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[Nashimura]

Angrywolves wrote...

Your fault Nish.
The I'm embarrassed talk.
The talk about porn. You mentioned it.
A fan of DA romances, wouldn't have have compared it to porn anyqay.
None of the past DA games had porn and DAI won't have porn either.
So please focus on what you're saying.

I compared The witchers scenes to softcore porn (in response to Mdoggy saying  "CDprojektRed has full blown sex scenes and shows it works just fine.")

"So please focus on what I am saying" before you reply. 

[Zack_Nero]

Br3ad wrote...

Help console users see nipples? No one needs help with that.

There is game called GTA 5, and I think it already does that.  But a game that takes itself serious and does I think that's Witcher 2 even Metro.   There are already nipples on consoles for people to see.

[Angrywolves]

Maybe I'm done replying .
Enjoy the romances, , if you enjoy them and have a nice day.

[Han Shot First]

Nashimura wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Your fault Nish.
The I'm embarrassed talk.
The talk about porn. You mentioned it.
A fan of DA romances, wouldn't have have compared it to porn anyqay.
None of the past DA games had porn and DAI won't have porn either.
So please focus on what you're saying.

I compared The witchers scenes to softcore porn (in response to Mdoggy saying  "CDprojektRed has full blown sex scenes and shows it works just fine.")

"So please focus on what I am saying" before you reply. 

The Witcher series is probably the worst example someone could use of a game that is 'mature' and has nude scenes. The scenes with Triss in the Witcher 2 (particularly the Rose of Remembrance scene) were fairly well done and even somewhat romantic, but the rest are mostly juvenile and gratuitous. And the sex cards of the first game were embarrassingly bad.

[Nashimura]

Han Shot First wrote...

Nashimura wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Your fault Nish.
The I'm embarrassed talk.
The talk about porn. You mentioned it.
A fan of DA romances, wouldn't have have compared it to porn anyqay.
None of the past DA games had porn and DAI won't have porn either.
So please focus on what you're saying.

I compared The witchers scenes to softcore porn (in response to Mdoggy saying  "CDprojektRed has full blown sex scenes and shows it works just fine.")

"So please focus on what I am saying" before you reply. 

The Witcher series is probably the worst example someone could use of a game that is 'mature' and has nude scenes. The scenes with Triss in the Witcher 2 (particularly the Rose of Remembrance scene) were fairly well done and even somewhat romantic, but the rest are mostly juvenile and gratuitous. And the sex cards of the first game were embarrassingly bad.

Agreed, and i am a big fan of both games. The Witcher is a mature game 90% of the time but suddenly gets very juvenile when dealing with sex. 

[Han Shot First]

I'm a huge fan of the Witcher as well by the way. But like you I think the series is sometimes at its weakest when it is dealing with sex.

[Mathias]

David Gaider wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Fade to black sucks. It suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. We're all adults here, and just having a fade to black scene without at least showing a little bit of foreplay first is just boring. CDprojektRed has full blown sex scenes and shows it works just fine.

Come on Bioware, bring on the filthy!

Not going to happen.

Just because the rating allows something doesn't mean we should do it, or that we're even interested. It has nothing to do with censorship, nothing to do with us thinking sex is "filthy", and nothing to do with us being afraid of the subject. It's a matter of taste, as in our taste and what we think fits DA's tone. We do plenty of things in DA that earn the M rating, and In our opinion having nudity/sex just because it's possible wouldn't make the game darker or edgier (if that was even something we thought was a worthwhile goal).

What we'll do in DAI with regards to these scenes is something we may or may not discuss prior to release-- so you might have to wait until the game comes out to see what direction we've chosen, I'm not sure. We've discussed improvements-- the team has criticisms of both DAO's and DA2's approach-- but whatever the changes, I can assure you that nudity and "full blown sex scenes" are not in the cards.

If someone prefers that, and holds up CDProjekt as an example of how it "works just fine"-- awesome. Witcher's that way. I'm certain that having games on the market with multiple approaches to the topic is quite viable.

