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[XGrlGamerX]

Blackrising wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

XGrlGamerX wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

Let's continue using nudity as we have in previous Dragon Age games: to disgust and horrify.

I want to see some shriveled, blackened darkspawn genitals, Bioware. Add some rotting naked corpses while you're at it.

I mean, who isn't turned on by a brood mother....? >.> 

Weirdos, that's who.

https://encrypted-tb...DimZOeipCjM_6Ew

:wub:

Oh beloved, how I long for thine shriveled skin and wobbling flesh.

Woah, it's getting pretty erotic in here. 

[Ravensword]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

XGrlGamerX wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

Let's continue using nudity as we have in previous Dragon Age games: to disgust and horrify.

I want to see some shriveled, blackened darkspawn genitals, Bioware. Add some rotting naked corpses while you're at it.

I mean, who isn't turned on by a brood mother....? >.> 

Weirdos, that's who.

https://encrypted-tb...DimZOeipCjM_6Ew

:wub:

Oh, look. There's already nudity in the game. /thread

[9TailsFox]

Ravensword wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

XGrlGamerX wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

Let's continue using nudity as we have in previous Dragon Age games: to disgust and horrify.

I want to see some shriveled, blackened darkspawn genitals, Bioware. Add some rotting naked corpses while you're at it.

I mean, who isn't turned on by a brood mother....? >.> 

Weirdos, that's who.

https://encrypted-tb...DimZOeipCjM_6Ew

:wub:

Oh, look. There's already nudity in the game. /thread

This lady looks much better.

[Ziggeh]

daaaav wrote...

Why aren't they as mature as people claim they are? I certainly don't disagree on that point, but if you are attributing it to nothing more than sex and swearing then yes. That is an irrational and excessive reaction to both of those things.

But that's exactly it. It is nothing more than sex and swearing. It inserts them as if their mere presence is enough to confer maturity. It misunderstands what mature means, like a child drawing on a moustache with felt pen.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Hell yeah, nudity will always exist but it shouldn't be used as a main factor in the game.

[xkg]

Sandal is ready for anything, so bring it on!



Edited to remove quote with links to inappropriate material
Mod04

Modifié par BioWareMod04, 23 juillet 2013 - 10:46 .

[Das Tentakel]

Thomas Andresen wrote...


I think one of the easiest examples of what makes the series, and especially the 2nd game, juvenile is listening the the king's speeches during the opening chapter. There's nothing mature about spouting profanities in every single sentence. Granted, not everyone does that, but it's pretty damned close.

Ever heard of Patton's speech to the Third Army? www.youtube.com/watch

These things happened. It also characterises Foltest as a King who mingles with his troops and tries to connect with them, remembering their names and using their language, which is, admittedly, crude.
Newsflash: Medieval soldiers weren't very nice or particularly sophisticated people.

Modifié par Das Tentakel, 23 juillet 2013 - 11:55 .

[PnXMarcin1PL]

BioWareMod04 wrote...

Sandal is ready for anything, so bring it on!



Edited to remove quote with links to inappropriate material
Mod04

bah


Still I blieve that tasteful nudity (not only romance scenes) should be in the game. We deal with it everyday whether we want it or not.

[Dot.Shadow]

Eh, just put the nudity in, in the world wide version. The 'murican version can keep their censored nudity, otherwise somebody's bound to lose their minds.

[Degs29]

CronoDragoon wrote...

simfamSP wrote...
 Not with porn, but with a good cutscene.

But porn is what the majority of TW2 sex scenes are. There's no point to them other than screwing, with the only real exceptions being the Triss scenes (with the second half of the bath scene being comedic more than romantic). What is the point of animating a scene where Geralt screws a half-goat thing? Or some random elven chick who wants to thank Geralt with her vagina? Or all the prostitute scenes? Why don't fade to blacks suffice in scenes where there's nothing romantic, artistic, or intimate going on? Nevermind that all these scenes get animated with in-game models while important backstory is relegated to motion comics.

This isn't a matter of being offended by naked bodies. I wasn't. They were very attractive digital ladies. But there's no real reason for those scenes other than seeing boobs.

Frankly I agree that the non-Triss scenes were unnecessary for my enjoyment of the game and didn't further the story (although it does say something about your personal character development of Geralt).  But you know what...if others like that kind of thing, I say fine.  I don't find anything wrong with showing sex and nudity, even if only gratuitously. 

