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Should there be nudity, or no? (The thread that just won't die)


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DinoSteve wrote...

Well if we can play games about beheading and slashing people, I don't see how nudity is a problem, the world would be a better place id there was more nudity and sex and less violence.



except "civilized" society prefers violence to boobs for some insane reason

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If i want to see nudity and sex, i just watch porn, and they are real people

What is so great about pixel nudity and sex?

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What is so great about pixel nudity and sex?


Because waking up in bed next to someone you are supposedly in a relationship with FULLY clothed, ON TOP OF THE COVERS, with your shoes on just looks f-ing weird.

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Because waking up in bed next to someone you are supposedly in a relationship with FULLY clothed, ON TOP OF THE COVERS, with your shoes on just looks f-ing weird.


They could just use blanket

The Sims does that

Modifié par Qistina, 29 mai 2013 - 01:37 .


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Qistina wrote...

Gregolian wrote...
Because waking up in bed next to someone you are supposedly in a relationship with FULLY clothed, ON TOP OF THE COVERS, with your shoes on just looks f-ing weird.


They could just use blanket

The Sims does that

My biggest issue with the BioWare romance scenes of recent memory is mostly that both parties wake up, fully clothed, cuddling, on top of hte sheets the next morning.

Who puts on all their clothes including combat boots post coitous and THEN goes to sleep?  Porn is not an acceptable answer.

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Qistina wrote...

If i want to see nudity and sex, i just watch porn, and they are real people

What is so great about pixel nudity and sex?


We dont masturbate while playing Dragon Age 2 Unless we see a Sexy Mabari,
Sex just makes the Romance more realistic, Cause its a special moment. Fade into the darkness and having it clothes on is just dumb. People want nudity cause each year the Love scenes get worse and worse. I bet just a kiss under the sheets would be enough for every1 

Modifié par DatOneFanboy, 29 mai 2013 - 02:45 .


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Qistina wrote...

If i want to see nudity and sex, i just watch porn, and they are real people

What is so great about pixel nudity and sex?


Whats so great about pixel weapons and fighting?

Why don't you go watch a movie or stage a gladitorial event to sate your lust for blood? What games offer is a role playing experience which offers something different than other media such as movies while extending potential experience beyond what is possible or desirable in real life.

There was a time where graphical limitations did not allow for the dynamic combat mechanics that we enjoy today. The same can be said concerning the absurd offerings foisted on us lately depicting the human form. But that's okay! It can improve!

Sex, nudity and sexuality are not the social taboo you are making them out to be... They can be exploited in much the same way as anything that arouses the passions of men and women. That is why we find them interesting.

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Yes.

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Whats so great about pixel weapons and fighting?


Because it is a game and we play it

Pixel sex and nude we just watch, and if just a matter of watching better watch porn

Watching The Gladiator is not the same as playing as a Gladiator.

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Qistina wrote...

If i want to see nudity and sex, i just watch porn, and they are real people

What is so great about pixel nudity and sex?


I don't think anyone's advocating for nudity because they want to watch porn, or because they think pixel nudity and sex is awesome.  Rather, it's that if there are going to be sex scenes in a game, it would kind of be nice for the scenes to be realistic and not imply that the characters are trying to have sex without taking their clothes off.

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I personally don't understand the issue here. it shouldn't matter whether or not if there's nudity. As long as it doesn't cheapen the game. As least you earth-clans CAN be naked, we Vol-clan tend to explode

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Qistina wrote...

Whats so great about pixel weapons and fighting?


Because it is a game and we play it

Pixel sex and nude we just watch, and if just a matter of watching better watch porn

Watching The Gladiator is not the same as playing as a Gladiator.


I can only suggest that you consider that games are composed of much much more than fighting and violence. Whatever standards you use to come to the conclusion that violence is good but nudity is bad do not make sense to me. 

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I can only suggest that you consider that games are composed of much much more than fighting and violence. Whatever standards you use to come to the conclusion that violance is good but nudity is bad do not make sense to me.


No, what i mean is, if thee is sex and nude in the game, we should able to play them

a. get undressed
b. throw away the bra
c. hop on him/her
d. open up the leg

i. missionary position
ii. doggy position
iii. horse chasing a goose position
iv. butterflies spinning in the air technique
v. a bear roll from the hill

We should be able to play it or else it just a waste, better watching a porn

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Qistina wrote...

I can only suggest that you consider that games are composed of much much more than fighting and violence. Whatever standards you use to come to the conclusion that violance is good but nudity is bad do not make sense to me.


No, what i mean is, if thee is sex and nude in the game, we should able to play them

a. get undressed
b. throw away the bra
c. hop on him/her
d. open up the leg

i. missionary position
ii. doggy position
iii. horse chasing a goose position
iv. butterflies spinning in the air technique
v. a bear roll from the hill

We should be able to play it or else it just a waste, better watching a porn


Yup. The only way to treat this is with sex mini games...

What about setting? or character development? or mood? 

I am certainly not advocating that the mechanic of hitting things with swords translates well into engaging the player with intimate encounters... 

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I am certainly not advocating that the mechanic of hitting things with swords translates well into engaging the player with intimate encounters...


There should be "when you press A button, awesome nude and sex happen!"

