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[Zorinho20_CRO]

Morgax_Warrior wrote...

Well human(noid) body is beatiful i see no reason to hide it as long as game focuses on story instead of "80085" selling point, Isabella was lil bit overshot in my opinion.

You mean "Overpowered"?

[Morgax_Warrior]

zorinho20 wrote...

Morgax_Warrior wrote...

Well human(noid) body is beatiful i see no reason to hide it as long as game focuses on story instead of "80085" selling point, Isabella was lil bit overshot in my opinion.

You mean "Overpowered"?

Not sure how you overpower breasts but yes something like that.

[Necrotron]

I think PG-13 is appropriate for the primary game. Mods will always be available to make things nude if desired.

I rather enjoy how Bioware has handled the romance scenes up until now.

Modifié par Bathaius, 18 septembre 2012 - 07:48 .

[g99]

Bathaius wrote...

I think PG-13 is appropriate for the primary game. Mods will always be available to make things nude if desired.

I rather enjoy how Bioware has handled the romance scenes up until now.

The thing is if nudity is in the game by default (intended and done by the developer) it's much more controversial then mods. If a moder created a modification it's his responsibility. Look at Skyrim (the ultimate modding toy) there are mods and mods but all that we can say for Bethesda is "well they created a toy, it's not the responsibility of the developer how it's used".
I don't know is DA requiring nudity? It works fine by me with more emotional depth than just pure nudity.

[Emerald Rift]

I'm not too bothered on the actual sex scenes but I would like more romance conversations and content like back in DA:0, DA2 was a little sparse on it.

[unbentbuzzkill]

i could care less it doesn't matter just don't go all gta ( hot coffee ) on us okay bioware

[AlienWolf728]

Bathaius wrote...

I think PG-13 is appropriate for the primary game. Mods will always be available to make things nude if desired.

I rather enjoy how Bioware has handled the romance scenes up until now.

PG-13 in a 17+ game. No.

[Maferath]

I'm gonna join the general consensus that ME1 did it right.

[cindercatz]

Yes, there should be nudity. Censoring, odd angles, and fade to black all detract from the scenes where nudity should otherwise be present. Nudity only ever improves any scene and any piece of art where the emotional impact of an appropriate scene is important. If, otoh, the scene is still present, but the nudity is skirted around, I'm immediately taken out of the scene. No naturally present nudity should be avoided, but you also don't do gratuitous nudity in a more serious property like DA. If it would mean something, it should be there.

It's also an artistic integrity issue for me (the real kind, not the excuse). If you compromise the quality of your piece because of some outside corporate marketing reason or another outside bias, then you've damaged the scene and detracted from its impact, and thereby damaged your entire work, because these scenes tend to be about more than just t&a, lions and tigers and bears, oh my. It's art's job to honestly reflect and comment on the human condition, and to faithfully engage the intended audience, not to take the easy way out. Cheap censorship is antithetical to art and any artistic work.

Nudity is important when it should be there in a particular scene for a lot of reasons, and is a very strong storytelling tool. So yes, if a scene would otherwise call for it, it should be there. If not, then the scene shouldn't exist in the first place, because it's obviously devalued in the work.

The only limitation I accept as legitimate is the legal rating one, and that should never be an issue. Nobody's seriously suggesting sexually explicit nudity for DA like the pc mods. Not even close.

On the Ratings: M+ is directly equivalent to an R rated film. If you try to be PG-13 in an R rated game (only for false marketing reasons, can't think of another serious reason anybody ever does this), you're being disingenuous and hurting your game.

Modifié par cindercatz, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:01 .

[Direwolf0294]

Depends what you mean by nudity. Do you mean partial nudity during sex scenes like in ME1 and ME3? Do you mean nudity like the Broodmothers bare breasts in Awakening? Do you mean nudity like your characters can full on strip down to nothing?

I think they should aim for Origin/Awakening in terms of nude creatures. Topless Desire Demons and Broodmothers and the like, but they should also go for partial nudity like ME1 and ME3 with the sex scenes.

They may as well add strip down to nothing though as you just know they'll be mods for that within a day after the games release.

Edit:

Actually, part of me really wants them to just add full on nudity to see if it'll get past Australia's new R18+ rating we'll have by the time the game comes out.

Modifié par Direwolf0294, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:06 .

[Fredvdp]

If they can have exploding bodies and blood covering the characters' faces, I don't see why they can't throw in nudity. Knowing BioWare, they want to cover it up, but I much prefer it if they do so with clever camera angles than by showing us clothes on clothes action. That never did make any sense to me.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:05 .

[HipHop402]

It could be nice to have nudity in the game, sometimes I hate feeling as if things in my life are being censored as an adult. That being said, Partial or full frontal nudity, but intercourse (penetration) should always be left to the imagination in video games. I don't want to feel too sleazy after all lol.

[cindercatz]

I mean like in any R rated film where the relationships and/or other relevant scenes require honest nudity. So full nudity itself if appropriate to a scene, but no explicit sex scenes, no close in lingering for erotic effect, etc. Nothing like that.