I'm not even sure why sex and nudity offend some people.  Seeing a bare ass and a pair of breasts in a game doesn't turn me into the world's most misogynistic pig.  I don't suddenly start seeing women as boobs on legs.  It's absurd that anyone would even think that.

[Monica83]

Ziggeh wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

No and why?... Because they show naked body?.. Because they show actually mature scenes?...The elven bath scene was absolutely beautifull..

I don't even.

Sex in The Witcher is laugh out loud funny. It's so hilariously gratuitous, as it's screams "mature" at you with all the maturity of a horny, foul mouthed thirteen year old.

Oh really?....Some scene are supposed to be funny.. not like your post of course.....

So for your point of wiew is more mature show a woman that make the shower Dressed..... Or having an elf on your bed that after the sex wears a corset out of nowhere?.....Or having a piratess in panties and corset and longboots that jump on your character undressing only the knife?...

You have a very strange meaning of maturity...

Ho please.....

[GreenSoda]

Ziggeh wrote...

daaaav wrote...

Why aren't they as mature as people claim they are? I certainly don't disagree on that point, but if you are attributing it to nothing more than sex and swearing then yes. That is an irrational and excessive reaction to both of those things.

But that's exactly it. It is nothing more than sex and swearing. It inserts them as if their mere presence is enough to confer maturity. It misunderstands what mature means, like a child drawing on a moustache with felt pen.

No sex please, we're British.

...you know, the absence of nudity doesn't make any media insta-mature, neither.

[Monica83]

And most important

The witcher 2 scenes are not Porn... There is a common ignorance about Porn then i will set it up...
Porn are explicit sexual content..Kinda hard to explain whitout get me banned but....
Is porn when you see the full sexual act whitout camera angles and you see genitalia in the act...
A naked body is not porn...
See a sex scene whitout genitalia is not porn....

So in the end... The scene in mass effect 1 and in the witcher game are not porn...

Should be nudity in the game? If there are cutscenes like takin a shower or sex romance scenes yes....

Because see things like the example mentioned before is just not only silly but ridicolus and laughtable

Modifié par Monica83, 23 juillet 2013 - 04:35 .

[CronoDragoon]

Monica83 wrote...

And most important

The witcher 2 scenes are not Porn... There is a common ignorance about Porn then i will set it up...
Porn are explicit sexual content..Kinda hard to explain whitout get me banned but....
Is porn when you see the full sexual act whitout camera angles and you see genitalia in the act...
A naked body is not porn...
See a sex scene whitout genitalia is not porn....

So in the end... The scene in mass effect 1 and in the witcher game are not porn...

Should be nudity in the game? If there are cutscenes like takin a shower or sex romance scenes yes....

Because see things like the example mentioned before is just not only silly but ridicolus and laughtable

You are literally just making up your own definitions of pornography. There is hardcore porn and softcore porn, the latter having an absence of genitals. It's still defined as porn. The characteristic of porn that is important is the lack of any purpose because sexual arousal. This applies to the majority of TW2 scenes. It's also why people call things "gun porn" or such, to illustrate the absence of purpose.

In reply to Degs, like I said, it didn't offend me. I'm just calling BS on the whole "TW2 sex scenes represent the game's maturity." They are juvenile scenes made for horny dudes (or gals) much like the cards in TW1.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 23 juillet 2013 - 05:08 .

[Monica83]

Is fun how some people became irritable when talking about include nudity in scenes that REQUIRE it for the sake of realism....

I repeat.... if i see a woman makin a shower with undies...i think she have serious mental diseases

[Monica83]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

And most important

The witcher 2 scenes are not Porn... There is a common ignorance about Porn then i will set it up...
Porn are explicit sexual content..Kinda hard to explain whitout get me banned but....
Is porn when you see the full sexual act whitout camera angles and you see genitalia in the act...
A naked body is not porn...
See a sex scene whitout genitalia is not porn....

So in the end... The scene in mass effect 1 and in the witcher game are not porn...

Should be nudity in the game? If there are cutscenes like takin a shower or sex romance scenes yes....

Because see things like the example mentioned before is just not only silly but ridicolus and laughtable

You are literally just making up your own definitions of pornography. There is hardcore porn and softcore porn, the latter having an absence of genitals. It's still defined as porn. The characteristic of porn that is important is the lack of any purpose because sexual arousal. This applies to the majority of TW2 scenes.