It can be included in the dialogue options, choose certain responses, your partner is opening his/her leg, what to do?

i. diplomatic option - be gentle and move in carefully
ii. joke option - make a joke and tickle him/her
iii. aggressive option - just get on with it!

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I don't care. Either way. I just want a good game, and nudity or none isn't going to change a 5 game to a 10, IMO.

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Qistina wrote...

I am certainly not advocating that the mechanic of hitting things with swords translates well into engaging the player with intimate encounters...


There should be "when you press A button, awesome nude and sex happen!"

It can be included in the dialogue options, choose certain responses, your partner is opening his/her leg, what to do?

i. diplomatic option - be gentle and move in carefully
ii. joke option - make a joke and tickle him/her
iii. aggressive option - just get on with it!


u do realize they will make Love scenes Optional, and u can Skip Them too. so why are u disagreeing? 

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Qistina wrote...

I am certainly not advocating that the mechanic of hitting things with swords translates well into engaging the player with intimate encounters...


There should be "when you press A button, awesome nude and sex happen!"

It can be included in the dialogue options, choose certain responses, your partner is opening his/her leg, what to do?

i. diplomatic option - be gentle and move in carefully
ii. joke option - make a joke and tickle him/her
iii. aggressive option - just get on with it!


Why your a genius! I suggest you submit your CV to Bioware immediately for lead sex game dialogue writer! I wish you well.

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daaaav wrote...

Qistina wrote...

Whats so great about pixel weapons and fighting?


Because it is a game and we play it

Pixel sex and nude we just watch, and if just a matter of watching better watch porn

Watching The Gladiator is not the same as playing as a Gladiator.


I can only suggest that you consider that games are composed of much much more than fighting and violence. Whatever standards you use to come to the conclusion that violence is good but nudity is bad do not make sense to me. 



his standards are the standards of "civilized" society. that is to say, glorifying violence and death, but being ashamed and embarased about that which is neccesary for life itself (sex)

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Nudity? You bet, there should be a ton of nudity. In fact, I think it's for the best that all our characters are naked throughout the entire game. We can call Dragon Age 3: "Dragons Gone Wild"! It will be great and awesome and...what was I talking about again?

Anyway, I think the best romances Bioware portrayed were in the original Mass Effect. If games are really going to live up to their "M for 'Mature'" label, I think this is a fair step. Do it as tastefully as possible, by all means, if that consists of keeping the camera angles away from the nipples or the genital area or what not; but keep it real. The idea that our romance options have been progressively putting on more clothes for the romances in each new Bioware game just feels like the story is being compromised for children or something.

That said, I think what we saw with Liara and Ashley in Mass Effect 3 was taking a step in the right direction again. Not quite the same as the original Mass Effect, but it feels like a better compromise...though I'm sure you could argue about it being lacking in the LGBT romances. One step at a time, I suppose.

Sex is not a bad thing. While it can be crude, and certainly viewed for crude purposes, it can also be a beautiful thing; if done properly it really can add to the presentation of the overall story. The Mass Effect team said before the Extended Cut that they were keeping to their own artistic integrity, and if that's the case I think they should continue to hold onto it with more natural portrayals of relationships in their games.

Modifié par Riknas, 29 mai 2013 - 06:14 .


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Qistina wrote...

I am certainly not advocating that the mechanic of hitting things with swords translates well into engaging the player with intimate encounters...


There should be "when you press A button, awesome nude and sex happen!"

It can be included in the dialogue options, choose certain responses, your partner is opening his/her leg, what to do?

i. diplomatic option - be gentle and move in carefully
ii. joke option - make a joke and tickle him/her
iii. aggressive option - just get on with it!


lol, i like this guy:P

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Qistina wrote...

Whats so great about pixel weapons and fighting?


Because it is a game and we play it

Pixel sex and nude we just watch, and if just a matter of watching better watch porn

Watching The Gladiator is not the same as playing as a Gladiator.


I think you should ask all those women who like reading it in romnace novels

then you should ask, "Was so great about reading it in a book?"

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In regards to nudity, Bioware should pull a Witcher 2. Or even Mass Effect 1.

This is a mature game. Its not for everyone. I don't know why people are against it or saying its pornography. Naked people =/= porn. 

Also, this request to follow Witcher 2 or ME 1's style of nudity has nothing to do with sexual gratification. Its to do with logictics. People do not have sex or bathe in the showers in their undergarments. People I know of anyway. Maybe Bioware employees do it that way. You never know. :whistle:

Modifié par The Sin, 29 mai 2013 - 09:25 .


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moar nudity.

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On the one hand I have little desire to see my characters full on going at it, on the other hand I hate it when the censorship nutters manage to scare game developers into banning sexual content in games that are already rated appropriately.

Bioware seems to get allot of flack with there sexual content and worse gay sex scenes :o!!!

The sex scenes in DA1 where mostly awkward looking and funny more than anything else but DA2 was just annoying. The way it just fades into nothingness so you see nothing just to appease the nutters who had a problem with DA1.

Also I found the Blooming rose Pointless and they seemed to be trying to make the whole thing into one big joke. Now I find the whole sleeping with hookers in game kinda pointless and a waste of money but I think they should have taken it a bit more seriously in DA2 and just ignored the complaints.

There were still complaints about DA2's sexual content anyway, these people are just never happy!