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Why should my Warden care about conflicts that don't concern him? When he became a Warden, it became his life, his goel being simple: Fight the Darkspawn, help people wdefend against the darkspawn, explore the deep roads ect. He has no interest in the mage/templar conflict, so him being angry would be very OOC.

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

horacethegrey wrote...

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the Warden may be just a little bit angry at the way events have unfolded since the Blight ended. I mean, he/she spent the majority of his/her first weeks as a Warden raising an army to fight the Darkspawn, who are driven back to the Deep Roads when the Warden slays the Archdemon (Dragon Age: Origins). Then he/she journeys to Amaranthine to fulfill her duty to the Order by commanding Vigil's Keep. The Warden then fights off another host of Darkspawn and can choose to strike a deal with the Architect so that the Blight never happens again (Dragon Age: Awakening). All in all, it's not been a rosy time for the Warden, but I think he/she can congratulate themselves in fighting the good fight and helping bring a spot of peace in Thedas...

...Only to see it crumble 7 years later when a former recruit (Anders) of his/hers commits a henious act of terrorism that sparks a bloody Mage and Templar conflict. I don't know about you, but my Warden would be pretty pissed off at the state Thedas is in now.


Mine would be thinking "balls to this! Alistair, grab your things... let's leave this one to the Inquistior!"

... But seriously though, I hope she's not gonna get killed off or Alistair for that matter. I'd prefer them to either die together or (preferably) not at all! 

Well, Alistair and the Warden can't live very long, so we know that they will die a painful death eventually. :?


Is everyone forgetting the blood mage Warden who is 300+ years old? my Warden allowed him to continue research into the benifits of the taint.

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My Warden wants to remove Hawke's head from his shoulders for releasing Corypheus knowingly or not, and for helping Anders start his war knowingly or not.

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Mr.House wrote...

Why should my Warden care about conflicts that don't concern him? When he became a Warden, it became his life, his goel being simple: Fight the Darkspawn, help people wdefend against the darkspawn, explore the deep roads ect. He has no interest in the mage/templar conflict, so him being angry would be very OOC.

You forget a good number of the Grey Warden's troops are appostate mages and other forces that don't pray to Andraste. You think a rogue zelous are going to ignore them, or attack small order to get these undiserables. The Grey Wardens would have to get involve to protect their own members.

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horacethegrey wrote...

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the Warden may be just a little bit angry at the way events have unfolded since the Blight ended. I mean, he/she spent the majority of his/her first weeks as a Warden raising an army to fight the Darkspawn, who are driven back to the Deep Roads when the Warden slays the Archdemon (Dragon Age: Origins). Then he/she journeys to Amaranthine to fulfill her duty to the Order by commanding Vigil's Keep. The Warden then fights off another host of Darkspawn and can choose to strike a deal with the Architect so that the Blight never happens again (Dragon Age: Awakening). All in all, it's not been a rosy time for the Warden, but I think he/she can congratulate themselves in fighting the good fight and helping bring a spot of peace in Thedas...

...Only to see it crumble 7 years later when a former recruit (Anders) of his/hers commits a henious act of terrorism that sparks a bloody Mage and Templar conflict. I don't know about you, but my Warden would be pretty pissed off at the state Thedas is in now.


I suppose it depends on The Warden. As my Surana Warden asked for his people to be emancipated from the Chantry, my Warden believes the mages deserve their autonomy from the Chantry and the Order of Templars. Attacking an institution that he despised and blamed for sacking the homeland of his people for religious intolerance (as he said at Ostagar) probably wouldn't upset him. He did tell Wynne the mages needed to break free from the Chantry in the City of Amaranthine).

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

horacethegrey wrote...

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the Warden may be just a little bit angry at the way events have unfolded since the Blight ended. I mean, he/she spent the majority of his/her first weeks as a Warden raising an army to fight the Darkspawn, who are driven back to the Deep Roads when the Warden slays the Archdemon (Dragon Age: Origins). Then he/she journeys to Amaranthine to fulfill her duty to the Order by commanding Vigil's Keep. The Warden then fights off another host of Darkspawn and can choose to strike a deal with the Architect so that the Blight never happens again (Dragon Age: Awakening). All in all, it's not been a rosy time for the Warden, but I think he/she can congratulate themselves in fighting the good fight and helping bring a spot of peace in Thedas...

