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Should they change the Elves appearance for Inquisition? (Updated)


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#201
Vox Draco

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Elves? Who cares how they look like? Their only purpose in life is to clean their human master's shoes or bring out the garbage...though I sometimes pity them for not being blessed by the makers light like we humans are *sigh* if only they knew their place in the great scheme of things...

And lets be honest here: Elves all look the same anyway...knifeears...pft...

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NO but they should make sure the individual design of prominent elves is better.

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lokisjoke13

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Personally, I'm on the 'they should look like forgotten realms elves' bandwagon

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Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

They all seemed to look the same. Same nose, ears and starved appearance. Yes, there were some differences but not enough. The should all look different but have the same general characteristics to show their race. Give them some bulk if they are fighters and maybe more sleek muscle if they are rogues. Like Alistar and Zevran looked like they had bad plastic surgery jobs but the new Flemeth was awesome. She was a good improvement from DA:O. Just as in life we are all different looking, so why should all the characters of the different races look identical to each other in the same race.


Have to agree with you completely on this one. B)

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DA2's elves own all the bones and they should never go away ever.

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I don't like the DA2 elves. The Origins elves where not good either though. 
I would prefer if the elves just looked like pretty people but with pointy ears. Perhaps make them look eurasian or something. Like Kristen Kreuk.

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Just add pointy ears.

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Rawgrim wrote...

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Why is it so bloody important for elves to look "unique"? DA Dwarves aren't unique by any stretch of the imagination, and I almost never hear anyone complain about them. Elves enter the picture and suddenly they have to look not only different form humans, but different from every other adaptation of elf ever made? They aren't a unique race that BioWare invented for this franchise alone; they're elves. Let them be elves.


This.


Indeed. We have the DA elves who look like elves, but aren't much of a magical, mysterious race of immortal beautiful beings anymore, Instead they are nomadic outcasts who struggle for preserving bits of their racial legacy and culture, or the ones that have mostly lost that struggle and live in the dirty ghettos inside human cities. Unique enough for me.

And then we have dwarves, who look like dwarves and live in a big dwarven city underneath the earth, defending themselves and the world above against evil being scrawling up from their tunnels. Sure, we have the nobles and casteless and everything, but in the end they are very, very generic dwarves. Where is the "dwarves must be more unique" protest?

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The Hierophant wrote...

It's not perfect, but i thought that Talis' design is/was a step in the right direction.

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TelvanniWarlord wrote...

 

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In my humble opinion, they should try their hardest to capture the badassery of these 2 elves; probably just wishful thinking on my part though. <_<


You should REALLY try to get their attention with this one.  I think they'd consider it if it reached the right hands.

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Ehh Orsino was the only decent looking elf in DA2 to me. Merrill was alright as well I guess. I think they need some tweaks. You can still have them look agile/graceful without making them have the physique of Gandhi.

Modifié par strive, 19 septembre 2012 - 01:31 .


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TelvanniWarlord wrote...

 

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In my humble opinion, they should try their hardest to capture the badassery of these 2 elves; probably just wishful thinking on my part though. <_<


This is what I would like them to look like.
I liked that in DA2 the body shape changes, but most of the elves in game where horrid.
At least with Origins, we could fix them with the toolset...

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TelvanniWarlord wrote...

 

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I will pay 100,000,000,000 cookies for this type of elf! Posted Image

strive wrote...

You can still have them look agile/graceful without making them have the physique of Gandhi.


Lol that was funny...and true. Now I'm sad again. sigh

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AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

I know some people like the way they look in DA2 but I really hate it. I much preferred what they looked like in DA:O. What I suggest is kind of make a mixture between the two to please everyone. Please don't make them all have those weird noses and anorexic body shapes. This is just my opinion. I think the DA3 team should make a good combination of the elves apperance from origins and 2.


I would prefer they no longer resemble weird rabbit-goblin things, yes.

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I kind of liked the anatomical diversity of elves in DA2. Hope they keep it, and expand on the cultural diversity of Dalish and Alienage a bit more in depth.

