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Alikain wrote...

This is really interesting, but i have to say no matter what you become, you can not forget the people that help you along the way. the reason why i think the warden would care about the conflict is because you have to remember its all about how you played your story and if you help the Templars restored peace in the tower at the same time saving the mages, to them you are the balance life line they both need. if you killed all the mages too ah well, the rest of the mages will see you as a threat. either way the warden is force into the middle no matter what.

My warden also asked for a boon of freeing the circle. it was aptly ignored by the Chantry, so no. she is not in the middle or in the balance. If a templar comes close to her, with the current war going on, she would kill said templar on sight just to get them to leave.

[Reaverwind]

Ultimashade wrote...

Glad to see at least SOME wardens care, but for the rest of you...sheesh you guys are lazy. The world is collapsing around you and you're just going to let yourself be swept away? Some heroes you guys were...

I personally believe my berserking reaver greatsword city elf is going to charge headfirst in to this fray and kill it before it kills anybody else. And yes, he's a black guy, I didn't think there was enough of those where elves were concerned.

Those idiot mages can clean up their own damned mess, for a change. The Wardens are already dealing with the first one.

[Montana]

My warden is somewhere with Morrigan and their child.
He's currently busy with not giving a **** about the conflict.

His job was to stop the blight, and after that he retired from being the hero, let someone else solve this one.

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

One of my many wardens would not be happy but would leave it for someone else to take care of, she's done her part of the bargin. She is with the other wardens, Alistair and Bethanny, her cousin, somewhere cursing Anders because now they are going to come after her and every other mage. She does understand that no matter what, this conflict would happen but why did Anders have to go all bat**** and blow up the Chantry just to make a point. My other wardens could care less since they are with the love of their life.

Modifié par Rpgfantasyplayer, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:22 .

[Palipride47]

I like how most of us can say MY Warden would do this/this/this, this is why DA is awesome....we have headcanons.

[Todd23]

My Warden would TRY to get Crow and Qunari support for the war while setting in seeds to free the slaves in Tevinter.

[Wynne]

 

horacethegrey wrote...

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the Warden may be just a little bit angry at the way events have unfolded since the Blight ended. I mean, he/she spent the majority of his/her first weeks as a Warden raising an army to fight the Darkspawn, who are driven back to the Deep Roads when the Warden slays the Archdemon (Dragon Age: Origins). Then he/she journeys to Amaranthine to fulfill her duty to the Order by commanding Vigil's Keep. The Warden then fights off another host of Darkspawn and can choose to strike a deal with the Architect so that the Blight never happens again (Dragon Age: Awakening). All in all, it's not been a rosy time for the Warden, but I think he/she can congratulate themselves in fighting the good fight and helping bring a spot of peace in Thedas...

...Only to see it crumble 7 years later when a former recruit (Anders) of his/hers commits a henious act of terrorism that sparks a bloody Mage and Templar conflict. I don't know about you, but my Warden would be pretty pissed off at the state Thedas is in now.

 Very interesting. That would certainly be the case for a lot of the still-living Wardens. I like the way you think. 

AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

Well they should at least let us know what happened to the warden!

You can know what happened to the Warden by not choosing the God Baby ending or bringing Alistair to the endgame.  The Warden is a very heroic pile of ashes. Voila, closure.

That is the flipside of all those "the Warden is whoever you want the Warden to be!" arguments. 

And for the Wardens who aren't dead, why would you want to see them when it won't fit your imagination anyway? Just take the "walk into the sunset" deal and imagine whatever you want.

Most people would probably be very unhappy if the Warden's story ended in a way they didn't imagine--it's a no-win situation. I don't see why Bioware would ever address it. This way, everyone cries "But I don't know what happened!" but at least they still have some form of choice. Otherwise, it's like, "But my Warden didn't look like that/sound like that/act like that/wouldn't be doing that!" I can almost hear the caterwauling now. Seriously, it's no-win.

I'd rather hear the former than the latter, if it were me. 

Modifié par Wynne, 25 septembre 2012 - 10:41 .

[unbentbuzzkill]

everything in life is technically a no win situation in life your never going to get a 100% of the vote, so imo that's not even a reason to not try just a excuse.

[JellyBean28]

This definitely depends on which of my wardens you were talking to.

