I remember a ME3 dev commenting that they considered it, but it was very, very expensive and that the resources would be better used somewhere else. Do we need it? No. Personally, I think that the money would be better deployed in the story/character development/gameplay.
But I wouldn't dislike it.
DA3 could use some destructible enviroments
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#28
Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 12:05
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Throwing a fireball into a hut and blowing it up, sounds fun. Has anything like that ever been done in an rpg before?
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 12:26
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lol:DDarth Death wrote...
Dragonfield 3?
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 12:49
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I hope this works on a grand scale a la Anders/V for Vendetta.
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 01:03
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I can see engine handled destructible environments being useful in designing cutscenes but I have reservations on how it can be applied gameplay wise with a game like Dragon Age. It seems very applicable to mages but I don't see how a warrior or rogue would benefit from destructible environments much.
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 01:06
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Rogues could use bombs, I suppose. Not sure what Warrors could do. Shield bash walls and doors? Or use a maul to do it?
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 01:07
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Dhiro wrote...
I remember a ME3 dev commenting that they considered it, but it was very, very expensive and that the resources would be better used somewhere else. Do we need it? No. Personally, I think that the money would be better deployed in the story/character development/gameplay.
But I wouldn't dislike it.
Well, in ME3 that would mean adding it in to the UE3 engine. Frostbite 2 already has that in its toolbox.
From what I understand. It's likely I am oversimplifying.
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 01:13
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No it dosnt.
the key to being a gamer.is not to lose your imagination,if anything it grows and becomes a richer tool in your life.
with that said.it seems the players have lost a major part of themselfs ah well
the key to being a gamer.is not to lose your imagination,if anything it grows and becomes a richer tool in your life.
with that said.it seems the players have lost a major part of themselfs ah well
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 01:15
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Don\\ t think they mean to use the engine the same way as Battlefield does, though. I think it just fits as the best option for what they are planning. DA3 doesn`t even have to have destructable enviroments at all.
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 01:16
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Is it needed? I do not belive so but it would be nice.
Even if it is allread in the toolbox those encounters would need to be designed with it in mind. Someone says "destructible enviroments" I start thinking Red Faction or X-men Legends.
Are we knocking down walls as we see fit? Can I use that table to throw at the enemies?
Those barrels. Do we know what is in them just by sight? Are they explosive? A poison of some sort? Or is it like red dust that can help or harm them?
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Dhiro wrote...
I remember a ME3 dev commenting that they considered it, but it was very, very expensive and that the resources would be better used somewhere else. Do we need it? No. Personally, I think that the money would be better deployed in the story/character development/gameplay.
But I wouldn't dislike it.
Well, in ME3 that would mean adding it in to the UE3 engine. Frostbite 2 already has that in its toolbox.
From what I understand. It's likely I am oversimplifying.
Even if it is allread in the toolbox those encounters would need to be designed with it in mind. Someone says "destructible enviroments" I start thinking Red Faction or X-men Legends.
Are we knocking down walls as we see fit? Can I use that table to throw at the enemies?
Those barrels. Do we know what is in them just by sight? Are they explosive? A poison of some sort? Or is it like red dust that can help or harm them?
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Posté 20 septembre 2012 - 11:50
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Red barrels explode,Green barrels poison and Yellow barrels slow enemies speed:D but i just think it would be a cool feature.Not everything has to react to when our character is knocking bad guys out just a few things like in Skyrim.addiction21 wrote...
Is it needed? I do not belive so but it would be nice.Upsettingshorts wrote...
Dhiro wrote...
I remember a ME3 dev commenting that they considered it, but it was very, very expensive and that the resources would be better used somewhere else. Do we need it? No. Personally, I think that the money would be better deployed in the story/character development/gameplay.
But I wouldn't dislike it.
Well, in ME3 that would mean adding it in to the UE3 engine. Frostbite 2 already has that in its toolbox.
From what I understand. It's likely I am oversimplifying.
Even if it is allread in the toolbox those encounters would need to be designed with it in mind. Someone says "destructible enviroments" I start thinking Red Faction or X-men Legends.
