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Should there be nudity, or no? (The thread that just won't die)


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as i play witcher 2 more and more i say full nudity with those sexy scenes.... wow those guys can seriously make some nice sex scenes

wow wowowowowow

learn from them Bioware learn... hurry hurry

too bad their are no m/m action :<

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celestial_emperor wrote...

If you have sex - show people having sex - don't insult our intelligence by having people rubbing up on each other with their clothes on.

I'd rather say, if you show people having sex, then don't insult our intelligence as such. But there's nothing wrong with there being sex that is not shown. I don't really see the need for it to be shown.

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Filament wrote...

celestial_emperor wrote...

If you have sex - show people having sex - don't insult our intelligence by having people rubbing up on each other with their clothes on.

I'd rather say, if you show people having sex, then don't insult our intelligence as such. But there's nothing wrong with there being sex that is not shown. I don't really see the need for it to be shown.


I think a good way to imply sex has taken place is if the characters have messed up clothes and are in bed covered in sheets.That's how TV shows do sex scenes without the actual sex being shown.

Modifié par cjones91, 20 juillet 2013 - 08:12 .


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In Exile wrote...
Until gamers start asking for big, hard ****s waving about in their faces.

I'm asking for this.

Throbbing, veiny, ten-inch dicks in Inquisition please.

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If yes; equally distributed nudity for all.
Half naked dudes, and half naked ladies.

If no; You shouldn't fking put a woman in a condom and call it a jumpsuit.
If there should be no nudity, be sure it's equal, and don't make the ladies balls pop out to say hello.
(you wouldn't have a males round things being displayed in such a manner)

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Plaintiff wrote...

In Exile wrote...
Until gamers start asking for big, hard ****s waving about in their faces.

I'm asking for this.

Throbbing, veiny, ten-inch dicks in Inquisition please.

Lol,I would have no problem seeing that.

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They shouldn't even have "romances" as they're currently portrayed.

So - "No".

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Bioware must be laughing at everyone here.

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Tarek wrote...

as i play witcher 2 more and more i say full nudity with those sexy scenes.... wow those guys can seriously make some nice sex scenes

wow wowowowowow

learn from them Bioware learn... hurry hurry

too bad their are no m/m action :<


It's posts like these that make me embarrassed to be a Witcher fan sometimes.

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bob_20000 wrote...

Tarek wrote...

as i play witcher 2 more and more i say full nudity with those sexy scenes.... wow those guys can seriously make some nice sex scenes

wow wowowowowow

learn from them Bioware learn... hurry hurry

too bad their are no m/m action :<


It's posts like these that make me embarrassed to be a Witcher fan sometimes.


It's posts like these that make me embarassed to be in favor of romances at all.

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iakus wrote...

bob_20000 wrote...

Tarek wrote...

as i play witcher 2 more and more i say full nudity with those sexy scenes.... wow those guys can seriously make some nice sex scenes

wow wowowowowow

learn from them Bioware learn... hurry hurry

too bad their are no m/m action :<


It's posts like these that make me embarrassed to be a Witcher fan sometimes.


It's posts like these that make me embarassed to be in favor of romances at all.


It's posts like these that make me embarassed to be a gamer at all. 

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Nonsense, that poster is the only worthy Witcher fan on the entire BSN.

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Nudity wouldn't bother me if it was portrayed in a tasteful manner.

Obviously, it wouldn't be done in an overtly pornographic manner, otherwise the game would be forced an AO rating and it would never sell, but I would appreciate it if the nudity is... Appropriate, for lack of a better way to put it. Then again, that goes for the romances in general. Repeating the scene with the Succubus from TW2 but model swapping Geralt and the Succubus is not something I would want.

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Pfft. At least Tarek owns up to simply enjoying nudity for its own sake, rather than being a pretentious toolbag who tries to veil his true motives with pathetic excuses about "maturity" or "artistic merit".

And for a gay guy, he's being an awfully good sport about all the bare ****** flopping around in The Witcher.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 20 juillet 2013 - 10:56 .


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Plaintiff wrote...

Pfft. At least Tarek owns up to simply enjoying nudity for its own sake, rather than trying to make pathetic excuses about "maturity" or "artistic merit".


If I wanted porn, I could just google it.

Contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to portray nudity in an artistic manner.

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o Ventus wrote...
If I wanted porn, I could just google it.

Contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to portray nudity in an artistic manner.

Did I say that nudity was not artistic? No, I said nothing of the kind.

