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[Arppis]

David Gaider wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
Good gravy another one of these "LET'S KILL _____" threads?

Why are you guys so obsessed with killing fictional characters? Jeez.

I wouldn't worry about it. Chances are pretty slim that I'd put a character in the game solely because some psychopath on the forums demanded they be there in order to be murdered. Chances are far better, in fact, that such advocacy would entice me to include them and make them unkillable.

Actually, that's a lie. It wouldn't sway me, regardless. It's amusing they seem to think it might, however.

Nice!

[MerinTB]

David Gaider wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
Good gravy another one of these "LET'S KILL _____" threads?

Why are you guys so obsessed with killing fictional characters? Jeez.

I wouldn't worry about it. Chances are pretty slim that I'd put a character in the game solely because some psychopath on the forums demanded they be there in order to be murdered. Chances are far better, in fact, that such advocacy would entice me to include them and make them unkillable.

Actually, that's a lie. It wouldn't sway me, regardless. It's amusing they seem to think it might, however.

No, no, I think that should be your response.

Even if it means you shove more Isabela in my face... wait...

[Johnny20]

David Gaider wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
Good gravy another one of these "LET'S KILL _____" threads?

Why are you guys so obsessed with killing fictional characters? Jeez.

I wouldn't worry about it. Chances are pretty slim that I'd put a character in the game solely because some psychopath on the forums demanded they be there in order to be murdered. Chances are far better, in fact, that such advocacy would entice me to include them and make them unkillable.

Actually, that's a lie. It wouldn't sway me, regardless. It's amusing they seem to think it might, however.

Wow, lighten up a little. Don't take things so personally. While the OP wasn't very eloquent in his request, not all people like all characters. :/

[Nomadiac]

Johnny20 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
Good gravy another one of these "LET'S KILL _____" threads?

Why are you guys so obsessed with killing fictional characters? Jeez.

I wouldn't worry about it. Chances are pretty slim that I'd put a character in the game solely because some psychopath on the forums demanded they be there in order to be murdered. Chances are far better, in fact, that such advocacy would entice me to include them and make them unkillable.

Actually, that's a lie. It wouldn't sway me, regardless. It's amusing they seem to think it might, however.

Wow, lighten up a little. Don't take things so personally. While the OP wasn't very eloquent in his request, not all people like all characters. :/

Meaning that killing everyone you have a grudge against is a great idea. True?

[Johnny20]

Nomadiac wrote...

Johnny20 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
Good gravy another one of these "LET'S KILL _____" threads?

Why are you guys so obsessed with killing fictional characters? Jeez.

I wouldn't worry about it. Chances are pretty slim that I'd put a character in the game solely because some psychopath on the forums demanded they be there in order to be murdered. Chances are far better, in fact, that such advocacy would entice me to include them and make them unkillable.

Actually, that's a lie. It wouldn't sway me, regardless. It's amusing they seem to think it might, however.

Wow, lighten up a little. Don't take things so personally. While the OP wasn't very eloquent in his request, not all people like all characters. :/

Meaning that killing everyone you have a grudge against is a great idea. True?

Of course not. And for the record, I liked Talis.

[GPjessica73]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Why only Tallis? The option should be there to kill EVERYONE and their cat. I've always liked the ability to kill companions off if the need arises. Sometimes I killed Zevran before I recruited him because his accent annoyed me. xp

Hold on now, cats should be invincible <_<
I could never her Ser Pounce A Lot. His owner though... yeah, I do that a lot

[Am1vf]

David Gaider wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
Good gravy another one of these "LET'S KILL _____" threads?

Why are you guys so obsessed with killing fictional characters? Jeez.

I wouldn't worry about it. Chances are pretty slim that I'd put a character in the game solely because some psychopath on the forums demanded they be there in order to be murdered. Chances are far better, in fact, that such advocacy would entice me to include them and make them unkillable.

Actually, that's a lie. It wouldn't sway me, regardless. It's amusing they seem to think it might, however.

And this is why we love our Gaider so much.

[Zombie_Alexis]

Aw, poor Tallis. I actually liked her a lot. Plus, she has my nose and I want it back.

[Svanhildr]

I've never said that I want to kill everyone I don't like in games, but it just feels different with "celebrity" characters, especially with this character. Tallis wasn't a good character. The DLC ended so badly and no matter what did you couldn't stop her which pissed many off. You could clearly tell that she wore god mode armor, I also think one of the reasons we can't even scratch her is because she's Felicia Day and we can't hurt her now can we...? >.>

[Beerfish]

David Gaider wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
Good gravy another one of these "LET'S KILL _____" threads?

Why are you guys so obsessed with killing fictional characters? Jeez.

I wouldn't worry about it. Chances are pretty slim that I'd put a character in the game solely because some psychopath on the forums demanded they be there in order to be murdered. Chances are far better, in fact, that such advocacy would entice me to include them and make them unkillable.

Actually, that's a lie. It wouldn't sway me, regardless. It's amusing they seem to think it might, however.

David, there were MANY legit reasons for the player to want to kill Tallis.  I liked the character a lot and loved the way Felicia Day played her, her story arch was also pretty good but plain and simply she hoodwinked the player in a way that the player even with evidence, suspicions and a big worry about what damage she could do was stonewalled.  We were made to feel like a fool at the end and could do nothing about it in my opinion.

If her story progresses in the next game adn give some reasonable resolution fine but it is hardly some psychopath feeling that would make the player want to do away with her.

[WahookaTheGreat]

I don't like Tallis because she reminds me of the MotA. Good dlc with game breaking (for me) ending. My rude Hawke would have taken the scroll or died trying.

[Reidbynature]

I never played any of the DA2 DLC. Was Tallis really that bad?

