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[Rawgrim]

Realmzmaster wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Realmzmaster wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Its more "in your face" in DA2. And when they go completely overboard with it in cutscenes as well, its alot harder to ignore. Talis leaping 70 backwards through the air was just cringeworthy.

You mean like warriors jumping10 feet or more in the air in heavy armor during the kill animation for the ogre?

Its more like 5-6 feet, stab, then kind of hoist up abit via the sword. 70 backwards and up from a standstill position is still alot worse than 10 with some running start behind it.

When I saw Talis do that backflip, it made me feel like the whole quest was just an utter waste of time. She could have just solved the whole thing alone with 1-2 jumps in 1 minute. The whole scene was beyond silly. Every hint of immersion just vanished.

No she could not because she first has to get to that moment. Without Hawke she never gets there even if the Duke was laying a trap. Is it over the top? Probably, but so is a Ranger in DAO calling a Great Bear in the Deep Roads.

Summoning has allways been stupid in games.

Ok picture it this way then. You step in dog****. This you can live with. its annoying, sure. Or you get a truckload of dog**** dumped all over your face. Abit worse that one, isn`t it?

The immersion breaking bits in DA:O paled when compared to DA2.

[TEWR]

Well, truth be told I don't actually care about people that want to kill Tallis. Frankly, I agree with whykikyouwhy's earlier post, that including it in DA3 for the sake of its lack of presence to attempt such in DA2 would be pointless.

It wasn't until I read it on the previous page that I realized that was whykikyouwhy's real stance on the matter of the issues with Tallis, with MotA's ending being the secondary concern.

So in actuality, it appears I missed the point =/.

And yes, I am obsessed with it lol. But it's just because I abhor lazy writing, which is what MotA's anti-Qunari ending was to me.

[MagmaSaiyan]

i just dont get it,(sigh) im playing an evil dwarf yet still dont have the mindset to kill any of my companions

[Cultist]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Why should the DA3 protagonist be able to do what an anti-Qunari Hawke should've attempted to do -- whether he/she succeeded is really irrelevant to what he/she should've attempted to do -- right from the get-go when he/she learns about the details of the list?

Because s\\he is a mage and don't want to be coralled and his\\her mouth to be sewn shut?

[TEWR]

Maybe, but I wouldn't enjoy it much. Not because I don't think the PC should be able to attempt to go down an anti-Qunari path, but because it'd just make MotA's ending seem even worse, IMO. Someone has to pick up Hawke's slack, rendering him an ineffectual hero even more then he already is -- which... would be saying something.

Now, as I've said, I don't wish Tallis dead nor do I hate her character. And given what Bioware did in MotA -- very badly, as I've said... oh, about 30 times now lol -- they obviously want her to be important for the imminent Qunari invasion they're planning, or at least strongly hinting at but will end up not doing just to mess with us.

Based on her general character arc, I'd say she's going to go Tal'Vashoth.

In which case, killing her for anything in MotA would be absurd, unless she was acting as a double agent.

Frankly, I wouldn't support the option to kill Tallis in DA3 simply because I don't know what Bioware has planned for her. Yet. For all I know, more information in the future may reveal something. Supposedly, there's another Qunari companion in DA3. If it's Tallis, then if I do play an anti-Qunari person -- which would be a first for me -- I wouldn't mind wiping her off the planet, simply to stay in character.

What I do support -- and want -- is just for Bioware to say "We dun' goofed on MotA's anti-Qunari ending". That's it.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 21 septembre 2012 - 06:27 .

[thats1evildude]

Rojahar wrote...

You could leave Sten to die. You weren't FORCED to free him. Even if you did free him, you weren't forced to admire him or even help him in any of his personal goals. You could even argue against his beliefs.

PPFFFFFT. You can't talk to Sten in Lothering without someone making the point that we should totally recruit this awesome mass murderer into our party and give him cookies. And when he turns on you, all you can do is beat him up and tell him to leave. And even if you don't get him his sword, Sten still returns to Seheron.

I wanted to KILL Sten, not argue with him or send him on his merry way. I can't knife him in his cage, I can't slit his throat while he sleeps and I can't shove a sword through his heart in Haven.

I can kill Leliana, Wynne, Zevran, Shale, Dog, Oghren and even Alistair, if you recommend he be executed. But no, not Sten, ANYONE but Sten. All he did was murder a bunch of innocent people and act like a total ass the entire journey. Why, that practically warrants a medal of honour in Thedas!

Modifié par thats1evildude, 21 septembre 2012 - 07:34 .

[Augustei]

YES! I wont be comfortable in the DA universe knowing someone like Tallis is alive so let met kill her. And please dear god don't just try to make her appeal to me more because that will just make me want to kill her more

[Uccio]

Cultist wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Why should the DA3 protagonist be able to do what an anti-Qunari Hawke should've attempted to do -- whether he/she succeeded is really irrelevant to what he/she should've attempted to do -- right from the get-go when he/she learns about the details of the list?

Because she is a mage and don't want to be coralled and hisher mouth to be sewn shut?

Indeed. Why people seem to have problems understanding this? Either you are a mage or your sibling is in DA2. On that backround supporting tallis and/or letting her go with the scroll is one of the weirdest thing you could do actually. Shes a devout follover of qun and enforcer. What she would do to your mage character or his/hers sister according to qun?


