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[KENNY4753]

I would really love a Dalish Elf PC. I love the Dalish culture, it's one of the my favorite aspects of the Dragon Age world.

If we are confined to one race I will be less excited but I will probably be okay with it, or maybe different background stories for the race we are restricted to (examples: maybe you were a Warden recruit, an ex-templar, former circle mage, etc.), anything to add to the customization of the PC I could get behind.

[Deputy Secretary of Awesome]

I would applaud any option to choose from multiple races for the main character, as long as they remained voiced, which I acknowledge would be a lot of extra work. Alternatively they could use the same male and female voices for all the races as long as there was a suitable backstory to explain the common accent. It's not as rich I know, but it's a compromise option.

However, at the same time, just speculating from the title and possible story of DA3, the fact that you're playing an "Inquisitor" suggests from the lore alone that the main character would not be a dwarf, and though an elf would be possible, it would still be unlikely given the discrimination they face.

Having said all this, I'll actually be quite content as long as the party members contain a good degree of diversity as they have in the past.

[dragonflight288]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I demand to play as a Dwarf again. And a Kossith.

However, I will gladly accept a female Tal-Vashoth Kossith LI that left the Qun to prove she can be both a warrior and a sociological female.

Which means, I only require the option to play as a Dwarf again.

I'm tempted to post my idea for origin stories.

Seconded.

[brushyourteeth]

Deputy Secretary of Awesome wrote...

I would applaud any option to choose from multiple races for the main character, as long as they remained voiced, which I acknowledge would be a lot of extra work. Alternatively they could use the same male and female voices for all the races as long as there was a suitable backstory to explain the common accent. It's not as rich I know, but it's a compromise option.

However, at the same time, just speculating from the title and possible story of DA3, the fact that you're playing an "Inquisitor" suggests from the lore alone that the main character would not be a dwarf, and though an elf would be possible, it would still be unlikely given the discrimination they face.

Having said all this, I'll actually be quite content as long as the party members contain a good degree of diversity as they have in the past.

Have to say that I agree with the underlined, and would like to add that dwarves and elves share the world with humans and would likely be just as interested in saving it as any human would. Dwarves have a vested interest in the outcome of the mage/templar war since their economy relies somewhat on the Chantry trade of lyrium, and they aren't especially discriminated against, while an elf's ability to hide in plain sight as a servant could come in quite handy.  If the Inquisitors are smart, they'll enlist capable allies from all walks of life, and there's no guaranteeing that this Inquisition wasn't started by an elf or a dwarf in the first place.

[Maria Caliban]

Blair Brown wrote...

...we are following these forums for ... healthy discussion!

It's like going to taco bell for a healthy meal.

[SafetyShattered]

dragonflight288 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I demand to play as a Dwarf again. And a Kossith.

However, I will gladly accept a female Tal-Vashoth Kossith LI that left the Qun to prove she can be both a warrior and a sociological female.

Which means, I only require the option to play as a Dwarf again.

I'm tempted to post my idea for origin stories.

Seconded.

Third....ed?

Anyway I'd love to have a female Tal-Vashoth Kossith....as a LI. Aw yeah. That'd be SWEET!

[Kungfu Nando]

Just... please don't make the VA orleasian. For a company that has roots in canada and now even montreal, you really do have some horrific french accents.. (except that guy from mark of the assassin)

[FINE HERE]

TheDevian wrote...

I will not buy the game if there are not options to play as non-humans, if you can't pick your class, and if you have to be an Inquisitor. Picking my race, class and motivation are absolutely non-negotiable for me. If you can not do the most basic part of any fantasy rpg, then how can we believe you are going to do anything else correctly? It isn't like some games where there are no other races to pick from, you have many. If you can not do the race choice because you decided to go with a voiced PC, then obviously that choice was a bad one, period (not to mention how limited the dialogue became because of it). If you can not do something correctly, then do not do it at all. At the very least the fewer choices we have for what our character is, the less replayability the game has, and thus the less interest rpg gamers will have in it.
...and elves are pretty people with pointy ears, not ugly bugs.