Half of my post was sarcasm, I thought the "Bring on the filthy!" part would emphasize that but apparently not.

The only part that I was serious with was fade to black. I thought Mass Effect 1 and the VS/Liara love scenes in ME3 hit the mark very well. They were beautiful scenes that showed the intimacy of the moment without going too far.

[Merengues 1945]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Only if there is an equal amount of penis. I've seen a lot of boob, while nice, is kind of boring without the whole package.

If anything this is definitely why there will probably never be full nudity, at least not in this game. Even now in movies it's such a big deal to show a penis (outside of a Judd Apatow comedy). I don't know why, maybe it makes all those chaste conservative women lose their fath and ruin their good Christianly lives, and we can't have that kind of madness.

Nope, it's just that the entertainment industry is ruled by men, and men don't like to see other men's penis in an artistic way xDDD

I also find that something unfair, but after all I like boobies so is not a big deal.

I would have no problem at all with partial nudity a la Mass Effect 1, or even full nudity as Witcher 2 if there's a reason to it and not just showing boobs for the sake of it.

[Frolk]

I don't care whether there's nudity or not, just as long as we don't have those awkward sex scenes where the participants are in their underwear grinding against each other like in DA:O.

[Former_Fiend]

I am well aware of how poorly and immaturely nudity can be handled. But I would like to think- and maybe I'm giving them too much credit here- that Bioware is fully capable of handling it well.

[ladyofpayne]

David Gaider wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Fade to black sucks. It suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. We're all adults here, and just having a fade to black scene without at least showing a little bit of foreplay first is just boring. CDprojektRed has full blown sex scenes and shows it works just fine.

Come on Bioware, bring on the filthy!

Not going to happen.

Just because the rating allows something doesn't mean we should do it, or that we're even interested. It has nothing to do with censorship, nothing to do with us thinking sex is "filthy", and nothing to do with us being afraid of the subject. It's a matter of taste, as in our taste and what we think fits DA's tone. We do plenty of things in DA that earn the M rating, and In our opinion having nudity/sex just because it's possible wouldn't make the game darker or edgier (if that was even something we thought was a worthwhile goal).

What we'll do in DAI with regards to these scenes is something we may or may not discuss prior to release-- so you might have to wait until the game comes out to see what direction we've chosen, I'm not sure. We've discussed improvements-- the team has criticisms of both DAO's and DA2's approach-- but whatever the changes, I can assure you that nudity and "full blown sex scenes" are not in the cards.

If someone prefers that, and holds up CDProjekt as an example of how it "works just fine"-- awesome. Witcher's that way. I'm certain that having games on the market with multiple approaches to the topic is quite viable.

How could that be? Broodmothers were naked.

[Nethalf]

ladyofpayne wrote...
How could that be? Broodmothers were naked.

The fat is the new cotton.

[Uccio]

Han Shot First wrote...

Nudity does not necessarily equal mature. I just wanted to point that out as some people in this thread seem to be implying the opposite.

Take for example, the Witcher. The sex cards were both gratuitous and juvenile.

What?! Sex cards were hilarious. Collect the whole deck!

My prude-meter just squeaked when I took it close to your post.

Modifié par Ukki, 27 septembre 2013 - 08:05 .

[Uccio]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

All this really comes down to is that people want to see booty and boobies.

Video games aren't really the best place for those, in my opinion.

I mean what's next? An interactive sex scene?

Oh God, I'm giving you guys ideas.

Every time I see these kind of posts I want to ask:

Do you play video games for violence, does it excite you?

Modifié par Ukki, 27 septembre 2013 - 08:15 .

[Gnoster]

I don't think including nudity for the sake of nudity is the way to go for Bioware.

I really like the way The Witcher 2 handled it, but honestly I don't see the same way working for Bioware's dragon Age series. Where as Witcher games are more about the act of sex due to the harsh and dark nature of the world, Bioware's worlds of Thedas and Mass Effect are more about the human romantic side of it. So what works for one doesn't necessarily work for the other.