In reply to Degs, like I said, it didn't offend me. I'm just calling BS on the whole "TW2 sex scenes represent the game's maturity." They are juvenile scenes made for horny dudes (or gals) much like the cards in TW1.

No hun you are really confused... by your definition half of TV show that features naked bedding scenes are porn..But is not in that way.... Game of thrones is porn?... Eye wide shout is porn?.... No its not.....

There is difference between porn and erotic scene..Inform yourself...

I never sayd TW2 scenes represent the whole maturity of the game.. I Said they are done in a tastefully manner...

Have sex happen.. Even sometimes in Rl whit someone you barely know if there is a strong attraction... in Real life mans don't go with hookers?... This was more and more common in medieval times... I don't see how is Juvenile having a man in a meadieval setting that have sex with her woman and eventually go also with hooker....Is part of the context and settings..
About the card personally i enjoyed them just because i enjoy erotic art,.. but i agree there was not necessary...

Is really bad and unaccettable wanting nudity in scenes that requires them?...It disturb you so much seeing naked body or a sex love scene? If yes i am sorry for you

[CronoDragoon]

Monica83 wrote...
Is really bad and unaccettable wanting nudity in scenes that requires them?...It disturb you so much seeing naked body or a sex love scene? If yes i am sorry for you

You have not really read anything I've said, it's now obvious, or you would have known my answer to this that I've already given. Enjoy your personal definition of pornography with which no one agrees.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 23 juillet 2013 - 05:22 .

[Ziggeh]

Monica83 wrote...

So for your point of wiew is more mature show a woman that make the shower Dressed..... Or having an elf on your bed that after the sex wears a corset out of nowhere?.....Or having a piratess in panties and corset and longboots that jump on your character undressing only the knife?...

Those are not the only alternatives to the gratuitous use of sex for it's own sake. I'm not entirely sure how they're examples within the same argument, other than some sort of unfounded attempt to paint my position in a derogatory light.

[Ziggeh]

GreenSoda wrote...

No sex please, we're British.

...you know, the absence of nudity doesn't make any media insta-mature, neither.

Again, not the only alternative.

The sex in the witcher exists for the sex. It's not a resolution or development, it's just sex. I'd argue that Bioware games are guilty of a similar issue, but far less overtly, in that their romances "gamify" romances, making sex a goal to be achieved rather than a part of the relationship.

[CronoDragoon]

Let me pose this question: What would it change about your understanding of The Witcher's world, characters, or story, to fade to black instead of showing Geralt banging prostitutes?

[Ziggeh]

Monica83 wrote...

The witcher 2 scenes are not Porn... There is a common ignorance about Porn then i will set it up...
Porn are explicit sexual content..

You're talking about types of porn rather than definition. Porn is sexual content that exists for no other purpose than titillation. Now one could argue that it also exists in those games as a reward, but that reward is still titillation.

[Monica83]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Monica83 wrote...
Is really bad and unaccettable wanting nudity in scenes that requires them?...It disturb you so much seeing naked body or a sex love scene? If yes i am sorry for you

You have not really read anything I've said, it's now obvious, or you would have known my answer to this that I've already given. Enjoy your personal definition of pornography with which no one agrees.

No no i read it.. The last comment was writed as example.. not intended to be addressed at you in particular... About the definition... There is a different meaning of porn between america and europe... I can't understand the confusion what for you or other are porn for me are not... America tends to use the term porn confusing it with eros.... In europe porn have a mor explicit meaning and scene like you described are just defined as erotic scene... Just to clarify...

And about tillation and stuff...

To have sex you don't have necessarly to romance someone... Sex can happen by part of a romance in rl but also if you find someone extremely attractive... I know for some people is kinda hard to admit but happens... I know is more acceptable for the people mind that sex comes after love but is not always in this manner...The witcher features sex scene with the puropose of sex? Well is part of the setting.. The witcher world is a gritty medieval fantasy... In medieval was more common go with an hooker and didin't even mention the violent part of the medieval life that i don't and never want to see..Is wrong put it on the game? no its not..as a long don't contain sex for the sake of violence that would be very very bad tasteful...

Modifié par Monica83, 23 juillet 2013 - 05:34 .