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[Vandicus]

satunnainen wrote...

The warden obviously remembered something that happened to him before the first game. Something ancient and evil which threatens the whole continent. So he takes his trusty dog and goes there trying to stop it before it destroys all his friends. Unfortunately it doesnt go as planned and Hawke (who remembers being friend of the warden) goes after him to help...

Hmm, suddenly I have dejavu.

Haha. The plot of dragon age isn't written by the guys who made KoToR II, and since the Warden isn't a lost memories protagonist, its not possible for him to have something that happened before the first game to be remembered like that. Much more likely Witch Hunt is the catalyst for the Warden's disappearance. Hawke probably discovered whatever Morrigan is trying to fight independently, rather than as a result of personal investigation into the Warden.

[Robhuzz]

My warden should be living a comfy life at Highever castle with Leliana. But noooo BioWare had other plans for her. Darn you!

Anyway my Warden really does not care. It's not his mess to solve. Let the mages and chantry duke it out among themselves and don't get caught in it. There's no reason why the Ferelden army or the common folk would be involved in this at all. Much less The Warden himself. Unless Leliana gets caught in it of course, in which case he'll jump to her defense...

[Jerrybnsn]

I have one Warden that is with Morrigan and their OGB. It must be pretty hard to raise one of those. Not even the Bible speaks much about that. So if Morrigan and the OGB have anything to do with DA3 and he's not there as a playable character, he will be poed for sure!

The other one is a fiery, redheaded elf that is Alistair's mistress and I can imagine how poed she is that he has been traipsing all around Thedas without her while she is stuck back in Fereldan wondering how to open up Morrigan's package that she gave her and wondering why everyone thinks she's missing. So yeah, if she gets the chance to appear in DA3 there's going to be a lot of dead bodies and Alistair better have a good excuse.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 18 septembre 2012 - 07:27 .

[BadExamp1e]

Warden > Hawke

[Wolf]

A way I see for them making the Warden's cameo work would be having you take control in the very first section of the game while fighting and talking to someone else about current and past events.

Another would be to have import flags relating to certain conversations you had in DA:O. I'd still go for the first though. Would be a nice surprise too.

[daffl5]

I WANNA SEE MY WARDEN BIOWARE!

[iSignIn]

I wouldn't have time to be pissed if I have an estimated 12 year life expectancy.

[PARAGON87]

The Warden definitely should be pissed. He appeased the Architect just to have it break his promise that the darkspawn will not come back, which they came back anyway.

Plus, knowing what Anders will turn out to be, he wouldn't have let that apostate out of that stinking cage.

Modifié par PARAGON87, 19 septembre 2012 - 01:19 .

[marshalleck]

PARAGON87 wrote...

Plus, knowing what Anders will turn out to be

a liberator?

[raw6666]

I do wonder how my Warden will come out, for it was mostly created by mods. They did say Hawk and the Wardens would make a reappearance.

[HiroVoid]

The inquisitor can handle it. My warden's already saved the world once. He doesn't need to get out of his coffin to do it again.

[PARAGON87]

marshalleck wrote...

PARAGON87 wrote...

Plus, knowing what Anders will turn out to be

a liberator?

A person who blows up a church and kills people in cold blood wouldn't be viewed as a liberator in most people's eyes.

[raw6666]

PARAGON87 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

PARAGON87 wrote...

Plus, knowing what Anders will turn out to be

a liberator?

A person who blows up a church and kills people in cold blood wouldn't be viewed as a liberator in most people's eyes.

Most of the mages in the books hated him for his actions. Especially Mages not as opress as the ones in Nevra and Ferelden (possibly Orlais too). I think he just cause more problems then help. Or should have just used his weapon to kill a large number of Templars instead. Either way or not doing anything, the war was going to happen any way, just give it another three years. 

[Androme]

AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

They need to have the warden in this game in some shape or form. You can't just assume he disappeared and leave it at that.

Some newcomers to RPGs seems to find that a good type of ''conclusion'' (ROFL) for a massively powerful and important character such as the (alive) Warden. I never understood them.

Of COURSE the Warden (if alive) should play a major role in DA3 (If possible, plz).

[Shinobu]

My Warden would be happily recruiting any and all willing mages and Templars. She figures when the dust settles, the one with the most mages wins.

She would also do her best to hunt down Anders and see if Justice could be gotten out of him. She considers both of them friends and feels it's her responsibility to save them from each other -- by killing them if necessary.

[Inujade]

My Warden would be pissed. She was very pro-mage freedom, and this war would seem cruel and ignorant to her. She also put a lot of effort into killing Flemeth, to protect her best friend, and would not appreciate Hawke bringing her back. XD

It seems to me that the Warden NEEDS to be a part of this story. For one thing, we know that Cassandra (and Leliana) was looking for them, and there must be a reason for that. For another, we know the Grey Warden's are up to something that is apparently more important than a Qunari invasion, and as one of a handful of Warden-Commanders they would be involved.