...Only to see it crumble 7 years later when a former recruit (Anders) of his/hers commits a henious act of terrorism that sparks a bloody Mage and Templar conflict. I don't know about you, but my Warden would be pretty pissed off at the state Thedas is in now.


Mine would be thinking "balls to this! Alistair, grab your things... let's leave this one to the Inquistior!"

... But seriously though, I hope she's not gonna get killed off or Alistair for that matter. I'd prefer them to either die together or (preferably) not at all! 

Well, Alistair and the Warden can't live very long, so we know that they will die a painful death eventually. :?


Do we though?  wasn't there a mage researcher at soldiers peak that was looking into removing the death sentence from the wardens taint? 

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Warrior Craess wrote...

Do we though?  wasn't there a mage researcher at soldiers peak that was looking into removing the death sentence from the wardens taint? 


Avernus knew blood magic and manipulated his taint, slowing down the ghoulification process as the taint makes Wardens immortal, living only 30 years or less until they become ghouls, which is why they go to the Calling to die before that happens. Presumably, a blood mage Warden could live centuries without succumbing to the taint by following the same process as Avernus, and my Surana Warden was a blood mage who spared Avernus.

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My Queen was goddamn livid when she found out; she would have kicked the crap outta Anders as soon as she heard about him melding with Justice but she had loads of crap to do ie Warn the empress of Orlais to not start sh!t or she'll burn her fancy city down. Hey, she's had a few stressful years....

Though I wanna know why she up and left. Well I suppose Alastair did go off with Varric to do some stuff and met another daughter of Flemeth so the Queen could doing something like that?

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My Warden actually has Ser Pounce Alot and sends Anders a text message of him with the cat and a "come at me brah" in the caption. The cat was always mine anyways. I just let him borrow it.

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Yeah, I'm sure somewhere wherever my queen Warden is running around with whatever "gift" Morrigan gave her in Witch Hunt that requires her to abandon Fereldan and go missing is kind of pissed at Anders.

First apostate I help sleeps with my then-fiance, second apostate I help starts a world war....*sigh*...mages...

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LobselVith8 wrote...

Warrior Craess wrote...

Do we though?  wasn't there a mage researcher at soldiers peak that was looking into removing the death sentence from the wardens taint? 


Avernus knew blood magic and manipulated his taint, slowing down the ghoulification process as the taint makes Wardens immortal, living only 30 years or less until they become ghouls, which is why they go to the Calling to die before that happens. Presumably, a blood mage Warden could live centuries without succumbing to the taint by following the same process as Avernus, and my Surana Warden was a blood mage who spared Avernus.


My point was that you can tell Avernus to continue his research. Who knows what they could have found? 

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My Warden would outright hate and despise Anders for what he did.

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My Warden is currently chilling in Mirrorland.

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<---- My Warden "maybe" gives a crap about the current state of Thedas. I think she reached a point where she did so much and got screwed in the end (darkspawn taint = short livespawn). So she gladly stepped aside for others like Hawke and the Inquisitor to pick up the pieces and be the heroes.

Unless Thedas reaches some sort of apocalyptic end, she'll be wandering with Alistair until she becomes a necessity again. :D

Also I think she would be very dissappointed by Anders' actions but would probably be more understanding if she had a chance to speak with him.

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I'd rather DA3 leave the Warden out entirely, so people can happily imagine their Warden's fate uninterrupted from the games and the books.

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My Wardens all hate the Chantry and would applaud Anders for blowing Elthina straight to the void. My Wardens were always of the opinion that the mages would eventually have to resort to violence if they wanted to see any lasting change.

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My Wardens all hate the Chantry and would applaud Anders for blowing Elthina straight to the void. My Wardens were always of the opinion that the mages would eventually have to resort to violence if they wanted to see any lasting change.


This, but my Dalish warden would gladly chop off Merrills and Hawkes head, after all they killed his clan.

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Warden's are outside of the buisness of the regular world, so they shouldnt care about the war really, their concern is the darkspawn. That being said, when it comes to Kirkwall, I would like for the mages to burn as they are jsut proving that mages will turn to demons and all kinds evil magic, and the templars for being plain idiots (that being said, there are morereasonable templars then reasonable mages in DA2, and I hate Orsino way more then Meredith.)

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My Cousland Warden is dead. His Orlesian replacement is only concerned about the Darkspawn, but would intervene in world politics if it affected his fight against the Darkspawn.

My Tabris Warden would probably help the Chantry try to recover, doing whatever she could to aid the Divine without shirking her duties. She'd be pretty disappointed in Anders.