Anything can be "artistic". Art is entirely subjective. But there is nothing inherently artistic about nudity and games that feature nudity are not any more valid as art pieces than games that do not. Arguing for the inclusion of nudity based on artistic merit is nonsense.

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Plaintiff wrote...

Did I say that nudity was not artistic? No, I said nothing of the kind.


That was the implication in your post, before you edited it.

Anything can be "artistic". Art is entirely subjective. But there is nothing inherently artistic about nudity and games that feature nudity are not any more valid as art pieces than games that do not.


The only one saying anything about art is you.

Arguing for the inclusion of nudity based on artistic merit is nonsense.


See above.

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Plaintiff wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
If I wanted porn, I could just google it.

Contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to portray nudity in an artistic manner.

Did I say that nudity was not artistic? No, I said nothing of the kind.

Anything can be "artistic". Art is entirely subjective. But there is nothing inherently artistic about nudity and games that feature nudity are not any more valid as art pieces than games that do not. Arguing for the inclusion of nudity based on artistic merit is nonsense.

There's nothing inherently artistic about nudity?I guess all those famous works of art and the study of the human body were the work of perverts then.

Modifié par cjones91, 20 juillet 2013 - 11:12 .


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o Ventus wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Pfft. At least Tarek owns up to simply enjoying nudity for its own sake, rather than trying to make pathetic excuses about "maturity" or "artistic merit".


If I wanted porn, I could just google it.

Contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to portray nudity in an artistic manner.

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You know that is incorrect though right? The bigger testicule hangs higher... not lower. I find it very immersion breaking.

Modifié par Nashimura, 20 juillet 2013 - 11:12 .


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o Ventus wrote...
That was the implication in your post, before you edited it.

No it wasn't.

My edit did nothing to change the message of my post, except possibly to make it more insulting.

The only one saying anything about art is you.

Except for you, just now, and dozens of other posters in this very thread.

See above.

Explain how a nude figure is inherently more artistic than a clothed one, then.

While you're at it, also please explain how nudity is inherently more "mature".

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cjones91 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
If I wanted porn, I could just google it.

Contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to portray nudity in an artistic manner.

Did I say that nudity was not artistic? No, I said nothing of the kind.

Anything can be "artistic". Art is entirely subjective. But there is nothing inherently artistic about nudity and games that feature nudity are not any more valid as art pieces than games that do not. Arguing for the inclusion of nudity based on artistic merit is nonsense.

There's nothing inherently artistic about nudity?I guess all those famous works of art and the study of the human body were the work of perverts then.

Do you understand what the qualifier "inherent" means?

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Plaintiff wrote...
Except for you, just now, and dozens of other posters in this very thread.


I'll re-post what I said about nudity.

I wrote...

Nudity wouldn't bother me if it was portrayed in a tasteful manner. 

Obviously, it wouldn't be done in an overtly pornographic manner, otherwise the game would be forced an AO rating and it would never sell, but I would appreciate it if the nudity is... Appropriate, for lack of a better way to put it. Then again, that goes for the romances in general. Repeating the scene with the Succubus from TW2 but model swapping Geralt and the Succubus is not something I would want.


The word "art" isn't anywhere in that paragraph.

Explain how a nude figure is inherently more artistic than a clothed one, then.


I never claimed that one was more inherently anything than the other.

While you're at it, also please explain how nudity is inherently more "mature".


See above.

Modifié par o Ventus, 20 juillet 2013 - 11:20 .


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o Ventus wrote...
The word "art" isn't anywhere in that paragraph.

That's not the post I was talking about.

I never claimed that one was more inherently anything than the other.

Then you agree that arguing for nudity because it adds artistry and maturity to the game is nonsense?

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Plaintiff wrote...

That's not the post I was talking about.


The only other post was me forming a response to you. Quite literally all I said was "nudity CAN be portrayed in an artistic fashion".

Then you agree that arguing for nudity because it adds artistry and maturity to the game is nonsense?


Not inherently, because it would depend on how the nudity is portrayed. In order for something to be nonsense, it would actually have to BE nonsense (like, for actual reasons), not just you saying that it is.

Modifié par o Ventus, 20 juillet 2013 - 11:35 .


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o Ventus wrote...
Nudity wouldn't bother me if it was portrayed in a tasteful manner.

...

Contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to portray nudity in an artistic manner.


I think if nudity was portrayed responsibly, in a realistic manner, I would be satisfied.  If the situation calls for it, not including it is as bad as including gratuitous sex in other instances.  It pretty much means the VG industry is lacking the maturity necessary to deal with the issue.  Just like its customers.