Please stop trying to take the RPG out of the RPGs. Sequels should be more of the same types of things that made the original so good, if you want to do something different, then do something different, don't change something many people loved. Sequels should have more options, not less. I have so little faith in the industry that I have resorted to begging and stating what should be obvious, but there you are. I don't like hybrid games like ME, so the more like it this becomes the less likely it is I will buy it.

^Seconded.

[WardenWade]

brushyourteeth wrote...

WardenWade wrote...

Now that DA3 has been announced, I am curious if the developers are free to speak candidly about the real potential for multiple playable races in the game (both in the single-player campaign and in the multiplayer format)?  I can only speak for myself, but I feel allowing us to choose once again to play as different races with different perspectives would only increase the replay value of the game. 

Likewise, Inquisition sounds like an ambitious title and I can only assume its events would involve every race in a significant way.  Furthermore, with the use of the Frostbite 2 engine and the graphics/customization options Mr. Darrah's announcement suggested it can bring, maybe aspects like individual models for different races would not be an obstacle?  As an aside, I also feel that options like backgrounds/origins would be great to return in DA3 as well.

Would any of the developers be able to speak now on race options for DA3, in both the single and multiplayer format?

Thank you in advance

Well put, dubya-dubya, and excellent points in favor of having replayable races back.

As for the rest of you nay-sayers, now is not the time to repeatedly spout dribble like "I doubt this will happen because X, Y, Z."

First of all, the developers are interested in knowing what we'd like to see in the next game. If you'd like to play as more than just one preset character, this is the time and the place to speak up. If you want to only play as a human for forever, make a separate topic and discuss why.

Second of all, it's rather insulting toward the DA team to insinuate that they couldn't possibly be talented enough to replicate the same programming we saw them start off with back in, what, 2009? Have some faith.

I'll say this -- Dragon Age: Origins remains my favorite game ever, and I game pretty heavily. What pushed it into the number 1 slot on my favorites list was, hands down, our ability to choose our starting character's background and learn enough about his/her background to see the world through his/her eyes. It taught us extra lore, it made decisions that were previously easy suddenly much more gray, it unlocked specific events and responses that kept the game fresh, it made the game a joy to replay. I can make my Warden a different person each time I play and learn something new each time. The most I can do with Hawke is choose to be sarcastic instead of nice (which is something the Warden did nicely too, let me remind you) and give her a different hairstyle this time around.

Even if you don't take the option to play as an elf/dwarf/kossith, common sense says that more options > less options.

Thank you, brushyourteeth!   I agree; as the devs have mentioned this seems to be a prime time to make our suggestions and points known.  With the game now official, the developers can at least more openly consider returning such options, and we're now that much closer to seeing what they have to show us when the time is right...hopefully we can all be a positive part of the process, and all come out satisfied.  

And as you mention, brushyourteeth, they certainly have "the tools and the talent" to make race options a reality once more...perhaps more so than ever since Origins, with the new and from what I can see quite powerful engine Bioware will be using?  And IMO the best way to tell Thedas' story, and certainly the story of a very likely social/political/religious cataclysm, is with multiple perspectives via race (and background).  As it is, our companions will almost certainly be people of varying backgrounds and races themselves, able to be worked realistically into the narrative...with luck the protagonist in Inquisition will have that flexibility, too    

 And I completely agree with you on Origins in general.   It is probably my favorite game of all time...the different backstories available for the Warden all informed one another and encouraged, IMO, the gamer to play through each (as well as both sexes within the origin) to see just how intertwined the world is and how it responds to you.  To me that was a beautiful touch, and very effective, and I feel it could be an intriguing lens for DA3 as well.  As you noted, being given "more" in our games seems like a positive thing to me, and as we saw in Origins it need not diminish a tight, focused storyline.  It can, in fact, enhance it.

Modifié par WardenWade, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:56 .

[Iron Star]

Blair Brown wrote...

Sorry we can't announce anything other than what is in Marks blog, but, we are following these forums for everyone's input, ideas, and healthy discussion!