My Aeducan Warden would chalk it up to mages being mages (as they always cause problems) but wouldn't take much note since those are surfacer problems and he's been back living up the Paragon's life in Orzammar after solving Amaranthine's problems.

And my Mahariel Warden doesn't give a crap since she could care less about anyone who isn't Dalish. Let the other nations rip themselves apart - better opportunity for the elves to reclaim lands that were lost and reestablish a kingdom of their own.

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Shea is just sort of wondering why he's disappeared rather than planning what to do about the Orlesians, the Chantry and the Templars with Anora. Husbands shouldn't run off all the time, hmph.

Otherwise, he very much approves, since he's pro-mage and anti-Chantry and indeed more likely to plan how to best take advantage of this while helping to liberate the mages. And preparing things for whatever Morrigan has planned and whatever destiny his son has.

Though he'd probably be worried about Leliana, since, even if she chose the other side, he still cares about her as a very good friend (and sort of but not really ex-girlfriend).

But I wouldn't be particularly broken up if he never shows up again. I'd rather that than have him end up being completely OOC.

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There's a lot of assumption that DA3 won't have anything to do with the darkspawn. My disappeared warden(s) in peace are always vigilant.

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This is really interesting, but i have to say no matter what you become, you can not forget the people that help you along the way. the reason why i think the warden would care about the conflict is because you have to remember its all about how you played your story and if you help the Templars restored peace in the tower at the same time saving the mages, to them you are the balance life line they both need. if you killed all the mages too ah well, the rest of the mages will see you as a threat. either way the warden is force into the middle no matter what.

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horacethegrey wrote...

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the Warden may be just a little bit angry at the way events have unfolded since the Blight ended. I mean, he/she spent the majority of his/her first weeks as a Warden raising an army to fight the Darkspawn, who are driven back to the Deep Roads when the Warden slays the Archdemon (Dragon Age: Origins). Then he/she journeys to Amaranthine to fulfill her duty to the Order by commanding Vigil's Keep. The Warden then fights off another host of Darkspawn and can choose to strike a deal with the Architect so that the Blight never happens again (Dragon Age: Awakening). All in all, it's not been a rosy time for the Warden, but I think he/she can congratulate themselves in fighting the good fight and helping bring a spot of peace in Thedas...

...Only to see it crumble 7 years later when a former recruit (Anders) of his/hers commits a henious act of terrorism that sparks a bloody Mage and Templar conflict. I don't know about you, but my Warden would be pretty pissed off at the state Thedas is in now.


For all the roleplaying and call for customisation of your charecter

You really think all or most wardens would look at events in the same way.

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Glad to see at least SOME wardens care, but for the rest of you...sheesh you guys are lazy. The world is collapsing around you and you're just going to let yourself be swept away? Some heroes you guys were...

I personally believe my berserking reaver greatsword city elf is going to charge headfirst in to this fray and kill it before it kills anybody else. And yes, he's a black guy, I didn't think there was enough of those where elves were concerned.

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horacethegrey wrote...

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the Warden may be just a little bit angry at the way events have unfolded since the Blight ended. I mean, he/she spent the majority of his/her first weeks as a Warden raising an army to fight the Darkspawn, who are driven back to the Deep Roads when the Warden slays the Archdemon (Dragon Age: Origins). Then he/she journeys to Amaranthine to fulfill her duty to the Order by commanding Vigil's Keep. The Warden then fights off another host of Darkspawn and can choose to strike a deal with the Architect so that the Blight never happens again (Dragon Age: Awakening). All in all, it's not been a rosy time for the Warden, but I think he/she can congratulate themselves in fighting the good fight and helping bring a spot of peace in Thedas...

...Only to see it crumble 7 years later when a former recruit (Anders) of his/hers commits a henious act of terrorism that sparks a bloody Mage and Templar conflict. I don't know about you, but my Warden would be pretty pissed off at the state Thedas is in now.


Hope does defeating the darkspawn ever create a hope for peace in Thedas? I don't remember solving any of the non-national human conflict, and all the internal conflict in Fereldan sprung back into effect as soon as the blight ended.

Anyway, my warden is in Anitiva doing her wardning things and fully intent on not saving the world anymore. After all she only has a limitied of one or two decade life time left and is intent of enyoing them with her lover. besides being a mage she cheers the war on, (as long as she is not forced to do anything her self it is all good for her).