Are we knocking down walls as we see fit? Can I use that table to throw at the enemies?
Those barrels. Do we know what is in them just by sight? Are they explosive? A poison of some sort? Or is it like red dust that can help or harm them?
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 07:32
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Go one:lol: but gears did not have enviromental damageRawgrim wrote...
Gears of Wardens 3
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 08:23
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Cerainly something that can be done to add to the tactical combat. But it's nothing that NEEDS to be done.
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 08:32
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I think something like that would be cool with the Qunari Invasion(when it happens that is)...
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 08:50
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PizzaThe Hutt wrote...
I think something like that would be cool with the Qunari Invasion(when it happens that is)...
Qunari naval invasion + destructible environments.
That would be pretty damn awesome. Not at all sure how workable this is though, or if the trade-off is worth it, but definitely on my list of highly desired things.
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 09:24
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I should change it to "could use destructible environments" lol
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 09:36
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I've been hoping for just this for years. Something similar to UFO: enemy Unknown. (= Bad guys are in 2nd floor of the house. Xzar shoot fireball through window in 1st floor. House catches on fire. Eventually roof and 2nd floor come crashing down,no more bad guys.Smoke and chaos. good times!
That is exactly how it was environment behaved in UFO. It is mildly deprssing that game released in 1993 still has by far most
credible and satisfying implementation of destructible environment. This
is one of those million things where any and all AAA games have been in
complete, utter stand still for decades now.
So yeaah, never going to happen for DA3. Or any other game:l Not in environment that isn't turn based. Too time consuming and difficult to design and implement I suspect. Not to mention too taxing for hardware. Specially since significant portion gamers seem to insist on playing their games on consoles released at some point during final centuries of Neolitic Age.
I'd wager at most we get sligtly more sophisticated version of " hit a barrel. barrel breaks. woho." Ie model used on Diablo 3 and most FPS games. At best it can give a passing impression of environment actually responding to your actions. Still, it is clear for everyone it is smoke and mirrors at best.
That is exactly how it was environment behaved in UFO. It is mildly deprssing that game released in 1993 still has by far most
credible and satisfying implementation of destructible environment. This
is one of those million things where any and all AAA games have been in
complete, utter stand still for decades now.
So yeaah, never going to happen for DA3. Or any other game:l Not in environment that isn't turn based. Too time consuming and difficult to design and implement I suspect. Not to mention too taxing for hardware. Specially since significant portion gamers seem to insist on playing their games on consoles released at some point during final centuries of Neolitic Age.
I'd wager at most we get sligtly more sophisticated version of " hit a barrel. barrel breaks. woho." Ie model used on Diablo 3 and most FPS games. At best it can give a passing impression of environment actually responding to your actions. Still, it is clear for everyone it is smoke and mirrors at best.
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:27
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A few area's is all DA3 needs for Strategic planning for your partyLTD wrote...
I've been hoping for just this for years. Something similar to UFO: enemy Unknown. (= Bad guys are in 2nd floor of the house. Xzar shoot fireball through window in 1st floor. House catches on fire. Eventually roof and 2nd floor come crashing down,no more bad guys.Smoke and chaos. good times!
That is exactly how it was environment behaved in UFO. It is mildly deprssing that game released in 1993 still has by far most
credible and satisfying implementation of destructible environment. This
is one of those million things where any and all AAA games have been in
complete, utter stand still for decades now.
So yeaah, never going to happen for DA3. Or any other game:l Not in environment that isn't turn based. Too time consuming and difficult to design and implement I suspect. Not to mention too taxing for hardware. Specially since significant portion gamers seem to insist on playing their games on consoles released at some point during final centuries of Neolitic Age.
I'd wager at most we get sligtly more sophisticated version of " hit a barrel. barrel breaks. woho." Ie model used on Diablo 3 and most FPS games. At best it can give a passing impression of environment actually responding to your actions. Still, it is clear for everyone it is smoke and mirrors at best.