Since mostly everyone on BSN are begging you guys for selectable races, kossith included, it'd be strange if you decide against it. Not criticism, just pointing it out.

[toddx77]

I would love to play as an elf again.

[AddieTheElf]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Deputy Secretary of Awesome wrote...

I would applaud any option to choose from multiple races for the main character, as long as they remained voiced, which I acknowledge would be a lot of extra work. Alternatively they could use the same male and female voices for all the races as long as there was a suitable backstory to explain the common accent. It's not as rich I know, but it's a compromise option.

However, at the same time, just speculating from the title and possible story of DA3, the fact that you're playing an "Inquisitor" suggests from the lore alone that the main character would not be a dwarf, and though an elf would be possible, it would still be unlikely given the discrimination they face.

Having said all this, I'll actually be quite content as long as the party members contain a good degree of diversity as they have in the past.

Have to say that I agree with the underlined, and would like to add that dwarves and elves share the world with humans and would likely be just as interested in saving it as any human would. Dwarves have a vested interest in the outcome of the mage/templar war since their economy relies somewhat on the Chantry trade of lyrium, and they aren't especially discriminated against, while an elf's ability to hide in plain sight as a servant could come in quite handy.  If the Inquisitors are smart, they'll enlist capable allies from all walks of life, and there's no guaranteeing that this Inquisition wasn't started by an elf or a dwarf in the first place.

Exactly. I wouldn't mind having the same voices among the races, as long as I get the option back. Other races have opinions and live in the same world as the humans, why wouldn't they want to help? 

[cindercatz]

We definitely need origin stories back first and foremost, and that's better with race selection as well, because it allows us to get a broader spectrum of potential game-supported perspectives to roleplay from. It opens the world up so much.

I have no problem with the voice being the same for all races. None at all whatsoever. If Dalish, you could be a Dalish that was taken as a child and raised in the Chantry for instance, which gives you a whole set of character traits to play with (are you resentful? fully converted to Andrastianism? secretly uphold the elven pantheon? remember and honor the elvish tradition regarding mages or the Chantry's? etc.) If you're a surface dwarf, you'd most likely have lived in the same region all your life and acquired or been born into the accent, etc.

On the voice note, *please* give us a realistic French/Orlesian accent with real natural French speaking actors, not faux French and not British/Fereldan. I'm tired of every player character being Fereldan when we're supposed to be playing this whole continent with different cultures and languages. If you could also do Welsh/Dalish and Orzamarran/American as well, great, if not, go with French/Orlesian and give us playable/interactive origins that accomodate that.

[N147]

It's times like these that I'm happy that I always go for the standard "Human Male" set up, much simpler without having to beg the devs to cater to a minority.

[xsamplexample]

It better be a fully customizable character! I dont want to be a human... I spend the so much time being a one in real life.... I want to unwind and pretend... to be an elf.

[CuriousArtemis]

WardenWade wrote...


Here is the link to Mr. Gaider's comments on the topic:
http://social.biowar...dex/12615734/11

Oohh thanks for pointing this out! I'm glad the VO situation isn't really a situation at all. So it's in fact a heigh issue. Well, elves are now close to the same height as humans, so that shouldn't be a huge problem. But dwarves are still quite tiny! And a kossith PC would definitely demand for a cinematic scene to be completely reshot lol

P.S. Oh I should add my two cents as Blair suggested. Please, BW, let me be an elf again ^^ 

Modifié par motomotogirl, 13 octobre 2012 - 03:46 .

[Yalision]

Forcing a human down my throat again would lead to a lot of disappointment. If Bioware did come out and say I can choose, however, with some viariations in my gameplay experience based on my race, I'd be liable to throwing a little party. I'm replaying Origins right now and I'm wrestling with the idea of sparing Loghain and betraying my friendship with Alistair, or killing Loghain. If DA3 can make summon even a hint of this kind of psychological struggle, I'll be pleased.

Modifié par Yalision, 13 octobre 2012 - 08:57 .

[Night Dreams]

I would love to see origins again, but I understand that this may not be a believable possibility in terms of resources and times, especially if they're going to be rushed again like in DA2 (god, lets hope not).