My main warden, married to her lover-boy King, would wish she was the one to kill the dumb *** mage who went and started this crap. She'd also very much care about what is happening to Thedas because, yes, she would be pissed that all of her hard work at trying to bring some peace did absolutely nothing in the end and she'd worry what she could do to fix the conflicts so Ferelden doesn't continue to suffer. Disappearing into thin air isn't something she'd do if she had a choice in the matter...
My mage warden would be on the run with her cousin, Hawke, and his lover, Anders, and only caring enough to kill every nearby templar.
My other wardens are dead, rolling their eyes at all of the stupidity alongside the Maker.

Modifié par JellyBean28, 25 septembre 2012 - 11:29 .

[a12boom]

I would be angry too. My Human Noble, Dalish Elf, and Noble Dwarf survived the blight to see it come down to this...

[unbentbuzzkill]

they'll probably just ignore the warden and hawke and just mention then in rumors in da3, i'm guessing all those hours of playing DA:O was just a waste of time because i don't see a pay off at this moment for buying DA3.

[Gabbenator8787]

Considering the vast majority of my wardens have either sacrificed themselves at the end of DAO or have retired to some remote corner of the world with either Morrigan or Leliana, their relevance in DA3 is pretty much close to none.

I very much doubt the Warden character will even get anything other than a small mention. Considering the varieties in appearence, fate and background, does anybody honestly believe Bioware is even going to incorprate the main character of DA1 into the third game??

Modifié par Gabbenator8787, 26 septembre 2012 - 06:39 .

[Gabbenator8787]

Most people would probably be very unhappy if the Warden's story ended in a way they didn't imagine--it's a no-win situation. I don't see why Bioware would ever address it. This way, everyone cries "But I don't know what happened!" but at least they still have some form of choice. Otherwise, it's like, "But my Warden didn't look like that/sound like that/act like that/wouldn't be doing that!" I can almost hear the caterwauling now. Seriously, it's no-win.

I'd rather hear the former than the latter, if it were me. 

Agreed 100 percent

[Mike3207]

I'm still trying to figure out how my Warden disappeared from the castle in Denerim.

[Wizardkon Hatiif]

AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

They need to have the warden in this game in some shape or form. You can't just assume he disappeared and leave it at that.

Yeah all except my Warden as he went with his family, through the mirror. In the Witch Hunt. But maybe he can return as the main badie.

[Plaintiff]

Ultimashade wrote...

Glad to see at least SOME wardens care, but for the rest of you...sheesh you guys are lazy. The world is collapsing around you and you're just going to let yourself be swept away? Some heroes you guys were...

I personally believe my berserking reaver greatsword city elf is going to charge headfirst in to this fray and kill it before it kills anybody else. And yes, he's a black guy, I didn't think there was enough of those where elves were concerned.

Wardens are supposed to mind their own damn business. If it ain't darkspawn, it ain't their problem.

[ElazaraDawn]

 Okay I know this may sound a bit far-fetched but IMO I think this should be seperate just like DA2. They shouldn't let us know what happened to our other characters from DA:O/A/DA2. This should be a differnt character altogether maybe even the First Warden. Then atthe end have THIS character disappear as well.

Then in the next game make it where ever these characters have hidden/been taken. Have it them optional to play as any of our three past characters, or for those lame asses who haven't played base it after a series of "main choices, like the hero, martyr, etc...

Just my opinion but I always thought that's be cool. Then you know you have to assume that if you romanced someone from a past game they would be there too assuming they didn't die  or wasn't the king. 

[Shadow Fox]

Plaintiff wrote...

Ultimashade wrote...

Glad to see at least SOME wardens care, but for the rest of you...sheesh you guys are lazy. The world is collapsing around you and you're just going to let yourself be swept away? Some heroes you guys were...

I personally believe my berserking reaver greatsword city elf is going to charge headfirst in to this fray and kill it before it kills anybody else. And yes, he's a black guy, I didn't think there was enough of those where elves were concerned.

Wardens are supposed to mind their own damn business. If it ain't darkspawn, it ain't their problem.

And when they don't it tends to get very ugly*Sophia Dryden*.

[Sharn01]

My male dalish rogue warden went through the mirror with Morrigan to have happy time with her and see his kid, so the story made sense in DA2 for him.

My female elven Mage warden, I am not sure what happened to her. Apparently she got dumped by Leliana some time after the events of the game and went into hiding for no reason.

[raw6666]

Plaintiff wrote...