Heck, even my rogue wanted to knife Cullen and his buddy when they came for Bethany. Just turn around, lock the door and charge them with bethanys and dogs help, then silenty disappear to lowtown and get some money from varric for running out of Kirkwall. Not a change.

Modifié par Ukki, 21 septembre 2012 - 02:45 .

[Cultist]

I can't unerstand why mage would help qunary at all, instead of strangling her in their cell.

[Shared]

Ive only got one person that Bioware failed miserably with reagarding this not beeing able to kill her, and thats Sister Petrice ( i think it was in DA2). After she uses you, tries to get you killed, and pisses you off massivly, you cant kill her (even though its 4v2 (if you can call an unarmed biatch a +1 in this case), your in an abandoned house in lowtown, and she gets away with an "i wont allow the opportunity" or something the like. That Bioware was just crappy work. Either make it plausible that you wont be able to kill her then (because seriously she deserved it, and Hawke certainly would have done it in this case), og let the player kill her. Its probably the easiest kill you could get in the entire game.

[Cimeas]

Her face is annoying (with some strange duck bill skin flab above her mouth that's hard to describe but incredibly off-putting), she is annoying and I want my character to be able to kill her annoying Qunari face. Sten I can respect, her I cannot.

[JamesStark]

Give us the option to kill all past companions in that case.

[TheJediSaint]

I'm just going to pop in here and say that I would like Tallis to show up in Dragon Age 3 simply because I enjoy the character. The fancy party on Prosper's estate was one of my favorite moments in the Dragon Age series. Actually, on that note, I'd like more fancy parties, too!

[Cultist]

JamesStark wrote...

Give us the option to kill all past companions in that case.

That'll be so awesome.

[Vovea]

Ah, Tallis. You either love her or hate her. Or think she's ok.

[Last Vizard]

Jilinna wrote...

Aww, poor Tallis. I liked her humor in MoTA. But to each there own of course.

It would of made sense for a Hawke to kill Tallis if they wished in MoTA but I don't think it makes sense for the new protagonist to. They wouldn't of known the events of MoTA unless they some how found out or unless we possibly met her again and can kill her based on some new event.

Anyways I vote no. Sorry she has my nose.

The new protagonist will be an inquisitor searching for spies of the new big bad, happens to find Talis who is a qun believing elf who is spying on humans... of course someone called "inquisitor" is going to kill an enemy spy!

Just because some people have puppy love for her doesn't mean she shouldn't die from a lore perspective.

[Cultist]

There's also a possability to blackmail those traitors into siding with Inquisitor(assuming we'll play as one), or getting information from them after threatening them to disclose their treachery.

[Eveangaline]

Frostbringer wrote...

I don't think Felicia did anything wrong with Tallis voice acting. Kill her if you must, but I sure won't.

I love Felicia, I'm a huge fan and I love the idea of her voicing a DA character. I just happen to hate the character she voiced. I really would have liked having the option to kill Tallis, even if I wouldn't have done it on my more saintly hawkes.

[DialupToaster]

Better Idea: Here is the scene, a male mage in a white robe is about to execute a templar who is under a paralysis spell, the spell ends and the templar is freed and punches the mage which knocks him onto the ground. The Templar tries to use the mage staff on the mage but then the staff explodes and a piece of the staff pierces and kills Tallis.

[Cultist]

and they all turn into Flemeth

[Hurbster]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Maybe, but I wouldn't enjoy it much. Not because I don't think the PC should be able to attempt to go down an anti-Qunari path, but because it'd just make MotA's ending seem even worse, IMO. Someone has to pick up Hawke's slack, rendering him an ineffectual hero even more then he already is -- which... would be saying something.

Now, as I've said, I don't wish Tallis dead nor do I hate her character. And given what Bioware did in MotA -- very badly, as I've said... oh, about 30 times now lol -- they obviously want her to be important for the imminent Qunari invasion they're planning, or at least strongly hinting at but will end up not doing just to mess with us.

Based on her general character arc, I'd say she's going to go Tal'Vashoth.

In which case, killing her for anything in MotA would be absurd, unless she was acting as a double agent.

Frankly, I wouldn't support the option to kill Tallis in DA3 simply because I don't know what Bioware has planned for her. Yet. For all I know, more information in the future may reveal something. Supposedly, there's another Qunari companion in DA3. If it's Tallis, then if I do play an anti-Qunari person -- which would be a first for me -- I wouldn't mind wiping her off the planet, simply to stay in character.

What I do support -- and want -- is just for Bioware to say "We dun' goofed on MotA's anti-Qunari ending". That's it.

Bioware did a dodgy ending again ? Say it ain't so !

[rager79]

Lol

I loved Tallis, and it was a good reminder to players that Qunari are followers of a religion, not a race.

Having an elf following the Qun was a great expansion, and if I had been able to play an elf in DA2, I would have totally converted. In fact, I'm surprised the Qunari didn't manage to convert all of Darktown and the Alienage.

The only one I wanted to be able to kill in the expansion was that weird scholar without a shirt. Seriously, where the heck did he get those abs as a scholar? Wasn't he meant to be studying dead races or something?

[MichaelStuart]

I agree we should have a option to kill Tallis, because I believe we should have the option to kill anyone.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Cultist wrote...

I can't unerstand why mage would help qunary at all, instead of strangling her in their cell.

Not all Qunari mages are Saarebas apparently.