Third, for us non-Morrigan-romancers, Morrigan's final gift still needs to be clarified. I can only assume it was meant to prepare the Warden for the great change Morrigan spoke of. How? Finally, unlike Hawke (who turned out to be more of a witness than a true actor in historical events, not that a witness is insignificant), the Warden IS an active shaper of the story of Dragon Age, no matter how you played them, to the point that a universe without them (Darkspawn Chronicles) is a universe where the Blight wins. Their personal story may be done, but their impact on the world cannot be.

So if the Warden must be a part of this, how? Well, I don't expect them to appear. But I would like them to be referenced quite a bit. They should be mentioned as acting behind the scenes, trying to pursue an outcome to this war that coincides with the way you roleplayed them. Perhaps grey wardens you encounter could specifically mention being ordered to your side by THE Warden.

Also (but this is just a fangirl dream)...I'd be interested in Varric telling HIS version of the Warden's Tale, a little bit. :3

[The Six Path of Pain]

Naw...My Warden hates the Chantry,and would be proud that his former recruit is the one who took a stand against the Chantry and it's Templars.Besides he wouldn't care about the Mage-Templar war,since he's a Grey Warden and his only concern is the Darkspawn.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

My Wardens a bloody mage. He should be right in the middle of this mage x Templar thing and should be slaughtering all Templar's.

[TK514]

I'm pretty firmly in the 'Warden wouldn't get involved unless the had no choice' camp.

The Grey Wardens aren't the international police of Thedas. They're an elite army specifically and myopically tasked with defending against and defeating Darkspawn. The only reason they would concern themselves with the Templar/Mage war is if said war threatened to interfere with the Wardens' ability to combat the Darkspawn. Beyond that, I see the Order taking a neutral and hands-off stance to hostilities.

As for The Warden, from DA:O, my take is that BioWare has tossed our individual choices in the wastebasket and decided that they survived and went through the mirror with Morrigan. In which case, they're probably more concerned about the abomination (little a) she spawned than something as petty as a war between the Templars and the Mages.

[Urazz]

I think the only mention of the warden would be if he/she was married to Alistair or Anora or if he went in the mirror with Morrigan.

The only way I can see a cameo of the warden would be if the warden went in the mirror with Morrigan or if you went to Fereldan and met the royal couple.

[Quill74Pen]

iSignIn wrote...

I wouldn't have time to be pissed if I have an estimated 12 year life expectancy.

According to DAO, a newly initiated Grey Warden will survive, at most, 30 years after his/her initiation into the order. I imagine that's the longest a Grey Warden has lived in a non-ghoulish state, insofar as the order is currently aware of.

As for my Grey Wardens, they'd all be furious at what Anders did. My wardens — all women — generally walk a moderate path and get worked up when extremists enter the picture. Sure, change takes longer on that path, but it usually means fewer dead bodies, too.

[TheCharmedOne]

My warden was only concerned with power and knowledge. Hes off somewhere with his OGB not giving a crap.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Well I know my evil city elf warden is probably still in Denerim in the city elf house just constantly sleeping with his feet up. He doesn't give a damn about anything so long as he's left alone. My arcane blood mage warden would probably have taken to hunting the disciples of Anders down (not Anders because he's dead in all my DA2 saves) because he would be p***ed at what Anders did. My dwarven casteless warden would probably be elsewhere in Thedas performing heroic deeds for The Maker. My templar warden would be sleeping soundly in his grave and my dwarven noble warden will be rubbing his hands together thinking "how can I exploit this situation and what side will pay more?"

My other wardens? They'd all want to be involved in what is going on for one reason or another.

A cameo of the warden? Maybe you see him/her with The Grey Wardens (who are maybe trying to clear things up just like The Inquistor) but you see him/her from afar in Grey Warden armor with a helmet on and don't get to speak to him/her. Later you hear how the Warden successfully completed some major operation or something thus making them still sound like they're doing important things in the world.

Hawke? You discover him/her in a bar getting drunk with drunk Alistair (if he was exiled in your save, otherwise he's getting drunk with Oghren).

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 23 septembre 2012 - 01:03 .

[MKDAWUSS]

My Warden doesn't really care about the Mage-Templar War. He wouldn't have cared about Uldred's Rebellion if it wasn't for the fact that the Grey Warden Treaties included the Circle of Magi, and that Ferelden needed one less distraction during a major crisis such as the Fereldan Civil War and the 5th Blight.

The rumored Orlesian-Ferelden War, on the other hand...

[raw6666]

I think we need to broaden our approach. Like what specific conflict your warden would get involve in the mage-templar war and orlesian civil war.
For instance, it obvious the qunari will get involve, invading thedas while their biggest threat is away. After all, the mages were the reason they were push back and with the mages busy fighting the templars, I leave with that image.
We also have the Dalish who will take advantage of the land grab or even join up with the mages to fight the templars for their own portection or for tomes of their people the circles would have.
The dwarves would protect their lyrium from the rebles or tempalrs.
Finally, the slavers and blood mages from Tevinter would try to use the war to rebuild their imperium, even fighting the templars and rebel mages.
So a better question, would your warden be involve in any conflict?
Mine, while a mage would just be focusing in helping refuges on her travels.