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[Br3admax]

EntropicAngel wrote...

DarthLaxian wrote...

aren't these games RATED ADULT? (for violence already - and that is no concern, because the audience is supposed to be mature (adult) already? - so why not show some flesh...i mean, sorry, but i have seen my share of naked women (not hundreds, but a few) and i have not gone mad because i saw that (that's how nakedness is treated in video-games, like it would make people go crazy if they saw someone naked *shakes his head* i just don't get it...why do all companies bow down to prudes and extremists (the same extremists that give games with killing and gore to children...but if there is one nipple exposed the game suddenly becomes evil, not minding the hundreds of animated enemies your kid has brutally slaughtered before being shown that nipple in the first place....bah, i can't comprehend people and if i were making a game that had love-scenes and romance, i would go "all the way" (i just would not show hours of love making - maybe just the start of the scene with a fade to black, but not these awkward "we are prudes, too" scenes we have had in DA before

greetings LAX

Umm...no. No, they are not rated "Adult." They are rated mature.

I love how games/companies that have borderline, if not outright bestiality are "bowing down" to prudes and extremists. That's some class A disillusion there.

And the misconception that a prude would even be OKAY with a sex scene, if it had people in underwear. Underwear exposes a lot. A sex scene is racy by definition. You really think a prude would be okay with that?


Do any of these people arguing for this (nudity) and attacking people who are against nudity have real arguments? Please tell me someone does.

From what I gather, everyone who does not one hundred percent support nudity is a Victorian nanny.

[Cainhurst Crow]

And anyone who doesn't care has weak sensibility as well, let's not forget that little leap in logic.

[Former_Fiend]

I'd like to think I've been fairly reasonable and level headed in this discussion. But that may be wishful thinking.

[CynicalShep]

Can't believe this thread is ongoing. I mean, clearly ****** in a M rated video game are bad. Graphic decapitations, on the other hand, are alright and even quite fun.

[Former_Fiend]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

I'd like to think I've been fairly reasonable and level headed in this discussion. But that may be wishful thinking.

I don't mean to generalize, I'm sorry. I'm engaging in hyperbole. It's just that so many of the comments are like that--so far to one side that they cease to be realistic.

I understand. I just wish that we on both sides could start ignoring the extremist that Bioware isn't going to listen to anyway and try to have some more productive discussion that they may actually listen to, if not implament. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Former_Fiend wrote...

I'd like to think I've been fairly reasonable and level headed in this discussion. But that may be wishful thinking.

Oh don't
worry
I was thinking of someone else
when I made those
comments.

[The Elder King]

David7204 wrote...

It's reasons like these that have me convinced multiple species in Mass Effect would be a very, very bad idea.

Are you talking about the sex scenes? They could likely made the FtB scene they already did in the previous games. 
Though I wouldn't actually care if I can't romance anyone as a  turian and krogan. I want to play as one in the SP, regardless of the romance content.

Modifié par hhh89, 15 octobre 2013 - 05:52 .

[The Hierophant]

What do you people think about nudity amongst a brothel's workers? I wouldn't mind it as i think DA's brothels are disturbingly conservative in terms of visuals.

Mind you my apprehension for nudity during sex scenes is due to their potential to increase focus on romances and detract focus from the other aspects of the game's development.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 15 octobre 2013 - 05:58 .

[Former_Fiend]

The Hierophant wrote...

What do you people think about nudity amongst a brothel's workers? I wouldn't mind it as i think DA's brothels are disturbingly conservative in terms of visuals.

Mind you my apprehension for nudity during sex scenes are due to their potential to increase focus on romances and detract focus from the other aspects of the game's development.

If nothing else I think they should be wearing much more revealing clothing than they have been. They need to put the wares on display.

They don't necessarily have to be nude; straps hanging off the shoulders, slips in their skirts to show some leg, that kind of thing can work. You need to give the patron something to spend money on, obviously.

[Cainhurst Crow]

That I don't think I would really mind, and neither do I think bioware would have a problem with it either. Doesn't help the only brothel in DA2 was a high class society one, and DAO lacked the resources to pull off that many unique looks.

However, there is still the one large elephant in the room.

[otis0310]

Well as I said bare breasts and groping, then fade to black is not all that bad. So if they wanted to include nudity in that way it is alright by me. We already see that in "R" movies so why not in "M" games? Seems like they go for the same audience right?

But just like in movies there is a line here, I do not think we need to see the guy drop his pants and start sticking things in (I do not think I can get more verbose here).

I am certain some prudes would say it is wrong to have it in games "think of the children!!". But in all honesty an 8 year old could plug an adult film into a blu ray player just as easily as you can, but you do not apply this standard there. Why not?

So from that point of view I would encourage Bioware to go ahead.

However from an artistic point of view, it might no be appropriate. Naked people making out gets the old blood pumping, and after watching it you might need a cold shower. The question that Bioware should be asking is not "Should I take the bra off for the sex scene, or will people be upset at me for doing that?" it should be "If I take the bra off during the sex scene it could arouse the player. Is that the feeling I want in the player, arousal?". If the answer is yes, go ahead. But often they might think it does not fit in to the story well because they do not want you thinking about the lurid sex scene when fighting bad guys 5 minutes later.

[dreamgazer]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

That I don't think I would really mind, and neither do I think bioware would have a problem with it either. Doesn't help the only brothel in DA2 was a high class society one, and DAO lacked the resources to pull off that many unique looks.

However, there is still the one large elephant in the room.

What?

I, too, would like to hear about this ... elephant in the room involving the game's nudity. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

dreamgazer wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

That I don't think I would really mind, and neither do I think bioware would have a problem with it either. Doesn't help the only brothel in DA2 was a high class society one, and DAO lacked the resources to pull off that many unique looks.

However, there is still the one large elephant in the room.

What?

I, too, would like to hear about this ... elephant in the room involving the game's nudity. 

Well, the fact that every single person who seems to want more nudity shy away from having it in romances, saying how fade to blacks and all that editing and camera angles will suffice. But all other instances and situations calling for nudity are either miniscule to be waste of time, or already are being implemented in bioware games.

So that leaves only one frontier that nudity can be applied, along with many people citing romance content not having nudity, traynor shower, as being their main point against bioware. You can say it;s because you should be nude in a shower, that it fits with the context, but it also fits in the context of other content that you have the parties involved be nude when doing the deed.

And I have yet to see anyone demand simple fades to black and camera angles applied to the shower scene, just that it should have full nudity in it. So why the descripency and shrinking away from that point?

[David Gaider]

And I think this thread has reached the end of its usefulness.

If you wish to comment on how "sex scenes" should or should not play out, there's a thread available based on an interview where that is actually discussed by J.P. (our Cinematics lead). Please use that, though kindly refrain from the pointless back-and-forth sniping this thread has engaged in. Thanks.