Since people are asking to kill certain characters I vote for the ability to finish off Fenris for good this time. Not like if he turns on you in DA2 and he just disappears into thin air after the fight (I want to see a confirmed death that the story recognises).

[David Gaider]

Johnny20 wrote...
Wow, lighten up a little. Don't take things so personally. While the OP wasn't very eloquent in his request, not all people like all characters. :/

There's no reason to read into my tone. I actually think it's funny.

And, for the record, there have been people who have hated characters-- for one reason or another-- dating all the way back to Jaheira and Imoen. The fact that characters get some hate isn't a strike against them. I've long-maintained it's better than apathy, and I've never encountered a reason to change that opinion.

[upsettingshorts]

Brb selling Fenris to Danarius again and laughing about it. By the way, what kind of paltry some is 5g for Fenris?

[GGW KillerTiger]

Cultist wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...
1. So was Sten. Being a Qunari does not seem reason enough to want to kill someone.
2. Perhaps to you, but even so, "annoying" does not seem reason enough to want to kill someone. 
3. If an Inquisitor wants the list. We don't know if that might even be significant to the story within the game. Who can say if she still has the list, or if she won't have some reason to hand it over to someone? 

Again, Hawke's issue with Tallis, if there is one, will likely be different from that of the DA3 protagonist, if the DA3 protagonist even encounters the elf.

1. Sten is dead. because he was a qunari)
2. It is. And look - people already support her demise
3. If she have no list then we can use...means...to get names from her. Anyway, qunari spy deserves death by default.

I don't remember ever killin off Sten in my DA:O playthrough and he didn't show up in DA2 just all the enemies laballed Sten as the rank they are ..... So erm yea when did he die?

[CaptainBlackGold]

Personally, I like Ms. Day as an actress and have enjoyed all her work, includingTallis.

However, where I can somewhat agree with some posters is that MOTA removed player agency in allowing a dangerous spy from a hostile power to escape with vital information - and there was nothing my character could do about it. While I personally did not want to kill her, I could easily see why some characters would have done so - and I think it was a mistake to make her "plot proof."

I suspect that someone wanted to leave the option open to bringing her back in some future DLC or something so prevented what should have been, in game context, a reasonable action.

The same thing happened with Flemeth, Morrigan and Leliana and personally, I don't like it. If the writers set up a situation where someone ought to be killed, that person ought to die. If they want that character to play some important, future role, then create a believable reason why you can't kill them. I do not think the way Tallis was handled was believable.

And one final comment; please, do not put Ms. Day in the same category as that "person" in ME3. Felicia Day is a talented, professional actress with a solid resume of respectable acting credits. You may not have liked the character, but there was nothing wrong with her performance.

[Sylvianus]

I'm still pleased with Anders dead in my game to be honest. I hope in this case, Mr Gaider won't make him unkillable in the next game lol.

[Bfler]

Reidbynature wrote...

I never played any of the DA2 DLC. Was Tallis really that bad?

No, but many people don't like the real person and therefore the fictional char must be bad. 
In my opinion, she is actually quite funny.

[Svanhildr]

Each to their own. I didn't like her performance so don't think everyone think as you. Both were as bad IMO.

[upsettingshorts]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...[/list]I don't remember ever killin off Sten in my DA:O playthrough and he didn't show up in DA2 just all the enemies laballed Sten as the rank they are ..... So erm yea when did he die?

From Dragon Age wiki:

Sten can return to his homeland.

Sten returns to his homeland and is made a general tasked with crushing human resistance in the Qunari lands.

If Sten's approval rating is Friendly and the Warden found his sword, Sten returns to his homeland and when the Arishok asks him if he found any worthy warriors outside of Par Vollen, Sten answers that he met only one: The Warden. (This happens if the Warden sacrifices himself/herself).

You can discuss traveling with him if the Warden lives but there is no further commentary about Sten if you do not return his sword to him.

Sten possibly dies if he is left in the cage in Lothering.

Sten can be killed by the Warden after an argument when you first enter the village of Haven

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 18 septembre 2012 - 03:05 .

[berelinde]

Wanting to kill a character doesn't always have to be based on player dislike. Some perfectly likable characters have been killable (I had one Hawke that killed a rivaled Anders out of mercy, and he's probably my favorite BioWare character ever). It just has to work with their stories.

What I *don't* like is when characters could and should have been killable for story reasons, e.g. Hawke should have been given the chance to prevent Tallis from leaving with her list of names, and the character is spared.

It is true. I don't like Tallis for many, many reasons, but that has no bearing on whether I want her to be killable or not. When I don't like a character, I would prefer to never see them again.

[Apollo Starflare]

Milan92 wrote...

 People who always feel the need to kill a character are weird. 

Weird is one word for them, yeah. >.>

Tallis was a fun character and I thought Felicia Day did a good job bringing her to life - both her likable elements AND her annoying elements. Tallis was always meant to be a somewhat controversial character (Qunari) with the ability to irritate the player. The fact that she infuriated a large number of players is mostly just the writing and acting doing it's job. See: King Joffrey from GoT etc.

One thing I don't understand is the whole 'forced celeb appearance' argument. Sure Jessica Chobot raised an eyebrow, having had little to no previous experience, however Felicia Day is just another actress, to be annoyed at her playing a character in DA would be like getting annoyed at Claudia Black playing Morrigan. o_o

[upsettingshorts]

Well there's a difference between advocating an option to kill a character because they irritate you, and advocating an option to attempt to kill a character because that's what your Hawke or Warden would do.

Trying to off Morrigan by stabbing her at the Eluvian would be an example of the latter. Likewise, the fact Isabela escapes the Arishok's clutches - but hates Hawke, and with good reason - if you turn her over is another good example.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 18 septembre 2012 - 03:13 .