It should always be appropriate to the emotions and ideas the particular scene is attempting to provoke.

Modifié par cindercatz, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:06 .

[TheTobifreed]

I think partial nudity is acceptable, like they went with in Mass Effect 1.
It's an M rated(U.S. Rating) video game.
Do I need nudity in a non-erotic video game? Absolutely not.

[cindercatz]

Do I need it or bust? No. Does it make the experience more immersive and emotionally affecting? Yes.

Cygnus x1 wrote...

Thank Senator Joe Lierman for saveing "mature" gameing industry.
Lieberman is one of the Senate's leading opponents of violence in video games and on television.
Boy was I angry at this guy......Until

He demanded a rateing system and made parents decide what games their kids would play.
This also gave the gameing industry the freedom to Keep red blood in their products and freedom to create adult & mature rated games.

With out that rateing system lieberman introduced ,the gameing industrys hands would be tied .
We would all be playing Miss PacMan without her mouth because her mouth would be considered too violent for the entire population.

Honestly, without serious M rated games, I don't think I'd be gaming all that much anymore, just like I don't go see many PG-13 or less rated movies. It's a very good thing games have started to grow up with their audience.

Modifié par cindercatz, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:22 .

[Knight of Dane]

I actually like the romance scenes where nudity is included. Liara highlighted as she seems to be the only one going nude in more than one instance.

But i think i like it more because of the sensitivity displayed in both Mass Effect 1 and 3 which I really like and not so much because of dem bewbz.

I don't like fade to black simply because i think it's idiotic to work up a romantic mood only to cut it short when the kisses reach the neck.

I don't need rapid movement and moaning sounds like it the Witcher, but I like to see a good romance scene where you can feel the character's care for one another.

[thebigbad1013]

I honestly don't care one way or the other. To me this particular subject has absolutely no bearing on my enjoyment of this game or what I want from the game.

[Ulfros]

 It would benefit the franchise to lose the kindergarden stamp and look as rugged as The Witcher or Game of Thrones. There is sort of a counter-prude revolution going on in the media.

That said, there doesn't have to be nudity, either. But if there's a sex-scene or I'm in a brothel, I will expect it. It's not like there's anything wrong with the naked human body. We all see it every day.

Modifié par Ulfros, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:27 .

[Bfler]

I'm ok with nudity and also love scenes, if they are graceful.
We have tons of brutal violence, so some naked bodies shouldn't be a sacrilege.

[SpunkyMonkey]

Done right it would be cool - nothing OTT just a flash or glimpse of someone in the buff when it suited.

Say there's 10 characters in DA:3 I'd love to see one of them a fully blown romance which had barely anything to do with the act of sex itself - say a chantry based companion who couldn't do anything because of her vows, and who constantly had to fight their urges to remain pure.

If Bioware were looking to push the boundaries a more controversial angle on that could even give the player the option of forcing themselves on the character, leading to a major kerfuffle and consequentially major dissension in the ranks. And maybe even an alternate character romance to mirror that - someone who loves a bit of rough and who if you make the exact same choices of forcing yourself on them loves it and responds with wild sex.

Definitely a bit controversial, but in real life there are many grey areas like that.

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:29 .

[TheCharmedOne]

nudity in love scenes wouldnt bother me, or see people topless in the brothel. IF it wasnt in the game, it wouldnt bother me either. What would bother me is fully clothed "love" scenes

[cindercatz]

Knight of Dane wrote...

I actually like the romance scenes where nudity is included. Liara highlighted as she seems to be the only one going nude in more than one instance.

But i think i like it more because of the sensitivity displayed in both Mass Effect 1 and 3 which I really like and not so much because of dem bewbz.

I don't like fade to black simply because i think it's idiotic to work up a romantic mood only to cut it short when the kisses reach the neck.

I don't need rapid movement and moaning sounds like it the Witcher, but I like to see a good romance scene where you can feel the character's care for one another.

Agreed. Except even in the Liara scenes, particularly in ME3, the odd angles and quick cutaway from the whole thing detract from the otherwise strong scene. Liara ME1 is 'good', Liara ME3 'okay', the love scene in Heavy Rain is powerful and 'excellent'. I think in the last case, the optional nature of it that you naturally decide for yourself through gameplay makes the scene even stronger. In all three cases, the conversation and sensitivity around the entire scenes add a great deal of weight to them. The Liara relationship became the most important part of Mass Effect for me, because of how well the romance was handled overall (even with a good number of flaws over the course of the series). Heavy Rain is just a masterpiece and my favorite game ever made.

[JMSLionheart]

Nudity is not a must for Romances. But they should add it as an option. Nudity filter On/Off. As the blood in DA: O...

[Sister Goldring]

It sounds like an awful lot of work for not much return to me, assuming they're going with unique body models again. I say, save the cash and fade to black.

Modifié par Sister Goldring, 18 septembre 2012 - 10:25 .

[draco Mastah]

IN my honest opinion I say ME1 did the best with this. The characters were nude and you didnt see anything. This is a great balance for us players who have younger siblings that watch you play all the time.