I definitely think race selection is a necessity. I didn't mind it so much in DA2, I still really enjoyed the game, but it just adds another layer of RPG into the mix, as well as customisation and differences in how npcs respond to you etc. In other words, it adds more possibility to 2nd or even 3rd playthroughs, and hence I'd consider the game worth much more.

[Pauravi]

DavorTheDragon wrote...

I highly doubt this will happen.

As I recall, the bioware team has already said they will stick to having a voice actor as the main character.
...
I know I wouldn't want to play as an elf and have him sound the same as a human, or dwarf.

Why not?
Other than accents, which are not exactly integral to race, their voices don't have any distinguishing characteristics.  Assuming the protagonist has a similar background -- or at least a similar place of origin -- regardless of race, then I don't see any reason why they couldn't use the same actor & script for all the races.  They'd just need script alterations here and there.

[Felya87]

I hate being stuck as a Human. I want to CHOSE if I play as a Human, Elf or Dwarf. I expecially hate to be forced by the game to be one, as in DA2.

I never played fantasy RPG with imposted character. It prevented me from buyng them. It's a very important feature to me. I want to have control over my character, and chose race and background is one of the way to do so.

That means, if races are not available again, I would not do the same mistake as with DA2 and I would not buy DA3. It can be the best game in the world, but I would not buy it.

If races are available, I would buy the game. maybe after some time, with calm.

If races and origins (as in DA:O) are available too, I would preorder the game.

It would not matter to me if Kossith would be included, even if it would be a bonus, I would be happy with just my Elf and Dwarf.

[Merlex]

Revenant24 wrote...

It's times like these that I'm happy that I always go for the standard "Human Male" set up, much simpler without having to beg the devs to cater to a minority.

Proof?

[Merlex]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Deputy Secretary of Awesome wrote...

I would applaud any option to choose from multiple races for the main character, as long as they remained voiced, which I acknowledge would be a lot of extra work. Alternatively they could use the same male and female voices for all the races as long as there was a suitable backstory to explain the common accent. It's not as rich I know, but it's a compromise option.

However, at the same time, just speculating from the title and possible story of DA3, the fact that you're playing an "Inquisitor" suggests from the lore alone that the main character would not be a dwarf, and though an elf would be possible, it would still be unlikely given the discrimination they face.

Having said all this, I'll actually be quite content as long as the party members contain a good degree of diversity as they have in the past.

Have to say that I agree with the underlined, and would like to add that dwarves and elves share the world with humans and would likely be just as interested in saving it as any human would. Dwarves have a vested interest in the outcome of the mage/templar war since their economy relies somewhat on the Chantry trade of lyrium, and they aren't especially discriminated against, while an elf's ability to hide in plain sight as a servant could come in quite handy.  If the Inquisitors are smart, they'll enlist capable allies from all walks of life, and there's no guaranteeing that this Inquisition wasn't started by an elf or a dwarf in the first place.

I agree. I wouldn't care about the same voice for different races. Afterall, i have to put up with the same voice for every human character i play. Though i would like to see a voice pitch slider, i could live with out it.

Another option could be voice pack DLCs. I'd much rather have them, then item packs. I bought all the DA2 item packs, but will not do that again. It was a waste of money.

The biggest problem with multiple races, seem to be the cinematics. Elves are about the same height as humans, so that shouldn't be a problem. But for dwarves and kossith it would. I'd hope they could find a way to work around this problem.

[Vitlen]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I demand to play as a Dwarf again. And a Kossith.

However, I will gladly accept a female Tal-Vashoth Kossith LI that left the Qun to prove she can be both a warrior and a sociological female.

Which means, I only require the option to play as a Dwarf again.

I'm tempted to post my idea for origin stories.

Dwarf and Kossith as LI   You will have to jump to kiss her

[h0neanias]

AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

I would love race selection on one condition: Fix the way the damn elves look. DA2 elves where terrible and I hated them.

Seconded, thirded, and fourthed at the same time.