protagonist voice actors. They would need separate voice actors (or just really good ones) to incorporate a different speaking style. I know I wouldn't want to play as an elf and have him sound the same as a human, or dwarf.

This is a good point, DavorTheDragon.  For what it's worth, Mr. Gaider recently posted regarding the voice acting vs. races issue.  It sounds like the body models for the races would be the main aspect to work on, though not an impossible one...and maybe with the capabilities Mr. Darrah mentioned regarding Frostbite 2 that wouldn't be such an obstacle?  And with the voice acting itself, hopefully with talented VAs out there repetition between races wouldn't be an issue either

Here is the link to Mr. Gaider's comments on the topic:
http://social.biowar...dex/12615734/11

Modifié par WardenWade, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:35 .

[SafetyShattered]

Blair Brown wrote...

Sorry we can't announce anything other than what is in Marks blog, but, we are following these forums for everyone's input, ideas, and healthy discussion!

So if I asked for the ability to select race really really nicely would that influence your decision? Because if thats what it takes I'll totally do that. Please....with sugar on top...let use select our race. If you do I'll love you long time .

[Sanctuary74]

I would go all starry eyed and giddy if they added Kossith to the playable races.

[jacobdg]

The argument "THEY CANT HAVE DIFFERENT RACES CAUSE ITS TOO EXPENSIVE FOR VOICE ACTORS" Is kind of false. They could just take the voice of a Human Male, do some editing, and you have a Qunari Male. It isn't THAT challenging.

[halO bendeR]

I'm truly curious as to how people think multiple races for the protagonist can be successfully pulled off given what we know of the plot of Dragon Age 3.
I mean, I suppose it's possible to explain away an elf's lack-of Welsh accent/adherence to the Andrastian faith by stating they're city elves raised in close proximity to humans, but would they give the same backstory to dwarfs as well?
How do you propose to explain the raise of a Dwarf or Elf to such a powerful position as 'Inquisitor' given the racism that exists within Thedas society?

For myself, I'd rather be limited in my options to play as a particular race or class of character if it means that the world itself lives up to its own logic. I think that was a glaring problem playing an apostate mage in DA2, and I don't really want a similar situation with DA3.

Modifié par halO bendeR, 18 septembre 2012 - 03:26 .

[brushyourteeth]

WardenWade wrote...

Now that DA3 has been announced, I am curious if the developers are free to speak candidly about the real potential for multiple playable races in the game (both in the single-player campaign and in the multiplayer format)?  I can only speak for myself, but I feel allowing us to choose once again to play as different races with different perspectives would only increase the replay value of the game. 

Likewise, Inquisition sounds like an ambitious title and I can only assume its events would involve every race in a significant way.  Furthermore, with the use of the Frostbite 2 engine and the graphics/customization options Mr. Darrah's announcement suggested it can bring, maybe aspects like individual models for different races would not be an obstacle?  As an aside, I also feel that options like backgrounds/origins would be great to return in DA3 as well.

Would any of the developers be able to speak now on race options for DA3, in both the single and multiplayer format?

Thank you in advance

Well put, dubya-dubya, and excellent points in favor of having replayable races back.

As for the rest of you nay-sayers, now is not the time to repeatedly spout dribble like "I doubt this will happen because X, Y, Z."

First of all, the developers are interested in knowing what we'd like to see in the next game. If you'd like to play as more than just one preset character, this is the time and the place to speak up. If you want to only play as a human for forever, make a separate topic and discuss why.

Second of all, it's rather insulting toward the DA team to insinuate that they couldn't possibly be talented enough to replicate the same programming we saw them start off with back in, what, 2009? Have some faith.

I'll say this -- Dragon Age: Origins remains my favorite game ever, and I game pretty heavily. What pushed it into the number 1 slot on my favorites list was, hands down, our ability to choose our starting character's background and learn enough about his/her background to see the world through his/her eyes. It taught us extra lore, it made decisions that were previously easy suddenly much more gray, it unlocked specific events and responses that kept the game fresh, it made the game a joy to replay. I can make my Warden a different person each time I play and learn something new each time. The most I can do with Hawke is choose to be sarcastic instead of nice (which is something the Warden did nicely too, let me remind you) and give her a different hairstyle this time around.

Even if you don't take the option to play as an elf/dwarf/kossith, common sense says that more options > less options.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 18 septembre 2012 - 03:25 .

[TheDevian]

I will not buy the game if there are not options to play as non-humans, if you can't pick your class, and if you have to be an Inquisitor. Picking my race, class and motivation are absolutely non-negotiable for me. If you can not do the most basic part of any fantasy rpg, then how can we believe you are going to do anything else correctly? It isn't like some games where there are no other races to pick from, you have many. If you can not do the race choice because you decided to go with a voiced PC, then obviously that choice was a bad one, period (not to mention how limited the dialogue became because of it). If you can not do something correctly, then do not do it at all. At the very least the fewer choices we have for what our character is, the less replayability the game has, and thus the less interest rpg gamers will have in it.
...and elves are pretty people with pointy ears, not ugly bugs.

Please stop trying to take the RPG out of the RPGs. Sequels should be more of the same types of things that made the original so good, if you want to do something different, then do something different, don't change something many people loved. Sequels should have more options, not less. I have so little faith in the industry that I have resorted to begging and stating what should be obvious, but there you are. I don't like hybrid games like ME, so the more like it this becomes the less likely it is I will buy it.