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As always, and since it hasn't been posted yet,

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Modifié par Nyoka, 19 septembre 2012 - 02:14 .


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Nyoka wrote...

As always, and since it hasn't been posted yet,

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Every time i see this i smh @ what the elven design in DA2 ended up as.

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TelvanniWarlord wrote...

 

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In my humble opinion, they should try their hardest to capture the badassery of these 2 elves; probably just wishful thinking on my part though. <_<



I prefer these over DA2 weird model. But then again I understood that these are Origins models?

Those weird looking bat wings for ears in DA2, bhrrr!! (shivers)

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AnniLau wrote...

I like my (modded) DA:O elves much better than most of the DA2 elves. I know not everyone likes the big ears, but this just works for me so much better:

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Cool as feck. Loads, loads better than the DA:2 ones.

Those ears look like they actually serve a puropse to hear things better too, not just some silly-arsed extra flesh asthetic.

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 19 septembre 2012 - 02:25 .


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Got to add my two cents to this thread - I really dislike the DA2 elves and hope they do a re-design.

From the internal lore, elves are supposed to be beautiful, alluring and attractive to humans. The DA2 elves were not.

I keep reading here that some people do not want "generic" elves and something other than "humans with pointed ears."

But what else exactly are they supposed to be be? They are a race that is able to interbreed with humans and produce viable off-spring so clearly they are not a different species altogether. Yet the DA2 version basically makes them into some sort of humanoid, alien race.

The overly elongated necks, the ears that flop down, the deer-like eyes and the overly emaciated bodies certainly make them "distinct" from humans but hardly beautiful or alluring.

And yet "unique" rather than "alluring" seems to be what so many of the "defenders" seem to want. As I read through this thread, apparently some people are reacting against the "archetypical" portrayals of elves as if making them "beautiful" was somehow "generic" and therefore "bad."

Bioware made a fantasy game and used traditional fantasy archetypes. Dwarfs are short, gruff and barrel chested - nothing unique there. And as others have pointed out, no one has any problem with their design.

Elves are supposed to be somewhat mystical (as the in game lore itself describes) beautiful and alluring. Why is this archetype then suddenly under attack - one poster said something like, "Elves are not supposed to be eye candy!" But that is exactly what the lore, in game actually tells us they are!

Perhaps it was a limitation of the original engine or something, but surely Bioware can make lithe (not emaciated), graceful, delicate and beautiful creatures that are distinct from the average grubby, human, and still look like someone you might actually find attractive?

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AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

TelvanniWarlord wrote...

 

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In my humble opinion, they should try their hardest to capture the badassery of these 2 elves; probably just wishful thinking on my part though. <_<


I love it. They look much better while still retaining the unique elven look! Bioware, pay attention to this! :P


I'd vote for this. I found the ET/Navi/ version of elves very disturbing. Fenris worked because they humanized his eyes. Most of the elves didn't work in the second game.

Skyrim changed the facial features but kept their bodies pretty hominid. Dragon Age changed everything, and it was just too much. 

As an aside, someone mentioned the elven redesign in Skyrim. I thought they worked, sort of, but my female wood elves kept coming out looking like Endora in Betwitched.  I think they used Agnes Moorehead as one of the templates! [edited to add content]

Modifié par Carmen_Willow, 19 septembre 2012 - 03:49 .


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I liked the redesign because it made them look different so they weren't just beautiful humans with pointy ears like many games and movies portray them.

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I liked the redesign in DA2 I just think they should not be so damn thin.

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Nyoka wrote...

As always, and since it hasn't been posted yet,

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Cool! Where did you get that? :o

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No, they just need to put as much effort into the background and NPC elves as they put into Merril and Fenris. 

Modifié par EJ107, 19 septembre 2012 - 04:06 .


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I think the elves should put on some weight so they are more in proportion, but other than that, no. I really liked the look of Fenris, Merrill, Orsino, Marethari, Tallis, Athenril, Jethann, etc. It was mostly the background elves that needed to improve.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 19 septembre 2012 - 04:23 .