However this said including sexual scenes with people in their underwear is trying to provide sexual content without including it, and that just doesn't work at all. If Bioware are to include any sexual scenes at all (and that's not a necessity), then I would prefer they do it in the style of Mass Effect 1 and 3, I remember some nice produced very romantic scenes with Shepard and Ashley (ME1) and Liara (ME1 and ME3). Those scenes are proof that you can includes sexual content to a degree without angering anyone (except Fox News from what I heard? I'm not sure as I'm not american).

Modifié par Gnoster, 27 septembre 2013 - 08:18 .

[Shark17676]

Br3ad wrote...

The Woldan wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Perhaps they should just cut the romances all together.

Of course that would lead to certain posters leaving in a raaaaaage but that's a price I'm willing to pay.

Good riddance I say. Bring on the no-mances, Bioware.

I approve of this

Yuuup.

+1

So, what is it with people demanding the cut of OPTIONAL content? Dumb much?

What's with the snide comment? Condescending much? Also, we're refering to the pointless arguments had over fictional characters that are completely nonsensical. Clueless much? 

Then why do you even care?

[Mahumia]

What is up with the 'remove romance altogether' nonsense? At least, it sounds like nonsense to me... I think it is great to have the option. And for those who don't care: it is op-tio-nal, so don't do it, but don't call names on those who like to have that option...
I really missed it in Awakenings, so yeah, I like having the option for roleplayed romance.

I like it that bioware is providing options so people can play the game the way they want it. Whether it is about gameplay (persistent gore, difficulty) or roleplay (personality, looks, gender, sexuality). The more options, the merrier, if you ask me. And I know I am repeating myself, but can't we just take the middle way and make things optional? Underwear or more fade to black for those who prefer that, tactical shots and more skin for the others and throw in a toolkit for those who want to take things a step further?

[bEVEsthda]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I don't think the sex scenes themselves are necessary. I wouldn't mind at all if they went away.

But I still think nudity can be used in a way that improves the game. Furthermore, if the game intends to avoid nudity, then it needs to be carefully designed to avoid situations where nudity would be appropriate (and that's hard to do, since the central character is designed by the player, so controlling him is largely beyond the developers' control).

The lack of nudity where there should be nudity is exactly as jarring as the presence of nudity where it doesn't make sense.

The problem, Sylvius, is that we can't discuss this without people turning to the "Fox News" issue like dog to vomit.

I appreciate your efforts, though.

I wonder why threads like this consume so much time and so many pages. Do people really think EA/Bioware can be persuaded to include nudity?

- Of course there should be nudity!  (S. t. Mad's position is spot on)
- Of course there won't be that sort of nudity! Never going to happen with Bioware, and even if it would, it sure as H* won't ever happen with EA. Why doesn't everybody know this already?
- Of course there will be nudity. Eventually, from modders. But as it probably will be in a form totally unsuitable for the game, story and gameplay, serving only a different taste, it's utterly irrelevant anyway.
Just deal with it.

[Br3admax]

Shark17676 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

The Woldan wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Perhaps they should just cut the romances all together.

Of course that would lead to certain posters leaving in a raaaaaage but that's a price I'm willing to pay.

Good riddance I say. Bring on the no-mances, Bioware.

I approve of this

Yuuup.

+1

So, what is it with people demanding the cut of OPTIONAL content? Dumb much?

What's with the snide comment? Condescending much? Also, we're refering to the pointless arguments had over fictional characters that are completely nonsensical. Clueless much? 

Then why do you even care?

Are you asking why I don't want to see every thread on BSN devolve into waifu wars? I don't know why I wouldn't want that. 

[Fishy]

I have no problem with nudity or full blown sex scene.
/Shrug.

Nothing special to that.I don't understand all the fuss about it being to ''graphic''.. The AO rating scare the hell out of developer. KIDS need to play these game. Walmart say so.

Modifié par Suprez30, 27 septembre 2013 - 02:43 .

[Mr Fixit]

Missed the point. Forget it.

Modifié par Mr Fixit, 27 septembre 2013 - 05:53 .