Ultimashade wrote...

Glad to see at least SOME wardens care, but for the rest of you...sheesh you guys are lazy. The world is collapsing around you and you're just going to let yourself be swept away? Some heroes you guys were...

I personally believe my berserking reaver greatsword city elf is going to charge headfirst in to this fray and kill it before it kills anybody else. And yes, he's a black guy, I didn't think there was enough of those where elves were concerned.

Wardens are supposed to mind their own damn business. If it ain't darkspawn, it ain't their problem.

Can the Wardens ignore this? They depend on magic to recruit new wardens, a huge number of them are mages that were either appostates or mages out of Templar control and finally the Wardens have treaties with forces that would be considered enemies of the templars. Including not only the Circle of Magi, but the Dalish Elves as well and possibly the dwarves of orzamar. I mean, why would they stop with just the mages and continue on to bring justice to the corrupt, the wicked and the disbelievers of the chantry.

[Plaintiff]

raw6666 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Ultimashade wrote...

Glad to see at least SOME wardens care, but for the rest of you...sheesh you guys are lazy. The world is collapsing around you and you're just going to let yourself be swept away? Some heroes you guys were...

I personally believe my berserking reaver greatsword city elf is going to charge headfirst in to this fray and kill it before it kills anybody else. And yes, he's a black guy, I didn't think there was enough of those where elves were concerned.

Wardens are supposed to mind their own damn business. If it ain't darkspawn, it ain't their problem.

Can the Wardens ignore this? They depend on magic to recruit new wardens, a huge number of them are mages that were either appostates or mages out of Templar control and finally the Wardens have treaties with forces that would be considered enemies of the templars. Including not only the Circle of Magi, but the Dalish Elves as well and possibly the dwarves of orzamar. I mean, why would they stop with just the mages and continue on to bring justice to the corrupt, the wicked and the disbelievers of the chantry.

Well I don't actually support the notion of such a powerful group just ignoring every other problem going on in the world. You bring up some good points. The Chantry and Templars are also sworn to keep out of warden business, but they've been willing to ignore that fact before.

[raw6666]

Plaintiff wrote...

raw6666 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Ultimashade wrote...

Glad to see at least SOME wardens care, but for the rest of you...sheesh you guys are lazy. The world is collapsing around you and you're just going to let yourself be swept away? Some heroes you guys were...

I personally believe my berserking reaver greatsword city elf is going to charge headfirst in to this fray and kill it before it kills anybody else. And yes, he's a black guy, I didn't think there was enough of those where elves were concerned.

Wardens are supposed to mind their own damn business. If it ain't darkspawn, it ain't their problem.

Can the Wardens ignore this? They depend on magic to recruit new wardens, a huge number of them are mages that were either appostates or mages out of Templar control and finally the Wardens have treaties with forces that would be considered enemies of the templars. Including not only the Circle of Magi, but the Dalish Elves as well and possibly the dwarves of orzamar. I mean, why would they stop with just the mages and continue on to bring justice to the corrupt, the wicked and the disbelievers of the chantry.

Well I don't actually support the notion of such a powerful group just ignoring every other problem going on in the world. You bring up some good points. The Chantry and Templars are also sworn to keep out of warden business, but they've been willing to ignore that fact before.

Actually, it was the chantry that made the deal and the templars have broken away from the chantry and nulify all the treaties they had with them.
Plus the leader of the templars is radical in that he attack a meeting of the first enchanters after agreeing not to go to war and the events lead to war between the mages and the templars after the enchanters escape after losing half their memebers and Nevera was hit with the Right of Annulment for taking in the survivors of Kirkwill and other places.

[BlueMagitek]

Unfortunately, I don't believe Surana had a unique reference in DA 2, so I have to assume he's off true neutralling with Branwen?

[LobselVith8]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Unfortunately, I don't believe Surana had a unique reference in DA 2, so I have to assume he's off true neutralling with Branwen?

Considering that Surana can condemn the Chantry controlled Circles, ask for his people to be given their independence, and advocate to Wynne for all the Circles to break free, it's not unrealistic for the pro-mage Surana to get involved in non-Warden business (like he did for both post-Origin DLCs); after all, he could put Alistair on the throne, turn the Hero of River Dane into a Warden, and become the Arl of Amaranthine.

I'd imagine the mages might seek him out to lead them, given his leadership skills and battle experience.